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    Default Hungry Hungry Hibbert + Psycho T= summer league studs

    I decided is Jones gets half the board, Summer league MVP should get a thread. It may be summer league, however our former players never dominated like this.

    http://www.nba.com/magic/news/summerleaguescoop_09.html

    By Josh Cohen
    It may not be as memorable as earning Most Valuable Player in the NBA’s regular season. But, claiming the tribute in the summer league may be just as remarkable.

    No, superstars like LeBron James and Kobe Bryant weren’t in Orlando to claim the prize. Roy Hibbert, however, who averaged 20.2 points and nine rebounds during the week, was.

    The former Georgetown standout, who guided the Indiana Pacers to a perfect 5-0 record, shot a blistering 63 percent from the field and, alongside fellow big man Tyler Hansbrough, was relentless in the paint as he was named the unofficial 2009 Summer League Scoop MVP.

    Hibbert managed to get to the free throw line 32 times, burying 24 of them. He also played unremitting defense, denying many shot attempts.

    Despite his outstanding effort, nevertheless, Hibbert realizes this is just one step closer to where he ultimately wants to be.

    "I give myself a B-," he said. "I still have some things to work on."

    If Hibbert can transport his summer performance into the regular season, the Pacers will potentially have a very successful season in the Eastern Conference. Head coach Jim O'Brien must be feeling optimistic.
    THE ALL SUMMER LEAGUE TEAM
    By Dan Savage
    You could make the argument that getting named to the 2009 Orlando Pro All-Summer League Team is more important than an All-Star nod – you might not win it, but there's a debate to be made.

    After all, those phenomenal athletes who get a berth to play among the NBA's best usually have a long-term contract in place and their financial situation set.

    On the other hand, for the young talents who played in Orlando this past week, making a positive impression on countless coaches, general managers and scouts may have gone a long way in helping them secure a future spot on an NBA roster and permanent place in the league.

    According to the annual judges (Melanie Curtsinger and Jason Wallace) here are the emerging stars that shined the brightest this week:

    First team: G Russell Westbrook, OKC; G James Harden, OKC; F Tyler Hansbrough, IND; F Ryan Anderson, ORL; C Roy Hibbert, IND

    Second team: G J.R. Giddens, BOS; G/F Kasib Powell, ORL; F Nick Fazekas, BOS; F D.J. White, OKC; C Marreese Speights, NJ/PHI

    Disagree with a pick? Send your selections here.

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    Its good to know someone at least thought Hibbs was worthy of MVP. People have been giving him credit and praise all week and commented on him being one of the top performers in this league. But whenever it came to MVP talk it was always about Westbrook or Anderson or even Harden. Don't want to take anything away from any of those three guys who were excellent this week. And I'm also not debating about who is going to have the better careers. Its not about that. Its about this week. And Hibbert being arguably the best player on the best team (undefeated team I might add) deserved more MVP consideration from the sports writers and bloggers covering the event IMO.

    Westbrook is an outstanding talent but it was as if some wanted to hand the unofficial title over to him before one game was played. To be fair a great argument can be made that he was MVP. But if folks want to take Hibbert down a peg for what they see as too low a rebound average this past week, then Westbrook can be taken down a peg himself for his high number of turnovers.

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    Not a bad selection at all. I am not sure why some people try to minimalism summer league sometimes. Yes, it obviously is not the same as NBA basketball, but I am excited to see Pacers players play well whenever they suite up. Congrats to Roy and Tyler.

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    Roy Hibbert ........... played unremitting defense, denying many shot attempts.
    Did I read that right ??

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    Did I read that right ??
    it was cut and paste, so i guess so. I would have used unrelenting, but to each their own.

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...710dentonnotes

    Hansbrough aims to prove he belongs

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    ORLANDO -- The mere questions about the questions surrounding Tyler Hansbrough's NBA readiness often result in a dismissive eye roll, a disgusted huff or a cold glare.

