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The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

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  • The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

    The PD NBA Draft:

    1. Blake Griffin --------- Los Angeles
    2. Ricky Rubio ---------- Memphis
    3. Hasheem Thabeet --- Oklahoma City
    4. Brandon Jennings ---- Sacramento
    5. Jordon Hill ----------- Washington
    6. James Harden -------- Minnesota
    7. Tyreke Evans -------- Golden State
    8. Stephen Curry ------- New York
    9. DeMar DeRozan ------ Toronto
    10. Jrue Holiday --------- Milwaukee
    11. Earl Clark ----------- New Jersey
    12. Gerald Henderson --- Charlotte

    Who does Indiana take 13th?

    Here is their current roster, draft history & a few options for the pick.

    I will be adding more options as the draft gets past the first couple selections.

    Write in votes will be an option for the length of the draft.

    Here's the current Pacers roster:

    Center
    Roy Hibbert
    Jeff Foster
    Rasho Nesterovic

    Power Forward
    Troy Murphy
    Josh McRoberts
    Maceo Baston

    Small Forward
    Danny Granger
    Mike Dunleavy Jr.
    Stephen Graham

    Shooting Guard
    Brandon Rush
    Marquis Daniels

    Point Guard
    Jarrett Jack
    TJ Ford
    Travis Diener

    Recent Pacer Draft History:

    2008: Jerryd Bayless
    2007: No Pick

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    Ty Lawson

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ty-la...-profile-42337

    College: North Carolina
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PG
    Height: 5’11”
    Weight: 195bs

    Accolades: Honorable Mention All-ACC (08), First Team ACC All-Tournament Team (07), ACC All-Freshman Team (07), Third Team CHN All-Freshman Team (07), First Team USA Today All-American – high school (06), McDonald’s All-American – high school (06), First Team Parade All-American – high school (06), MVP World Juniors Tournament (05).

    Scouting Report: An undersized, lightning quick point guard.

    Strengths: Blazing speed – will normally be the fastest guy on the floor. Can beat the other team up the floor on fast breaks or beat his man off the dribble in the half court. Excellent passer and distributor of the ball. Takes very good care of the basketball – had a 2.57 assist to turnover ratio his freshman year and 2.36 his sophomore year. Great court vision. Very poised despite his lack of experience. Very strong build. Shoots for an extremely high percentage for a point guard – 50% his freshman year, 51.5% this past year. Decent rebounder for a sub-six footer. Gets his share of steals.

    Weaknesses: Very short for the NBA. Can hit the three but will need to hit it more consistently in the NBA. Still young and inexperienced for a point guard – only averaged about 25 minutes a game both years in college and missed games his sophomore year due to injury.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Mid first round to early second round pick.

    Consensus: Lawson’s been a dynamic player at every level he has competed at so far and his poise, court vision and speed will translate well to the NBA. However the learning curve in the NBA for an undersized, inexperienced point guard is a steep one.

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    Jonny Flynn

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/jonny...profile-166837

    College: Syracuse
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PG
    Height: 6’0”
    Weight: 186lbs

    Accolades: All-NCAA South Region (09), Third Team All-American - CHN (09), Honorable Mention All-American - AP (09), Second Team All-Big East (09), Big East Tournament MVP (09), Big East All-Tournament Team (09), Big East co-Rookie of the Year (08), Big East All-Rookie Team (08), Honorable Mention All-Big East (08), Third Team All-Freshman - CHN (08), USA U-19 National Team (07), Mr. Basketball - New York - high school (07), Second Team All-American - Parade - high school (07), McDonald’s All-American - high school (07), USA U-19 National Team (06).

    Scouting Report: An explosive, fast, scoring point guard.

    Strengths: Great athlete. Explosive. Fast. Strong build. Good leaper. Very good ball-handler. Good conditioning - played huge minutes in college. Big time scorer capable of explosive outbursts. Can score on his own and also set up teammates. Can get to the rim at will and finish strong. Good playmaker. Good body control. Good and drawing fouls and converting at the line. Great at slashing and kicking the ball out to open teammates.

