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    Default Updating Count's Salary Cap Figures

    I wasn't going to do this anymore since we have Count doing it, and doing it better, but since I wanted to look at our salaries now . . .

    Player Option This means the play can opt out of the remainer of his contract.

    Team Option This means the team can cancel the rest of the contract.

    Qualifying Offer Teams have to make an offer to a player to keep their rights. If a player signs the offer he will become an unrestricted free agent the next season. Usually a new contract is signed starting at higher money than the qualifying offer.


    Player
    2009/10
    2010/11
    2011/12
    2012/13
    2013/14
    Danny Granger
    $9,930,500
    $10,973,202
    $12,015,904
    $13,058,606
    $14,021,788
    Tyler Hansbrough
    $1,859,160
    $1,998,600
    $2,138,040
    $3,055,259
    $4,225,423
    Dahntay Jones
    $2,455,357
    $2,651,785
    $2,848,214
    $3,044,642

    Brandon Rush
    $1,934,160
    $2,069,040
    $2,956,658
    $4,089,058

    Roy Hibbert
    $1,575,360
    $1,685,280
    $2,588,590
    $3,655,089

    Troy Murphy
    $11,047,619
    $11,968,253



    Mike Dunleavy
    $9,780,992
    $10,561,984



    TJ Ford
    $8,500,000
    $8,500,000



    Jamaal Tinsley
    $7,200,000
    $7,500,000



    Jeff Foster
    $6,077,500
    $6,655,000



    Travis Diener
    $1,740,000




    Totals Under Contract
    $62,100,648
    $64,563,144
    $22,547,406
    $26,902,654
    $18,247,211












    Speculation Below
    Jarrett Jack
    $3,500,000
    $3,867,500
    $4,235,000
    $4,602,500

    Josh McRoberts
    $1,000,497
    $1,105,550
    $1,206,102
    $1,306,656

    AJ Price
    $457,588
    $505,635
    $553,682
    $601,729


    $67,058,733
    $70,041,829
    $28,542,190
    $33,413,539







    Luxury Tax
    $69,920,000





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    Default Re: Updating Count's Salary Cap Figures

    Some things got messed up when I posted my graph, and some things didn't carry over, so I redid them as best as I could. Probably why Count published his as an image.

    It was a neat little chart.

    One of the things I left out when I redid it was that Jones has a player option his 4th year.

    As for the speculation, I carried out the players contracts four years just as a convenience.
    Last edited by Will Galen; 07-09-2009 at 05:40 AM.

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    Qualifying Offer Teams have to make an offer to a player to keep their rights. If a player signs the offer he will become an unrestricted free agent the next season. Usually a new contract is signed starting at higher money than the qualifying offer.


    When player isn't offered a qualifying offer, they b/c a UFA(Morris Almond & Charlie V.), but if a team OFFERS the player a qualifying offer he becomes a RFA and not a UFA with the team being able to match any other team's offer.

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    When player isn't offered a qualifying offer, they b/c a UFA(Morris Almond & Charlie V.), but if a team OFFERS the player a qualifying offer he becomes a RFA and not a UFA with the team being able to match any other team's offer.
    When a player isn't offered a qualifying offer, they become an unrestricted free agent like our own Daniels, Rasho, Graham, and Maceo. Better example's don't you think?

    As for the rest I think you might confuse some people since you were adding to my post and not correcting it.

    To clarify, if a player is offered a qualifying offer and signs it he will be unrestricted the next season as I said. If he doesn't sign an offer, then it's like you said, he becomes a restricted free agent with the team being able to match any other team's offer and keep him.

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    When a player isn't offered a qualifying offer, they become an unrestricted free agent like our own Daniels, Rasho, Graham, and Maceo. Better example's don't you think?

    As for the rest I think you might confuse some people since you were adding to my post and not correcting it.

    To clarify, if a player is offered a qualifying offer and signs it he will be unrestricted the next season as I said. If he doesn't sign an offer, then it's like you said, he becomes a restricted free agent with the team being able to match any other team's offer and keep him.






    A qualiying offer is at the end of a rookie contract. Milwaukee didn't pickup Charlie V a qualifying offer which allowed him to become a UFA, but did with Ramon Sessions to make him a RFA in order to match any teams offer to him. Sessions DIDN'T become a UFA by having his qualifying offer picked up by the Bucks.

    Rasho and Baston are off their rookie contracts and became UFA's when the Pacers didn't resign them. They don't get qualifying offers. Neither did Foster, but he was given an extension of his contract since he isn't on a rookie contract in order to keep him from being a UFA.

    Another example is Ike's team didn't pick up his qualifying offer on his rookie contract by his current team, and hence he has become a UFA.


    I see what you are saying, offering and signing a qualifying offer is 2 different things. A better example is when Gordon and the Bulls last year. He signed the the 1 year qualifying offer of 5-6 mil to become a UFA. B/c he did, Detroit has able to sign him as a UFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Tyme View Post
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    A qualiying offer is at the end of a rookie contract. Milwaukee didn't pickup Charlie V a qualifying offer which allowed him to become a UFA, but did with Ramon Sessions to make him a RFA in order to match any teams offer to him. Sessions DIDN'T become a UFA by having his qualifying offer picked up by the Bucks.

    Rasho and Baston are off their rookie contracts and became UFA's when the Pacers didn't resign them. They don't get qualifying offers. Neither did Foster, but he was given an extension of his contract since he isn't on a rookie contract in order to keep him from being a UFA.

    Another example is Ike's team didn't pick up his qualifying offer on his rookie contract by his current team, and hence he has become a UFA.


    I see what you are saying, offering and signing a qualifying offer is 2 different things. A better example is when Gordon and the Bulls last year. He signed the the 1 year qualifying offer of 5-6 mil to become a UFA. B/c he did, Detroit has able to sign him as a UFA.
    There is still the small thing of free agent holds or cap holds to worry about. We got rid of those when we renounced rights to Rasho and the like, but they still have to be there.

    But Justin is right on the part of Qualifying Offers.

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    This makes it paifully obvious that both Rush and Hibbert will be in a very strong position to both perform and maximize their next deal.
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