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    Default A Closer Look at PG Jonny Flynn

    Flynn out of Syracuse is one of a couple players named in mock drafts that we will draft.

    NBA Comparison: Damon Stoudamire

    Strengths: Tremendous athlete who always seems to have the game under control ... A real competitor who wants to take the big shots and excels in the clutch. His performance in the 6 OT UConn game (16-16 FT) was a good example ... One of the quickest guards in college basketball. Exceptional at getting into the lane and fearless finishing (sometimes dunking) over power forwards and centers ... Though he doesn't look overly muscular, Flynn possesses and utilizes great body strength for a 180-pound guard ... Can use both hands to finish at the rim. Exhibits great body control and creativity to get his shot off against taller defenders ... Can get to the foul line as well as any point guard out there, creating contact at the rim ... Is a clutch performer who has knocked countless late-game free throws in his two-year career at Syracuse ... Makes the game look easy because of his elite speed and quickness ... Lockdown defender on the perimeter. Flynn enjoys playing defense and seems to take pride in shutting down opposing point guards ... Displays solid court vision and strong leadership abilities ... Has the basketball IQ, focus and skills to excel as a pick-and-roll point guard at the next level.

    Weaknesses: Despite elite athleticism and quickness and good strength, Flynn is still just 6-feet tall. He will have a much tougher time attacking the rim against NBA big men than he did in college ... Because of that, Flynn needs to develop a more consistent jumpshot ... His lack of size is a concern as it takes a special talent to overcome the size issue ... More of a scorer than a distributor. Detractors question his ability to play the point guard position and run a team. Is he a natural point guard? Is he really ready? On the positive side, he's a heady player who will likely learn as he goes and improve ... At this point in his career, he is capable of ocasionally knocking down a long-range shot, but still does most of his damage in the paint ... Adding a strong 3-point shot and even a consistent 12-15 foot shot to his game would make Flynn virtually unguardable ... Can overdribble at times, but Syracuse's offense called for him to dominate the ball ... Will need to adapt to not having the ball in his hands all the time when he gets to the NBA Will also have to limit turnovers ... Flynn averaged 3.4 TOs per game as a sophomore ...

    Notes: Flynn, the Big East co-Rookie of the Year (along with DeJuan Blair) in 2008-2009, enjoyed a sensational sophomore campaign that saw him average 17.4 points and 6.7 assists per game. He was arguably the best point guard in the country and, because of his explosiveness, passion and leadership qualities, Flynn projects as a late-lottery pick in this draft.

    Kevin Duffy 5/23/09

    Strengths: A very quick point guard with tremendous handles, and an uncanny ability to score in bunches ... An excellent leaper ... Possesses a nice crossover, in-and-out, and hesitation dribbles to blow by his defender ... Puts constant pressure on the opposition by probing and attacking gaps as well as pushing the ball in transition at all times ... Changes direction on the break with remarkable ease and effectiveness ... Great pick and roll player, attacks switches and turns the corner extremely well to get to the hoop ... Completes plays around the basket with a variety of strong finishes ... Has a well developed mid-range game with pull ups going both ways as well as an effective floater ... Great form on his shot; well balanced, high release point and excellent elevation, and can shoot out to NBA range ... Very adept at getting his teammates easy hoops by driving and dishing ... Good body strength ... Great lateral quickness and foot speed could make him a nightmare on the defensive end by pressuring ball handlers ... Has a competitive spirit and the intelligence to excel at the point guard position ...

    Weaknesses: While he is fairly strong, he could still put on some more muscle at 511 or under, is undersized for the next level, and could be a mismatch waiting to happen for bigger guards, luckily he is a very good athlete which helps to overcome his lack of ideal size ... Playing strictly in a zone focused program will hurt his development defensively due to lack of experience and knowledge of man to man principles ... Can get in trouble by trying to do too much and over-dribbling ... Tends to play out of the offense and is known to take some ill-advised shots ... Settles too often for shooting contested jump shots instead of using his ability to get in the lane His court vision is decent, but needs to keep developing and become a better decision maker ... Keeps the ball too long in transition and gets careless with his passes ... Although he has decent assist numbers (5.3 per), needs to get better at setting up his teammates, which will help him become a more complete lead guard ...

    Borko Popic - 4/2/2008
    Notes: Played in the McDonalds All-American Game, Roundball Classic, and the Hoop Summit game. Part of the silver medal USA Team at the U19 World Championships in 2007.
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    What stood out to me the most was his athleticism rated as 9/10. That is one of the biggest things Bird is looking for in a PG or a C/PF this summer.

    If we draft him then I doubt Ford will be with us next season. He'll be traded for another defensive player.

    I hope this helped those who weren't too sure what kind of player Flynn is.


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    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonny-Flynn-1245/

    DraftExpress doesn't think as much of Flynn's finishing ability as that analysis does.

    On the other hand, despite his exceptional ability to get into the lane, Flynn’s ability to finish at the basket should become even more of a problem, given his lack of great size and that he already has troubles finishing at the rim. According to SST, Flynn converts only 54% of his finishes at the basket, which would rank him in the 26th percentile of NCAA players, and that’s only going against college frontlines.
    I don't really like the Stoudamire comparison. Mighty Mouse was a great shooter in college, knocking down the 3 at 46% his senior year. Flynn shot 31%.
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    What stood out to me the most was his athleticism rated as 9/10. That is one of the biggest things Bird is looking for in a PG or a C/PF this summer.
    Yeah....but wasn't he also looking for a slightly taller PG?