    Compiling one of the most decorated résumés in college basketball history did little to stop many from wondering whether or not the high-energy power forward from the University of North Carolina could make it in the NBA. And assuredly a stellar performance in this week's Orlando Pro Summer League won't dismiss the popular opinion that Hansbrough is about to fall flat on his face at basketball's highest level.
    Tired of all those questions and doubts, Hansbrough has basically given up the fight of trying to prove himself to others -- and he's usually not one to back down from a fight.
    "I can probably score 30 points in an NBA game and someone will still question whether I can make it in this league or not,'' Hansbrough huffed. "But I'm really not out to satisfy other people.''
    With all eyes on how he would fare against players with some NBA experience and other prized rookies, Hansbrough came up big this week. Not only did he lead the Indiana Pacers to the first-ever 5-0 record in the four-year history of the Orlando Summer League, he did it while averaging 18.2 points and 5.6 rebounds.
    Pacers coach Jim O'Brien, the only head coach to work the sidelines during the camp, hoped that the performance would finally clear up some of the questions about Hansbrough's talents.
    "It's borderline ridiculous," O'Brien said of the questions about Hansbrough's skills. "He's an energy guy who is going to be there 82 times a year, every time that he takes the floor. I'll take that any day."
    Hansbrough left UNC as a four-time All-American and the all-time leading scorer of the Atlantic Coast Conference. He won national player of the year honors as a junior and a national championship as a senior.
    And still, he fell to the 13th pick in the NBA draft, where the Pacers happily snagged him. Gushed O'Brien: "We coveted him all along, we kept our fingers crossed that he'd be there for us and we couldn't be happier with him.''
    In his first summer-league game as a pro, Hansbrough had to be separated from Philadelphia's Marreese Speights, who trash-talked him after the two were tangled up under the boards. But he stayed in attack mode and scored 17 points. His aggressiveness on the low block, combined with his array of pump fakes and ability to get off shots from all angles, helped him get to the free throw line 48 times, where he made 40.
    Of the incident with Speights, Hansbrough said: "I guess that's the way they approach rookies in this league, but I'm not going to back down. I'm going to keep playing my game, playing the way I play. I think [Speights] was just trying to get into my head, and that's OK.''
    Hansbrough does have one especially high-profile backer in Pacers president/general manager Larry Bird. The legendary Hall of Famer was a fixture courtside in Orlando all week, and hasn't hesitated to offer up encouragement to his prized rookie. In Bird's eyes, he sees Hansbrough as a player in the mold of Dave Cowens, who made it to the Hall of Fame by combining his gangly athleticism with a bit of grit and plenty of hustle and muscle.
    "I really think he's going to be all right,'' Bird said briefly earlier this week.
    Hansbrough admitted that it's downright surreal taking advice from a player the caliber of Bird. He's promised Larry Legend he will work to make himself the best player he can be, the questions be darned.
    "His advice, it's big,'' Hansbrough said of listening to Bird. "If you are going to listen to anybody you are going to listen to a legend. If you're not going to listen to him then you probably don't belong on a basketball court.''




    ALL-LEAGUE TEAMS: Here are the all-league teams, as picked by Magic staffers Jason Wallace and Melanie Curtsinger:
    First team: Oklahoma City's Westbrook and James Harden (14.8 ppg, 53.2 percent shooting); Indiana's Roy Hibbert (20.2 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.8 bpg) and Hansbrough (18.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 41 of 48 free throws); Orlando's Anderson.
    Second team: Philadelphia's Marreese Speights (14.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg); Boston's J.R. Giddens (11.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg) and Nick Fazekas (13.4 ppg, 6.2 rpg); Orlando's Kasib Powell (14.8 ppg, 52.9 percent 3-point shooting); Oklahoma City's D.J. White (13.5 ppg, 56.1 percent shooting).
    (Note: Hibbert was easily the most improved player from last summer to this one. Better conditioning and added strength made the 7-foot-3 center a force inside -- against summer league competition, at least.)

