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    http://www.indystar.com/article/2009...069/SPORTS0601

    Because I am a hoosier I would not like to see this happen, ever, but I thought the article was worth posting. How do you think he would do as an NBA head coach?

    My feeling is that he would not be that great. At IU his gameplan appeard to be to give the the ball to Gordon or DJ White and let them try to create for themselves. That works if you have a couple of players who are better than many of your opponents, but it does not work in the NBA unless you have somebody like Kobe or LeBron or others in that group. I think he should stay where is as an assistent or just go away completely, but that might be more because of what he did to my Hoosiers than his actual coaching ability.

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    I think he is a really good coach

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    Default Re: IndyStar: Sampson on Track to NBA Head Coach

    You know he fits more in the nba than in college. The way he interacts with the players seems more like A pro coach would. He won't be able to call other team's players. But that shouldn't be a problem for this guy right?

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    If he does make it as a head coach, will he get grief as long as Lawrence Funderburk did when he would come to Indianapolis as a Pro?
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    I think he is a really good coach
    Why?

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    Yeah, Sampson did a pretty good job minus the recruiting violations. I wish him the best.

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    I just never found myself all that impressed by his coaching. I think he was good at getting the kids to play hard for him but strategically I never saw him as anything more than average.

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    I just never found myself all that impressed by his coaching. I think he was good at getting the kids to play hard for him but strategically I never saw him as anything more than average.
    Playing hard is a big step. Your guys have to play hard to make it anywhere.

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    I think he is a really good coach
    you do? hmm, well i guess i am in the group that is less than impressed. i never saw anything from him that impressed me during his 2 year stint at iu. in the last year our offense consisted of giving the ball to gordon and having him go 1on1 and if he couldn't get a shot, throw it out for a 3pointer. dj got most of his points that year by getting the misses and putting them back in.
    he ain't much in my book. whoever hires him will likely be getting a C-/C level coach.

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    Yeah, Sampson did a pretty good job minus the recruiting violations. I wish him the best.
    That's like saying ebola isn't that bad except that it's fatal.

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    That's like saying ebola isn't that bad except that it's fatal.
    Good analogy.

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    That's like saying ebola isn't that bad except that it's fatal.

    Yeah... but he won't be getting recruiting violations in the NBA. Of course a tampering charge is always possible!

    It does suck that he cheated in the NCAA, got a 2nd opportunity (that was questionably deserved) and cheated again with all eyes upon him, got 'let go' with a 'nice' 750K severance pkg, and now is on a fast track for an NBA head coaching job and the dollars that would bring.

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    Why?
    They always plays extremely hard, they play good defense, they are tough. Really liked how his Oklahoma teams played. I didn't watch much of IU last season, but from a far he seemed to be doing the same things last season as he did at Oklahoma.

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    I think he is a really good coach
    I never saw such a helter skelter brand of basketball in my life as I did under Sampson.

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    They always plays extremely hard, they play good defense, they are tough. Really liked how his Oklahoma teams played. I didn't watch much of IU last season, but from a far he seemed to be doing the same things last season as he did at Oklahoma.



    Like recruiting problem type players.

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    Like recruiting problem type players.
    Obvisiously I am talking about on the court stuff

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    Sampson didn't recruit players with off court problems.

    The big knock on him before coming to IU was his graduation rate, and that's because he has always took on a lot of Juco players, and because they are transfer players they don't count in graduation rate regardless.

    The players that had off court problems while at IU, under Sampson, were Mike Davis recruits.

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    Sampson didn't recruit players with off court problems.

    The big knock on him before coming to IU was his graduation rate, and that's because he has always took on a lot of Juco players, and because they are transfer players they don't count in graduation rate regardless.

    The players that had off court problems while at IU, under Sampson, were Mike Davis recruits.
    Yes and no. Bassett was a Davis recruit, but was convinced to stay by Sampson. Jamarcus Ellis was purely Sampson. DeAndre Thomas was purely Sampson. We don't know about Jordan Crawford (recruited by Sampson we don't know if he had any issues), I always assumed he was innocent in all of it. Eli Holman was Sampson. We know he had some issues.
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    I thought only Bassy and Ellis were the two with problems, or atleast busted anyways.

    Sampson didn't have a history of problem players though, that was my point. When you change schools you have to recruit on the fly, and take some gambles. Obviously neither gambling nor breaking the rules really helped him out though.

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    I wasn't impressed with him at IU, but I sure was at Oklahoma. Back at Purdue in the '90s I pegged him as the guy I wanted to replace Keady (and that was before he made the Final Four.) And that's why I'm not an AD. :whew:
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    Sampson didn't recruit players with off court problems.

    The big knock on him before coming to IU was his graduation rate, and that's because he has always took on a lot of Juco players, and because they are transfer players they don't count in graduation rate regardless.

    The players that had off court problems while at IU, under Sampson, were Mike Davis recruits.
    Bassett was originally a Davis recruit, then talked about leaving but changed his mind because he liked Sampson. He never played for Davis. He and Crawford both got suspensions for smoking weed. Ellis threatened to have "his boys" kill Dakich during a practice, which is why he was kicked off the team. Holman grew up in the hood, not necessarily his fault but he definately had issues; he threw a potted plant at Crean. Eric gordon himself told ESPN there was huge drug problem on the team, and Sampson did nothing to stop it. The only player with problems who both was recruited by and played for Davis was AJ Ratliff.
    But this is an NBA board..

    I think Sampson was a great motivator and was able to get his teams to play hard. This worked at Indiana because he had a great team leader in DJ White and a phenomenal talent in Eric Gordon. He also guys who could move the ball up the court and who could both drive and shoot the 3 with Ellis, Bassett, and Crawford.

    However, he did not seem to run an organized offense in any way. I feel like he allowed his talented players to run the floor and create something for themselves, but I only saw him in Indiana. The one game that stands out to me the most was UCon last year. They had superior size and athleticism and were a difficult opponent. All the Hoosiers did on offense was go down low to DJ, who was being gaurded by Hasheem, or let Gordon try to shoot from outside or attempt to drive the lane; which is what we had been doing all year against everybody. There were not any special plays to get guys open or get others involved. I do not think that will cut it in the NBA, but who knows.

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    I think he is a really good coach
    At what? After all, you don't watch NCAA basketball...

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    If he does make it as a head coach, will he get grief as long as Lawrence Funderburk did when he would come to Indianapolis as a Pro?
    Good question. Yeah, I think that's quite possible. Maybe even moreso.

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    I thought Sampson had some pretty good defensive teams. Either that or he knew ho to motivate teams to defend. Look at IU before and after him.

    I thought the Wilmonts, Callaways and Ratliffs defended better with him as the coach, and though last year's players may have throw in the towel under Dakich, you could still see the difference in defensive intensity wih Sampson and without

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