    Everything that I have read so far seems to suggest that we are talking about another TJ Ford. If he's even remotely close to Ford....I really prefer that we don't draft him.

    I suspect that there is a slightly greater chance that we keep Ford ( and let Jack go...mainly cuz of $$$ ) then we would trade Ford while resigning Jack. My preference is to get a PG that can complement Ford ( assuming that we end up keeping him and letting Jack go ) then get another undersized PG that appears to be more of a scorer then a passer.
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    Yeah....but wasn't he also looking for a slightly taller PG?
    The bigger point guard was O'Brien's comment. Bird hadn't said anything specific about point guards, other than that the PG's this year were all small.

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    The bigger point guard was O'Brien's comment. Bird hadn't said anything specific about point guards, other than that the PG's this year were all small.
    I stand corrected. Regardless, I really don't want to give JO'B the option to put some "Ford/<< insert any undersized PG in this draft that would be available at the 13th pick >>" PG/SG combo on the floor.
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    Bird even admitted to trying to get a larger PG. Unless we get really lucky and Tyreke Evans is still there when we pick. Other than that they don't have much of a choice on PGs over 6-3.

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    Yeah....but wasn't he also looking for a slightly taller PG?

    Everything that I have read so far seems to suggest that we are talking about another TJ Ford. If he's even remotely close to Ford....I really prefer that we don't draft him.

    I suspect that there is a slightly greater chance that we keep Ford ( and let Jack go...mainly cuz of $$$ ) then we would trade Ford while resigning Jack. My preference is to get a PG that can complement Ford ( assuming that we end up keeping him and letting Jack go ) then get another undersized PG that appears to be more of a scorer then a passer.
    not a jab at you, but that seems to be one of the biggest problems with this board. everybody goes based on "what they've read" as opposed to what they saw. seems like only a small percentage of this board actually watches college basketball regularly, but then those who don't (not saying you) come on here acting like they know what's best for the pacers based on what they've "read". it gets old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by croz24 View Post
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    not a jab at you, but that seems to be one of the biggest problems with this board. everybody goes based on "what they've read" as opposed to what they saw. seems like only a small percentage of this board actually watches college basketball regularly, but then those who don't (not saying you) come on here acting like they know what's best for the pacers based on what they've "read". it gets old.
    I know that you're not trying to "single" me out here.....but that's the only way that I can come up with an opinion on these players....based off of what I have read.....from other Draft Boards and what some ( who are way better at analyzing Basketball players then I am that also has the time to do so ) have posted. I simply do not have the "know how" much less the time to watch "tape" of players to form a better opinion.

    About Flynn......because IMHO it's not a given that Jack will be resigned, I ( as a pessimist ) believe that there is a good chance that we will continue to see Ford as a continuing Starting PG on the roster......while being forced to let Jack go to FA and sign another Team ( for financial reasons ). If that is the case, my preference....regardless of whether Flynn or Lawson is available...is not to have 2 PGs that are 6 feet tall in the PG rotation for the foreseeable future.

    Also....unless I am missing something, my opinion is that there no Players that will likely stand "heads and shoulders" ( as in an absolute "no-brainer" ) over anyone else at the 13th spot. There is as much of a chance that any PG that we will likely draft at the 13th spot would do as well as any other player that we have the chance to draft at any other position ( like Henderson, Blair or even TWill ). If that is the case ( basically all things being equal with many players at various positions of need having as many "positives" as "negatives" to their game ), I will default to my preference to avoid undersized PGs ( unless I know that we will resign Jack while moving Ford ).
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    I think reading 15 different opinions on a guy by people ranging from "experts" to common fans is a valid way to start to form an opinion on a player. I think it is nice to couple it with seeing some live action for sure, but I don't think that's the end all be all of this process from a fans perspective.

    Do we discount an expert historian of the Civil War because he wasn't there?

    Do I have to watch a surgeon perform Brain Surgery to know if he's any good?

    Not discounting the value of seeing these players live, but really I have a day job that isn't "NBA Scout" so I really can't know first hand about the 60 or so players about to be drafted first hand.

    Lastly, Even if I did watch a ton of games for a certain player, I'd still want to know what other reports said, just to make sure I didn't miss anything. That's just being secure enough in yourself to value others opinions and not be threatened by them.

    Very Lastly, I love T Birds analysis and the first hand nature of it. I truely value his thoughts. I sometime disagree, but I guess what I'm saying is I think it has merit to read what others say and have first hand knowledge, but I'd never discount what others said, well, unless it's jut stupid.

    Oh ya, Johnny Flynn-I'll say this, in the Association it takes a pretty special player to be a starting caliber Point Guard on a Playoff caliber team at his size. If I was drafting him, I'd have to be pretty sure he's a good gamble with those historically high odds.

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    All in all I just think we'll end up with Tyreke Evans in draft night trade involving Ford and our selction. Similar to last year.

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