    Weaknesses: Questionable shot selection. Takes too many three-pointers. Undersized for the NBA. Turns the ball over too often. Doesn’t shoot for a good % for a guard (especially from long range). Wear and tear from playing huge minutes in college? Needs to improve his decision-making. Still young for a point guard. Played almost exclusively zone defense in college - can he defend NBA point guards one-on-one?

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Mid first round pick.

    Consensus: Jonny Flynn has the makings to be a starting NBA point guard for a long time. While he isn’t quite ready yet - his outside shot and decision-making need work - the potential is clearly there.

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    DeJuan Blair

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/dejua...profile-165713

    College: Pittsburgh
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PF
    Height: 6’7”
    Weight: 265lbs

    Accolades: Honorable Mention Freshman All-American - CHN (08), Big East co-Rookie of the Year (08), Big East All-Rookie Team (08), Honorable Mention All-Big East (08), Pennsylvania State Player of the Year - AP - high school (07).

    Scouting Report: A beast in the paint.

    Strengths: Huge wingspan - 7’2”. Very physical and strong player. Clears a lot of space out in the paint, both on offense and defense. Uses his strength and long arms to score over taller defenders. Good hook shot. Fantastic rebounder - snatches rebounds with two hands. Overpowers defenders in the post. Variety of low-post moves with both hands. Very good footwork. Capable of dominating a game.

    Weaknesses: Very undersized for the post in the NBA. Not much of a leaper. Needs a lot of work on defense. Doesn’t block nearly enough shots for a player with his wingspan. Can get into foul trouble. Very inconsistent.

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Mid to late first round pick.

    Consensus: DeJuan Blair was proven to be one of the most dominant players in college this year. However, his lack of athleticism and height are big time negatives in terms of the NBA. Still, undersized power forwards are making a bit of a comeback in the NBA nowadays, so he probably will stick around the League.

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    Terrence Williams

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/terre...profile-163583

    College: Louisville
    Class: Senior
    Position: SG/SF
    Height: 6’6”
    Weight: 215lbs

    Accolades: Second Team All-Big East (08), Second Team All-Big East (07), Big East All-Tournament Team (07).

    Scouting Report: An experienced, versatile, athletic wing player.

    Strengths: Very athletic. Great body - NBA physique. Can create off the dribble for himself or for teammates. Good shooting technique - lots of elevation. Versatile player - can play out on the wing or in the post. Can score with his back to the basket. Has three-point range on his jumper. Exceptional rebounder for his position. Fantastic set-up man - racks up tons of assists. Experienced - played big minutes all four years in college.

    Weaknesses: Horrible shooter - horrendous shooting % from the field, the charity stripe and the three-point line. Never been a big-time scorer in college. Inconsistent.

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Mid to late second round pick.

    Consensus: Terrence Williams has a nice skills package and physical attributes that will serve him well in the NBA. However, until he proves he can knock down shots consistently he projects to be nothing more than a role player at best.

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    James Johnson

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/james...profile-165716

    College: Wake Forest
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PF/SF
    Height: 6’9”
    Weight: 245lbs

    Accolades: Third Team All-ACC (08), ACC All-Freshman Team (08), Honorable Mention All-Freshman Team - CHN (08).

    Scouting Report: A versatile, athletic combo forward.

    Strengths: Very athletic, strong & tough - practiced martial arts his whole life. Versatile - can play multiple positions. Able to take his man off the dribble. Can hit the face-up jumper. Able to absorb contact and still score. Good wingspan. Very good size for the NBA. Explosive leaper. Good shot blocker. Gets plenty of steals.

    Weaknesses: Inconsistent. Foul prone. Needs to work on his post moves. Still inexperienced - hasn’t been playing organized basketball for very long. Not good at drawing fouls. His game didn’t progress much from his freshman to sophomore seasons. Is already 22-years-old.

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Late first round pick.

    Consensus: No doubt James Johnson has a future in the NBA. His combination of skills and size are rare, but the fact that he is already 22-years-old and hasn’t shown great improvements over his two years in college are red flags.

