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    Kevin Martin has been pretty bad in recent weeks. still recovering from injury?

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    Brown is a better coach than JOB, but a couple years ago, how many fans would've wanted him here? How many fans around the league would've wanted him coaching their team? People thought he was washed up.

    To put this in more perspective, people thought he was washed up because of the debacle he had in New York. Guess what? That was one of the worst constructed rosters (put together by Isiah of course) in the league that he coached.

    So even one of the great coaches of all time couldn't get anything out of a horribly constructed roster, which tells you that in the NBA, it's way more about players and talent than coaches and systems.
    While I believe that is partially true, I can name about five fully talented, underachieving teams for every underachieving team with a great coach. I think coaching is very underrated in the NBA, especially by coaches themselves.

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    Charlotte needs to start winning on the road, before they can be taken this seriously. They did pick up nice wins on the road early this month in back-to-back games at Miami and Cleveland, but they were not competitive in their last two road games. Overall, they're only 3-17 on the road.

    Right now, they probably are strong enough at home to be a playoff team, but until they start showing more consistency on the road, they're not going to be successful in the playoffs.
    With their style of play - I expect them to play around .500 on the road the rest of the season. All their road losses lately have been to really good teams and they have been close.

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    While I believe that is partially true, I can name about five fully talented, underachieving teams for every underachieving team with a great coach. I think coaching is very underrated in the NBA, especially by coaches themselves.
    OK, take "underachieving" teams like the Wiz, T-Wolves, 76ers and the Bulls.

    They all made coaching changes within the past 1-2 years (as pretty much all their fans wanted to).

    How big an impact did those coaching changes make? If you were to ask any fan of those teams 1-2 years ago, they would tell you that Eddie Jordan, Randy Whittman, Mo Cheeks and Scott Skiles were horrible coaches and I'm sure some of them would be like this board with JOB and call each of them the worst coach in the history of basketball.

    So all those teams canned those coaches and got replacements. At this point in time, none of those coaches have appeared to make any kind of tangible difference.

    Kurt Rambis brought in the knowledge, experience and system that he learned from all those years as an assistant under the most successful coach in NBA history. That doesn't seem to have changed a thing for the "underachieving" T-Wolves. Phil Jackson's system and his top assistant from all those championship years with the Lakers doesn't appear to have gotten any better results than some stiff named Randy Whittman.

    Every single year in the league, fans of a bad team with a bad roster expect a new coach to solve their problems. And every year, some team's ownership/management grants the fans their wish and brings in a a new coach while sticking with the same players. Not surprisingly, they get the same results.

    It's not surprising teams do this, simply because it's easier to replace a coach than it is to replace a roster. That's understandable. But as it's shown over and over again year after year, thinking a coaching change is all of a sudden going to push a bad team over the hump is just putting the cart before the horse.

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    Tony Parker just when down, maybe another place where we can send Ford

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    Tony Parker just when down, maybe another place where we can send Ford
    is he gonna be out for long?

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    is he gonna be out for long?
    You have him on your FantasyTeam don't you?
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    You have him on your FantasyTeam don't you?
    nope don't play fantasy ball

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    Darren Collison filled in for an injured Chris Paul and had 18 assists against the Grizz.

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    Is that a typo in the box score or did Andre Miller really score 52 tonight?
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    It's legit. Of course his +/- was only +4, second lowest amongst Portland's starters, so his 52 points on 22-31 shooting wasn't that impressive.

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    Here's the intro for game 4 of the 1987 Eastern Conference second round game between the Bucks. Take a look at the video starting at 1:33.


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    The Grizz just beat the Lakers 95 to 93 and 40 points by kobe

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    Collision had another 14 dimes....

    that was a epic game the Lakz Griz, didn't watch just kept track on the scoreboard up and down, surprised the Lakers Lost, they seem to have the momentum...

    can anyone please post the top ten most likely trades on espn insider please...


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    has anybody seen this before? this is funny


    Brian Chambers Rambis Bonner Boner Heinsohn Walton ("Veal" or "Meat") Scalabrine, (born March 18, 1948 in a dumpster in California) is an active American All-Star Hall-Of-Fame professional basketball player currently with the Boston Lepers of the NBA. A 6 ft 9 in inbounder from USC, Scalabrine was drafted by the Jersey Nuts in 2001 as part of the NBA's Affirmative Action program
    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Brian_Scalabrine

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    Just watching the latest Pacs- Raps game... darn I Love Hibbert as a player but what is wrong with the crowd, wow, it's like a second rate CBA team, I had no idea...

    good game so far....


