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    Pacers' Granger wants to become one of NBA's top defenders


    As Danny Granger vacations in Italy, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James are marching toward a possible dream matchup in the NBA Finals.Granger proved he could go basket-to-basket with those two this season.
    Now the Indiana Pacers' All-Star forward needs to prove he can defend at the same level, or his vacation next year might start just as early as this one.
    Granger finished fifth in the league in scoring (25.8 ppg). His defense fell off as quickly as his offensive game took off, and the Pacers missed the playoffs for a third consecutive season.
    "Danny will get better," Pacers president Larry Bird said. "He'll do what it takes to get better. Danny plays with a chip on his shoulder. The one thing Danny has to do is take leadership on the defensive end. I think once he does that, guys will follow and we'll get better."
    James and Dwyane Wade were the NBA's top two scorers. They were also second and third, respectively, in Defensive Player of the Year voting because they embraced guarding the other team's best player. Granger didn't make the top 20 in voting.
    It's no surprise he'll put an emphasis on becoming a lockdown defender this summer.
    "LeBron didn't always play defense and D-Wade didn't always play defense," Granger said. "Now they've realized to be good in this league or to have an elite team you have to play defense. Next year I'll have more of a commitment to it because you kind of get zoned out.
    "People are always talking about how many points I score and this, that or another. I get zoned out, even in games."
    Wade was the league's role model for doing a lot with little around him.
    The Miami Heat All-Star guard led the league in scoring and got his team to Game 7 of the first round of the playoffs while not having an abundance of talent surrounding him.
    The Pacers need the same from Granger.
    Pacers coach Jim O'Brien used James and Boston's Kevin Garnett as examples for Granger to follow. The Cavaliers and Celtics are two of the best defensive teams in the league.
    "You look at any organization that has succeeded, it always comes down to defense," O'Brien said. "Kevin Garnett leading Boston . . . You can hear LeBron (during games) take pride in the way he challenges his team to constantly get the next stop. You can see it in his ability to guard the other team's best player.
    "It's a natural progression of the All-Star wanting to see his franchise go to the next level."
    It's not that Granger isn't a good defender. He spent the first few years of his career defending the opposing team's best player after learning from former teammate Ron Artest during part of his rookie season.
    The Pacers needed Granger to score last season. O'Brien didn't put him on the opponent's best perimeter player until late in the season.
    The Pacers can't afford to continue that approach because they won't be a playoff team until they learn how stop an opponent.
    No more excuses. Look at James and Wade.
    "As the leaders of your team, they have to own the defense," O'Brien said. "It can't be the coaches owning the defense because we don't play the game. It's got to be very, very important for the whole team to understand that the players that are our leaders are as serious about wanting a great defensive team as the coaching staff."
    Can he do this? Can he do this if we consistently put him at the 4 spot? Would you rather Rush guard the opposing scorer, so Danny can worry about scoring?

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    Can he do this?
    Yes!


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    Would you rather Rush guard the opposing scorer, so Danny can worry about scoring?
    No. I don't believe such a choice is necessary. Granger should lead at both ends of the court. But there should be a lot of switching off between those two in order to confuse opponents and provide rest as needed.
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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers' Granger wants to become one of NBA's top defenders

    That's all good and everything, but they still lack a decent low post defender.

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    No. I don't believe such a choice is necessary. Granger should lead at both ends of the court. But there should be a lot of switching off between those two in order to confuse opponents and provide rest as needed.
    I think we should match up straight with Danny and Brandon for most of the game. Danny guards the SF, Brandon guards the SG. What we need, however, is Danny guarding, and shutting down, the other team's best player during the last 2-3 minutes of close games. No more Devin Harris or Kobe shooting over Jarrett Jack to hit a game winning shot.
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    Can he do this if we consistently put him at the 4 spot?
    Why would we? Danny is a prototype SF. Playing guys out of position is a large part of why we lost so many games last year.