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    Jeff Teague

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/jeff-...profile-165007

    College: Wake Forest
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PG/SG
    Height: 6’2”
    Weight: 180lbs

    Accolades: ACC All-Freshman Team (08).

    Scouting Report: One of the breakout stars of the 08/09 college season.

    Strengths: Explosive off the dribble - can get by his man, split double teams. Good at getting shot off over defenders off the dribble (floaters, acrobatic shots). Aggressive - always looking to attack on offense and defense. Killer crossover. Very quick hands on defense - gets tons of steals. Explosive scorer. Good body control. Extremely fast player. Great three-point shooter. Good experience - played two years of big minutes in the ACC

    Weaknesses: Small for the NBA - needs to get bigger/stronger. Isn’t a true point guard - spends a lot of his time at the shooting guard spot. Will be too small for the off guard position in the NBA. Needs the ball to be effective. Forces passes. Really needs to cut down on turnovers - has as many turnovers as assists for his career. Is a year older than most other sophomores.

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Lottery pick.

    Consensus: Jeff Teague probably has the most improved draft stock among this year’s prospects. However, he really could use another year in college to prove he can run the point in the NBA.

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    Tyler Hansbrough

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/story...ansbrough40616

    College: North Carolina
    Class: Senior
    Position: PF
    Height: 6”9”
    Weight: 250lbs

    Accolades: National Player of the Year - multiple sources (08), First Team All-American - multiple sources (08), ACC Player of the Year (08), ACC Tournament MVP (08), NCAA East Regional Most Outstanding Player (08), NCAA All-East Regional Team (08), ACC Male Athlete of the Year (08), First Team All-ACC (08), First Team All-American - multiple sources (07), Second Team All-American - multiple sources (07), First Team All-ACC (07), NCAA All-East Regional Team (07), First Team All-American – multiple sources (06), Third Team All-American – multiple sources (06), National Freshman of the Year – multiple sources (06), ACC Rookie of the Year (06), First Team All-ACC (06), Gatorade Player of the Year – Missouri – high school (05), McDonald’s All-American – high school (05), Parade All-American – high school (05).

    Scouting Report: Great low post scorer and rebounder who is extremely intense.

    Strengths: Very intense competitor – nickname is “Psycho T”. Big time scorer in a big time conference – the ACC. Very good rebounder. Very physically strong down low – a man among boys. Well polished game and mature player. Gets to the free throw line regularly (about eight times per game for his college career thus far) and shoots for a good percentage while at the line (about 73%). Plays for one of the top colleges for producing NBA talent. Very experienced. Steadily improving outside shot - worked very hard on his three-point shooting this past off-season.

    Weaknesses: Not very athletic – not super quick and not a great leaper. May have trouble defending the bigger, more athletic power forwards that the NBA possesses. May be a little short for the power forward spot in the NBA – may only be 6’8”. Age - will be 24-years-old at the start of next NBA season.

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Late first round pick.

    Consensus: Hansbrough’s intensity and effort will definitely transfer over to the NBA with him. However, he needs to get quicker and more athletic (if that is even possible) to become as dominant in the NBA as he is in college.

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    Austin Daye

    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/austi...profile-165711

    College: Gonzaga
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: SF/PF
    Height: 6’11”
    Weight: 200lbs

    Accolades: Honorable Mention All-WCC (08), WCC All-Freshman Team (08), First Team High-Major All-Freshman - CHN (08).

    Scouting Report: A long, athletic small forward with great skills.

    Strengths: Highly skilled player. Tremendous height for a small forward. Long arms. Great shot blocker. Nice looking jump shot. Very good three-point shooter. Can put the ball on the floor. Very athletic for his size. Great rebounder for a small forward. Good genes - dad played in the NBA.

    Weaknesses: Way too thin and weak for the NBA. Injured his knee last off season. Inconsistent. Foul prone. Turns the ball over too much. Not known as a good defender (other than blocking shots).

    Projected 2009 Draft Range: Mid first round pick.

