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    the most die hard Tinsley fan in existence.

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    I'm not good with this stuff. I guess what I am wondering is that if we trade him and cover 3 million of his salary would that free up the other 4 million or so as cap space since the trade partner would be picking up that remaining portion of his contract.
    The $3mm has no impact on anybody's cap space. It is simply a cash payment.

    There are only two ways that we could clear all or a significant portion of Tinsley's salary:

    1. Tinsley could claim non-performance and void the contract (which is actually his remedy in the boiler plate player's contract). This is a virtual impossibility.

    2. The Pacers could find someone below the cap willing to trade a pick for Tinsley, or they could find somebody willing to trade a largely unguaranteed contract for Tinsley. This is a more plausible impossibility.

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    I hope the Arbitration makes Tinsley take the same buyout that Mcdyess took at the last trade deadline w/ Denver so he could go back to Det... (Nuggets only had to pay like 25-30% of his contract and his salary was completely removed from their books...)
    McDyess got a $6mm buyout on a $15.4mm contract (after 10% trade kicker), or about 40%, but the salary was not completely removed from their books. In fact, about $3.3mm remains on Denver's payroll for the upcoming year.

    A buyout always replaces the original contract as the cap amount. It is always pro-rated over the rest of the contract at the same proportions as the original contract.

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    Can't fool the MVP, can I? /drats.
    I'm sorry, but 13 times is my limit on Droopy McTinsleberry.

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    Here's the latest buyout -- Phoenix for Ben Wallace, saving almost 30%:

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...acebutout.html

    "The Suns completed a contract buyout Monday for Wallace, whom they acquired for such financial motivation in the Shaquille O'Neal trade in June. The Suns negotiated a $10 million buyout for a contract that would have paid him $14 million this season.

    The Suns could save $8 million as a result of the buyout, because next season's payroll projects to exceed a $69.9 million luxury-tax threshold, kicking in a dollar-for-dollar penalty for the excess."

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    A buyout always replaces the original contract as the cap amount. It is always pro-rated over the rest of the contract at the same proportions as the original contract.
    Think of it more as an early termination fee on your cell phone contract.

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    Looks like Suns just shed $4 million with Ben's contract buyout...

    Suns negotiated a $10 million buyout for a contract that would have paid him $14 million in 2009-10.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar..._ben_wallace/#

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    I wish TPTB could work something out with Tinsley to free up enough money for us to go after Sessions or Jack.
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