    Would you rather Rush guard the opposing scorer, so Danny can worry about scoring?
    Depends on who the opposing scorer is. DWade? Yes. LeBron? No.
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    This is awesome. The thing about Danny is I have complete confidence that he'll get this done, given his insane work ethic. BTW I'm glad we have a newswriter willing to write this sentence: "His defense fell off as quickly as his offensive game took off"
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    This stretch with Danny is like JO from 2001-2004 or so. You knew every summer he'd come back with something new. I think Danny has one or two more high gears to shift to before he peaks. And that's fantastic.

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    This stretch with Danny is like JO from 2001-2004 or so. You knew every summer he'd come back with something new. I think Danny has one or two more high gears to shift to before he peaks. And that's fantastic.
    Here's hoping his body holds up.
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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers' Granger wants to become one of NBA's top defenders

    The reason why I asked if he can do this while playing stints at the four spot is because he most likely is going to be doing this with JOB here. Especially if we resign Jack. I do not like it. I prefer danny guarding the best positional player out there. And I agree that having Rush is going to alleviate defensive pressure on Granger. But I really think that having Granger defending Amare, when we need him to defend Jason Richardson or Grant Hill, hurts us. But who then would guard Amare and then who would defend Shaq, if Hibbert rarely closes games? That is why this offseason is crucial. As tora states, we have to find a low post defender.
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    This is what I love about Danny. He's never satisfied. And when a player who is never satisfied has the tools to back it up, he has the capability of becoming an elite player.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers' Granger wants to become one of NBA's top defenders

    And he just got his contract. How many players have we seen in the NBA who get that big contract and are satisfied with how they are? They feel entitled or something and figure that they earned it so they no longer have to work on their game. If Danny keeps this mentality up for his career, the sky is the limit to the legacy he leaves.

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    This is what I love about Danny. He's never satisfied. And when a player who is never satisfied has the tools to back it up, he has the capability of becoming an elite player.
    Well said, sir.

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    Back in the super-early 90's I was a member of the Star of Indiana Drum and Bugle Corps' hornline. I played soprano.

    We had this horn instructor named Donnie Van Doren. I'm not going to go into too many details here, let's just say that Donnie was the most demanding instructor/coach I have ever encountered or ever even HEARD of ... in any field ... or any sport. EVER.

    Bobby Knight couldn't even hold a candle to this guy.

    Donnie's cold stare alone would make grown men weep. That's not hyperbole. That actually happened, more than once.

    Donnie's expectation was 100% excellence. Every time. Constant improvement through effort. I remember him saying. "These are the cards we've been dealt. How we play them is up to us."

    He took a rag-tag group of nerdy horn players and reshaped them until they had nerves of steel. He quite literally took a group with (arguably) much less overall talent than other hornlines and demanded that we get better every single day. Slip-ups would not be tolerated. Excuses would not be tolerated. Limitations would be ignored. Perfection was the expectation. Always.

    Donnie Took a second tier corps and led them to multiple Top-Brass awards at the World Championships, including one World Championship in 1991.

    He was one of the biggest influences in my life, and I doubt he would recognize me if I saw him on the street.



    Anyway, Danny Granger might not be the most gifted player in the world like Lebron or Kobe, but he has something that can make up that difference. He has a work ethic and an expectation for perfection that can take him to the top.
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    He has so much faith in himself and is always believing. I see him becoming an NBA great or our next Reggie in that matter. We can do some great things with him as a Pacer. First step is to get into the playoffs. We already beat the NBA's best teams.

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    The reason why I asked if he can do this while playing stints at the four spot is because he most likely is going to be doing this with JOB here. Especially if we resign Jack. I do not like it. I prefer danny guarding the best positional player out there. And I agree that having Rush is going to alleviate defensive pressure on Granger. But I really think that having Granger defending Amare, when we need him to defend Jason Richardson or Grant Hill, hurts us. But who then would guard Amare and then who would defend Shaq, if Hibbert rarely closes games? That is why this offseason is crucial. As tora states, we have to find a low post defender.
    I dont see JOB here after next season. This is his last year in his contract. I dont see an extension coming. I think Bird will relieve him in his coaching duties and possibly offer him a position with the front office.

    I hope we can get one of the Van Gundy brothers (preferably Stan)
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