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    Just watching the latest Pacs- Raps game... darn I Love Hibbert as a player but what is wrong with the crowd, wow, it's like a second rate CBA team, I had no idea...

    good game so far....
    Yeah, it's gotten bad. I went to a few Rockets games and the crowds they get there are great for a team that is really overachieving. Kind of makes you sad seeing Conseco so deserted.

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    Here's the intro for game 4 of the 1987 Eastern Conference second round game between the Bucks. Take a look at the video starting at 1:33.




    If you want to get pissed off about the brawl again, watch this video.

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    Ahh I watched that Boston clip and err err suspected that could be the motive for the posting... I was like bleh....

    Interesting tho..

    I can see why TPTB are upgrading a few tickets and selling em for 5 bucks just to get the crowd up.....

    good time to get some quality seats if you like the current players...


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    THE CASE FOR THE PACERS


    Last Title: 1973 (ABA).

    Most Recent Devastating Loss: Finals Game 4 (2000) when Bird unconscionably pulled Rik Smits in OT, meaning Shaq didn't foul out (he had five for awhile), meaning the Lakers won in OT to go up 3-1, making the Pacers' loss inevitable. That was the year they FINALLY got over the Knicks and into the Finals and they blew a winnable series. Honorable mention: Game 7, Eastern Conference finals, 1998, gut-wrenching series with Reggie heroics outdone only (slightly) by Jordan/Pippen heroics.
    Rock Bottom: The brawl, obviously.

    Additional Thoughts: How long until the Pacers are good again? Ten years? If we're lucky.
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    brandon bass asking to be traded? i wonder what would entice the magic to move him.

    btw, check out what bass says about his role under svg

    http://www.nba.com/magic/news/denton...re_020510.html

    Magic coach Stan Van Gundy was somewhat of a trail blazer in how he brought a style of using a perimeter shooting power forward to Orlando three seasons ago. That formula has been mostly a success, winning 52 games in 2007-08, getting to the NBA Finals in 2008-09 and winning 33 times so far.

    Van Gundy’s style has been a boon for center Dwight Howard because playing a "stretch four" has kept opposing power forwards from double-teaming on him and have given him more room to operate inside.

    Rashard Lewis is a fixture on the team, and he led the NBA in 3-pointers made and attempted last season. Ryan Anderson, acquired in the Vince Carter trade with New Jersey last June, has been the surprise replacement at power forward because he plays a style similar to Lewis. Lewis ranks first on the Magic in 3-point attempts (241), while Anderson is fifth (159).

    But that’s not the style of Bass, a rugged 6-foot-8, 250-pound power forward with explosive leaping ability. He played big minutes early in the second when Lewis was suspended for the first 10 games, but since then he’s wondered about where he fits in on this Magic team.

    "(Mid-range shooters) isn’t one of coach’s favorites. He wants everybody under the goal or at the 3-point line," said Bass, the only player on the team to not attempt a 3-point shot this season. "Hopefully I can gain some favor with him and get some time. Until then I just have to keep working. I am working on the corner 3.

    "I know why they brought me in," he continued. "They told me a lot of things. I can do a variety of different things, but the thing that I don’t do is shoot the 3-pointer. I can space the floor and make plays from the 3-point line, but I don’t shoot it from there and that’s not a part of my game yet."
    wow, i'm sure bass would enjoy playing for obie [/sarcasm]

    and if the magic want a better "stretch four" than anderson, we have just the player
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    brandon bass asking to be traded? i wonder what would entice the magic to move him.

    btw, check out what bass says about his role under svg

    http://www.nba.com/magic/news/denton...re_020510.html



    wow, i'm sure bass would enjoy playing for obie [/sarcasm]

    and if the magic want a better "stretch four" than anderson, we have just the player
    I would make that trade today.:sign:

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    I saw today that the Bulls are still trying to move Tyrus Thomas. What's the knock on this guy, do teams see him as not having potential anymore? What's the deal, anyone know?

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    I saw today that the Bulls are still trying to move Tyrus Thomas. What's the knock on this guy, do teams see him as not having potential anymore? What's the deal, anyone know?
    He's an attitude problem. Not a hard worker and pouts if he doesn't get his way

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    I thought the guy was all 90% talent and 10% Basketball IQ....pass on Tyrus. Besides...my guess is that the Bulls will use him in some deal where both Tyrus and Amare or Bosh are involved in some S&T deal in the offseason.
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