    Consensus: Austin Daye’s skill package, housed inside his 6’11” frame, have NBA scouts intrigued. However, his lack of physical strength and knee injury have to be of concern. He should probably return to the ‘Zags for his junior year and work on getting stronger.
    75
    Ty Lawson
    8.00%
    6
    Jonny Flynn
    9.33%
    7
    DeJuan Blair
    29.33%
    22
    Terrence Williams
    10.67%
    8
    James Johnson
    25.33%
    19
    Jeff Teague
    1.33%
    1
    Tyler Hansbrough
    5.33%
    4
    Austin Daye
    0.00%
    0
    Eric maynor (plutarch)
    5.33%
    4
    Jimmy Chitwood (Natston)
    4.00%
    3
    Trade the pick (jhondog28)
    1.33%
    1

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    Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

    I picked James Johnson because it seems we haven't heard him connected with the Pacers at all. He seems to fit the bill for longer more athletic players that both Larry and JOB think is needed. But as usual, it's just a guess.
    Turn out the lights, this party's over!

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      Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

      It's already funny how all over the place we are...We seem so sure on most everyone else's draft picks....

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        Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

        I think if Flynn is there, the Pacers take him. Even if it's not for themselves

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          Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

          Originally posted by pwee31 View Post
          I think if Flynn is there, the Pacers take him. Even if it's not for themselves
          Yep.

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            Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

            Originally posted by ESutt7 View Post
            It's already funny how all over the place we are...We seem so sure on most everyone else's draft picks....

            That's because we expect L.Bird to pull off a trade of some sort to either move up into the top 5 or move back into the 16-20 range with multiple first round picks. We are expecting the unexpected!

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              Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

              Yeah I have high hopes for the night. I think we'll get the player they want most, so I'll be happy/supportive about whoever we get, even if I have questions about them. I've been thinking for a while that Maynor and Lawson may top the list. I could see JJ. I can definitely see them trading back to get a pair of players they like.

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                Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                i went with James Johnson. if we moved Ford, i would probably go with Flynn.

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                  Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                  Of these players, I think the Pacers would draft Johnson, mainly because of what Bird said about adding athleticsm to the frontcourt.

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                    Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                    I went with TWill since Henderson was gone....but didn't think of the option of "Bayless"-ing Flynn to get TWill along with some other assets further down the draft ( maybe to the Sixers ? )
                    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                      Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                      Originally posted by CableKC View Post
                      I went with TWill since Henderson was gone....but didn't think of the option of "Bayless"-ing Flynn to get TWill along with some other assets further down the draft ( maybe to the Sixers ? )
                      Based on the fact that TWill didn't workout in Indy, I'd say the chances are slim.

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                        Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                        Originally posted by Placebo View Post
                        Based on the fact that TWill didn't workout in Indy, I'd say the chances are slim.
                        If we're going with a PG with the 13th, I'm thinking that it's Lawson.

                        If we're going with a PF with the 13th, I'm thinking that it's either Blair or Johnson ( guessing Johnson since he can block a few shots here and there compared to Blair ).

                        If we're going with a GF with the 13th, I'm thinking Henderson...but since he's gone....it's TWill for me since he's IMHO the best GF after Henderson.

                        TWill has always been on the top of my list....so I picked him .

                        Although there is a need for some PG help....I'm hoping that we acquire another pick and get Maynor.
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                        • #13
                          Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                          Johnson.

                          Although, I'm wondering if Budinger is our reach this year. Bird seems to pick the guy he likes regardless of where he is slotted on the mocks. When asked what teams gave him positive feedback, the first team Budinger mentioned was Indiana, and when asked where he thinks he will be drafted, he said 13-18. I don't know, sounds to me like he thinks it's a possibility.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                            I don't think we'd reach for Budinger. He doesn't play hard enough.

                            And please don't let Blair win this poll......

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                              Re: The PD NBA Draft - #13 - Indiana

                              Originally posted by ESutt7 View Post
                              I don't think we'd reach for Budinger. He doesn't play hard enough.

                              And please don't let Blair win this poll......
                              If we draft Blair i'm going to puke all over my house and probably write a suicide note.

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