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    (Note: Hibbert was easily the most improved player from last summer to this one. Better conditioning and added strength made the 7-foot-3 center a force inside -- against summer league competition, at least.)
    Kinda easy for Hibbs to be better than last summer considering he scored zero points, grabbed zero rebounds and played zero minutes at this event last year. Why do folks keep making this mistake?

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    Hansbrough said: "I guess that's the way they approach rookies in this league, but I'm not going to back down. I'm going to keep playing my game, playing the way I play. I think [Speights] was just trying to get into my head, and that's OK.''

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    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/07/10/orlando.summer.hibbert/index.html


    Pacers' Hibbert growing under tutelage of Bird

    By Greg Auman, for NBA.com
    Posted Jul 10 2009 5:29PM
    Maitland, Fla. -- With no fans or public-address announcer in the RDV Sportsplex this week, the most entertaining commentary during Pacers games in the NBA Summer League has come from the familiar voice of Indiana president Larry Bird.

    Bird, seated near press row in a polo shirt and shorts, has been impressed with Pacers rookie Tyler Hansbrough, but has been most vocal about second-year center Roy Hibbert, whose strong play could be key to the Pacers' hopes of returning to the playoffs next season.

    "Roy's one of the hardest workers we have, and any time you put the time in, you're going to get better," Bird said. "There's a lot of things he has to get better with -- his strength, his balance -- but if he continues to do the things he's been doing, he's going to be a lot better."

    Hibbert finished a solid week Friday with 16 points, 11 rebounds and three blocks as the Pacers beat Orlando to finish as the league's only unbeaten team at 5-0. Hibbert said he'd give himself a "B-minus" for the week, but said the consistent play will give him some personal momentum for the rest of the summer.

    "I have some things to work on, my quickness and guarding smaller players," the 7-foot-2, 270-pound center said. "What I want to take from this, myself personally, was some confidence in my abilities. I'm really happy with my performance."

    It's clear this week that the addition of Hansbrough has energized Hibbert -- the two had played each other in college, but didn't know each other well until the past week. It was Hibbert's Georgetown team who knocked Hansbrough and top-seeded North Carolina out in an NCAA regional final in 2007, despite Hansbrough going for 26 points. Now on the same team, they both seemed to benefit from the other's presence down low.

    "I told him he's going to like playing with me," Hibbert said. "I'm a passing big. I like to pass the ball, and he likes to pass as well. I think we mesh well together. I can't wait for him to go out there and show people what he can do."

    Hibbert had a quiet rookie season in Indiana after being taken last summer with the 17th pick out of Georgetown. He started 42 games, but averaged only 14 minutes and 7.4 points per game. The center averaged just 3.5 rebounds, a mark that humbly ranked 20th among NBA rookies. His only double-double came in the second week of the season.

    In Orlando, Hibbert showed more aggressiveness on both ends of the court, and while Indiana returns the league's No. 2 rebounder in veteran Troy Murphy and adds Hansbrough to the mix, Hibbert has helped his chances at more playing time by getting in better shape.

    "I wouldn't have been able to play 31 minutes last year," he said. "I'm running a lot, getting on the treadmill, going up the ramp at the arena, trying to get in the best shape I can. You may not see it, but I've put on a little more muscle."

    Despite the year of NBA experience, Hibbert, 22, is actually a year younger than Hansbrough, and the young frontcourt is a big reason for optimism in Indiana.

    "We've been meshing really well," Hibbert said. "Last year, when I tried to go to the offensive boards, two or three people would box me out. Not that I have him there, they're going to have a tough time boxing both of us out. When you have two guys who can really score in the post, it can ease a lot of things up."
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    God I love these young guys we have.

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    Ok. They've convinced me. One summer league is enough. Go ahead and trade Murphy, Tinsley and Ford to Houston for Tmac and Landry and lets get this show on the road.

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    Wha???????

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    I agree. Im loving what Im hearing and seeing. We are supposed to be rebuilding, so lets rebuild.

    Trade Murphy, Tins and Ford for Tmac and Landry. That would officially get us out of financial hell-especially for 2010-11. And you would have Tmacs huge expiring that would provide any number of options over the next 7 months.

