2008: Travis Deiner
2008: Travis Deiner
It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.
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i voted for rush. at the end of the season, he had me the most excited about 2010.
"Sometimes, when you look Andy in the eyes, you get a feeling somebody else is driving." -- David Letterman
I voted Rush- even though getting Jarrett Jack has been really nice for the Pacers so far.
For all the reasons given by Seth in his "I don't care" thread. Plus, donuts.
Can't go with Jack because he made a lot of mistakes that a veteran shouldn't. all Hibbert's mistakes can be explained as rookie mistakes. (But he's no longer a rookie, so he has no more excuses.)
And I won't be here to see the day
It all dries up and blows away
I'd hang around just to see
But they never had much use for me
In Levelland. (James McMurtry)
I voted Jack, but I easily could have voted Hibbert. Rush is a slightly distant third because it took him a while.
I'll go Roy. I love the offensive promise that he showed all season long. I would've voted for Brandon if he wouldn't have come on so late in the year.
I love both of these guys. They are going to be staples of this franchise for a long, long time along with Danny Granger. It's amazing to me how much more I enjoyed rooting for these guys this season than I did any of the previous 6. It was so hard for me to like those teams.
When this team is making the playoffs I will be proud to say that I watched most of the games of Hibbert and Rush's rookie season. It's going to be neat to watch guys grow up like this.
Last edited by Sollozzo; 06-06-2009 at 04:47 PM.
I felt Jack was, but then I always wanted Jack in a Pacers' uni.
Gotta love Roy !!!
I think most of the guys on the list ended up being exactly what we thought they'd be, so I voted for Jack. I think be exceeded expectations more than the rest.
Turn out the lights, this party's over!
Because he was given the opportunity to contribute and actually delivered many times throughout the year, my vote goes to Jack, despite my belief that Rush will have an overall larger impact on the franchise going forward.
Best of 2009? Jack.
Best hope for the future? Rush.
I'm always looking to the future... so Rush.
Jack was shaky at first, but then became solid as the season progressed.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
I don't care how well he played, I still don't like Jack's game.
If I ask myself deep down inside, I have to admit that I think he had a "contract year" - nothing more, nothing less.
I've never spoken of this before now, and I won't likely discuss it afterward, as I like the guy as a person and if he stays a pacer and contributes to our team, I will support him. But I think a lot of us took Jack's performance WAY out of context and turned him into some kind of player he is not.
Just my two cents.
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill
“If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird
Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you
Jack, and it's not even close. Rush and Roy came on a bit late, but Jack made his mark far more than anyone else that joined the Pacers last season.
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"Manti Te'o: the next Ray Lewis."
Last edited by count55; 06-08-2009 at 01:05 PM.
First of all is having Jack and Rush leading this vote Shade's worst nightmare or what.
Second, tough call for me. I said Rush but nearly went with Jack. Overall I go with Jack, but I like what Rush was for the team in the final month more than what Jack was all year. I think Rush became a more critical piece than Jack by the end of the year.
Considering both were acquired with the same draft pick that's a pretty nice addition. I really want to see Jack return, primarily because of attitude. He's a leader type, he's a guy that imposes himself on the situation in a positive though sometimes volatile way and the Pacers have been lacking that for some time (maybe since Jax left a decade ago).
I don't think he needs to be a big minutes guy or a starter to fill that role either.
Long term though I think Rush is going to help the team much more. I'm excited because I liked him as a prospect, liked his game, and it's looking like that's going to pan out as hoped. I look forward to some fun seasons watching him grow.