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    Ben Gordon's agent is reportedly telling people that his client has a guarantee from the Pistons.

    The agent claims that Detroit has promised Gordon $11 million annually, which makes sense considering that the guard rejected $10 million and $9 million from Chicago in the previous two years.

    There have been rumors that the Pistons are looking to trade Richard Hamilton, which has only accelerated the speculation that they are targeting Gordon.
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    Yay for getting overpaid!!!

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    Tampering?

    (Of course, that would just make them doubly-stupid.)

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    Gordon's value ($6.9m by my analysis) has eclipsed that of Hamilton, who will make $11.4m next season, but is in decline. I get the strategy of stealing from the enemy, and I can imagine his value increasing in a system more focussed around him, but ... ?

    Oh great Kstat, reader of all thoughts in Dumars' head, what say you?

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    I know it would never happen and it doesn't even make a lot of sense with the way our team is currently constructed but I would love to get Rip Hamilton. My man crush on him rivals Peck-Dale Davis proportions.
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    heh.

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    Please, please do break the bank on Gordon, Detroit, do it, do it, DO IT!!! :

    Offcourse, they still have enough room to sign another player to a premiere contract, but still... I wouldn't mind Gordon there at that price .

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    If Detroit signs Gordon and Boozer this offseason then I'll be ecstatic. Their payroll in about 4-5 years is going to look fantastic.
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    If Detroit signs Gordon and Boozer this offseason then I'll be ecstatic. Their payroll in about 4-5 years is going to look fantastic.
    Right there with you. Joe Dumars, the genius..........

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    A good player, but that's pricey.

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    Default Re: Has Detroit Given Gordon An $11M Promise?

    Gordon and Hamilton on the same team, making $11M+ per? Outstanding.

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    Has Detroit Given Gordon An $11M Promise?
    I sure hope so.
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    Default Re: Has Detroit Given Gordon An $11M Promise?

    Seriously, I didn't think they could talk to him until July 1st...not while he's under contract (technically) to the Bulls.

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    Gordon and Hamilton on the same team, making $11M+ per? Outstanding.

    Either Hamilton or Prince is going to be traded if they sign Gordon, so they'll have someone else at a diff. position to pay that kind of money to.

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    If Gordon goes to the Pistons at that price its fine by me.

    I think that is overpaying a little bit but Gordon is still a good player. He still is clutch. I would love to have him on this team just not at $11 million a year.

    I don't get it though, Gordon and Rodney Stuckey in the backcourt? I guess Stuckey is pretty big he can guard 2s, I sure hope so if I am Detroit at least.

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    Tampering?

    (Of course, that would just make them doubly-stupid.)
    There's no proof of tampering here. It's just Gordon's agent making claims. Tampering usually involves a team telling the media that they're interested in someone else's player.

    Will Perdue's comment saying "Tim Duncan isn't married to San Antonio" several years back got him a warning from the league (if not a fine), IIRC.

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    "Ben Gordon's agent is reportedly telling people that his client has a guarantee from the Pistons."

    Is he telling people this because it's true or because he wants 10+ million from the Bulls or another team?

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    "Ben Gordon's agent is reportedly telling people that his client has a guarantee from the Pistons."

    Is he telling people this because it's true or because he wants 10+ million from the Bulls or another team?
    Probably both. He's an agent. He's trying to do everything to drum up interest in his client and get the biggest contract he can.

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    Seriously, I didn't think they could talk to him until July 1st...not while he's under contract (technically) to the Bulls.
    Come on Detroit, pull a Joe Smith and lose draft picks too. We're cap locked AND miss our draft spot for 2 years, weeeeeee.


    Of course no matter what it won't come to that, Stern wouldn't let it. But Detroit needs to put the zip it in effect ASAP on BG's camp.


    Also, this is why I'm STRONGLY anti-cap space for the Pacers. The FA market is filled with overspending, year after year. It's not a good place to build a team. Trades and drafting are how to build a team.

    Rip - trade
    Billups - low-end FA signing
    Prince - mid-round draft pick
    Ben - trade
    Sheed - highway robbery

    While we are at it
    Kobe - trade/mid first pick
    Gasol - robbery
    Odom - trade
    Fisher - low-end FA signing
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    Also, this is why I'm STRONGLY anti-cap space for the Pacers. The FA market is filled with overspending, year after year. It's not a good place to build a team. Trades and drafting are how to build a team.
    Agreed.

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    Come on Detroit, pull a Joe Smith and lose draft picks too. We're cap locked AND miss our draft spot for 2 years, weeeeeee.


    Of course no matter what it won't come to that, Stern wouldn't let it. But Detroit needs to put the zip it in effect ASAP on BG's camp.


    Also, this is why I'm STRONGLY anti-cap space for the Pacers. The FA market is filled with overspending, year after year. It's not a good place to build a team. Trades and drafting are how to build a team.

    Rip - trade
    Billups - low-end FA signing
    Prince - mid-round draft pick
    Ben - trade
    Sheed - highway robbery

    While we are at it
    Kobe - trade/mid first pick
    Gasol - robbery
    Odom - trade
    Fisher - low-end FA signing
    And while we're at it...

    Magic:
    Alston - Trade
    Pietrus - FA
    Turkoglu - FA
    Lewis - FA
    Howard - Draft

    I wouldn't universally condemn FA...it's not a place to get your number one guy, I don't think. But in general, you can pick up many key guys (sometimes by overpaying) through FA. In general, like trades and the draft, it has its ups and downs. Wise spending, just like wise trading and drafting, is the key.

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    Orlando overpaid for Lewis and they're either about to lose or quite possibly overpay Turkoglu. I also don't think Orlando is that great anyway, despite how they did in these playoffs.

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    Default Re: Has Detroit Given Gordon An $11M Promise?

    Good lord. Ben Gordon is the elite go-to scorer in the entire league among non-superstars. $55 million for him (starting at much less than $11 million) would NOT be breaking the bank. It'd be slightly above what he's worth.

    That said, this deal only makes sense if two things happen: 1. Joe trades Rip, and 2. Joe finds a legit shot blocker up front to make up for Gordon's lack of height.

    IMO, Gordon and Stuckey would compliment each other very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
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    Come on Detroit, pull a Joe Smith and lose draft picks too. We're cap locked AND miss our draft spot for 2 years, weeeeeee.


    Of course no matter what it won't come to that, Stern wouldn't let it. But Detroit needs to put the zip it in effect ASAP on BG's camp.


    Also, this is why I'm STRONGLY anti-cap space for the Pacers. The FA market is filled with overspending, year after year. It's not a good place to build a team. Trades and drafting are how to build a team.
    Rip - trade
    Billups - low-end FA signing
    Prince - mid-round draft pick
    Ben - trade
    Sheed - highway robbery

    While we are at it
    Kobe - trade/mid first pick
    Gasol - robbery
    Odom - trade
    Fisher - low-end FA signing
    I agree, but the thing is how you are going to build a team if the Pacers are not bad enough to get a good pick, not good enough to make it to the playoffs and don't have enough pieces or cap space to make a trade happen?

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    Default Re: Has Detroit Given Gordon An $11M Promise?

    You don't need much cap space at all to make a trade.

    Step one is minimize your amount of bad draft picks to keep the talent pool high.

    And you can usually use the MLE to sign a decent addition to a team.

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