    It would eliminate some of the vets that will take time away from the young guys and thus hamper their development. Re-sign Jack and lets get this rebuilding show in high gear.

    Hibbert, Handsbro, Foster, Landry, McRoberts are your bigs and maybe add Croshere to the mix.

    Granger, Rush, Dunleavy, Jones, and Tmac on the wing

    Jack, Diener, and Price at the point.

    And lets get to developing what we got so we can see what we might need to add to complement.

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    Ok. They've convinced me. One summer league is enough. Go ahead and trade Murphy, Tinsley and Ford to Houston for Tmac and Landry and lets get this show on the road.
    I'd do that trade in a heartbeat, but Houston wouldn't.
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    I've been thinking about just Murphy & Ford for McGrady ... if he's healthy. If we wanted to play big, Rush (and Dun, eventually) would back TMac & Granger up. If we wanna play small (e.g., against Orlando), TMac'd play 3 and Danny would slide to 4. Houston might like it because it saves them money while giving them two quality, complementary pieces for when Yao returns.

    The worst part of the trade would be the extra $3.8 mil we'd be taking on, but it'd allow us to avoid next year's numbers crunch altogether ... and if we were to sign Jack to just the qualifying offer AND if we win a favorable outcome from the Tinsley arbitration, we might avoid any tax this year, too. Sometimes less is more!

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    I've been thinking about just Murphy & Ford for McGrady ... if he's healthy. If we wanted to play big, Rush (and Dun, eventually) would back TMac & Granger up. If we wanna play small (e.g., against Orlando), TMac'd play 3 and Danny would slide to 4. Houston might like it because it saves them money while giving them two quality, complementary pieces for when Yao returns.

    The worst part of the trade would be the extra $3.8 mil we'd be taking on, but it'd allow us to avoid next year's numbers crunch altogether ... and if we were to sign Jack to just the qualifying offer AND if we win a favorable outcome from the Tinsley arbitration, we might avoid any tax this year, too. Sometimes less is more!
    The best thing about this trade would be the opportunities it opens for some of our other backup PF's to get minutes. The benefit financially next year is just the gravy.

    BTW, McBob was ready for a lot more minutes last year. While Murphy is an effective 3 pt shooter, we already have shooters at both guard positions...and our SF launched more than anyone in the league. This team needs bigs with more toughness who want to mix it up...both on offense and defense. Hans and McBob are opposite sides of that coin...and could be a lethal combination. The only concern I would have is rebounding...but with Foster getting 25 minutes, we should be ok. I suspect that McBob is going to be sufficient in that category too.

    As for TJ, ship the dude out if you can sign Jack and think Price can be a solid backup. Easy decision in that case.

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    I'm not interested in trading away Ford until Jack has been signed. I don't want McGrady unless I know the PG situation has been solidified. I'd prefer the Pacers trade for a top PG rather than another wing player. I feel pretty good about Granger, Rush, and Jones on the wing. Eventually Dunleavy should return there as well. I'm not so convinced with Ford (is he an ideal fit for this team?), Diener, and Price, who I'm not 100% sure will make the team.

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    This isn't the trade proposal forum.
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    This isn't the trade proposal forum.
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    This trade is going to make Hibbert even hungrier...

    I think people are just getting a little excited about the possibilities. I do wonder how much better Hibbert really is now. It's hard to measure how good Tyler really is, without knowing if Hibbert has made a significant improvement. Yes, I understand he's been working on endurance and strength...but has it translated to anything tangible? Can anyone articulate a significant improvement in Hibbert's game? I only got to see one SL game...

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    Ok. They've convinced me. One summer league is enough. Go ahead and trade Murphy, Tinsley and Ford to Houston for Tmac and Landry and lets get this show on the road.
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    BlueNGold, the most obvious improvement was he was able to play about 30 minutes every game and not look dead tired.

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    BlueNGold, the most obvious improvement was he was able to play about 30 minutes every game and not look dead tired.
    And fouling half as often. But true, conditioning was pretty huge.

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