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    Default T.J. to the Heat

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    Due to Indiana and Miami being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Miami had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: -4.5 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and -4.1 apg.

    Incoming Players
    Udonis Haslem
    6-8 SF from Florida
    10.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 34.3 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    T.J. Ford
    5-11 PG from Texas
    15.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 30.8 minutes



    Miami Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +4.5 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and +4.1 apg.

    Incoming Players
    T.J. Ford
    5-11 PG from Texas
    15.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 30.8 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Udonis Haslem
    6-8 SF from Florida
    10.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 34.3 minutes

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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    I'd rather keep Ford. Ford has more value than that
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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    I love it. The only problem is that the Heat are looking to re-sign DWade and another player in the summer of 2010. If TJ doesn't opt out, then you have another 8M holding up cap space. Not what the Heat need in looking to land a big time free agent.

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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    Quote Originally Posted by pacergod2 View Post
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    I love it. The only problem is that the Heat are looking to re-sign DWade and another player in the summer of 2010. If TJ doesn't opt out, then you have another 8M holding up cap space. Not what the Heat need in looking to land a big time free agent.
    Yeah, you're right, probably won't happen, thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacergod2 View Post
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    I love it. The only problem is that the Heat are looking to re-sign DWade and another player in the summer of 2010. If TJ doesn't opt out, then you have another 8M holding up cap space. Not what the Heat need in looking to land a big time free agent.
    Great point. Ford will probably exercise his option in 2010
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    Great point. Ford will probably exercise his option in 2010
    He'd be crazy not to.

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    He'd be crazy not to.
    Particularly since everybody but Hoopshype says he doesn't have an option...and Hoopshype is (almost) never right.

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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    The problem with TJ's value is that it's terribly affected by his contract length.

    For once I think it's a fair trade overall. Miami gets the better talent for sure but pays for it... So things even out in a certain way.

    Not to mention it answers a true need for both teams though I think Miami is happy with Chalmers development. Still a good scoring option next to D Wade would be nice, I read in the daily dime the guy takes more than 50% of the starters shots... TJ could be the DWade's Mo Williams :|

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    Particularly since everybody but Hoopshype says he doesn't have an option...and Hoopshype is (almost) never right.
    Hoopsworld says he has an option too http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9198
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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    Hoopshype and hoopsworld... same same, but different

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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    I could see El Heat doing this trade with a preliminary agreement with TJ that he will opt out of his contract and they will sign him to a longer, smaller deal. That way he can secure his spot on a contender and they aren't strapped for more money on a cap hold for Haslem or Ford's full 8.50M. It actually would help the Heat sign a big free agent next year. He and Chalmers would be an excellent PG combination IMO.

    We need some bulk in the front court and Haslem can shoot fairly well. I love this deal. I would want to sign Haslem after this season, which might be tough to do however unless we can pawn Tinsley on someone. We aren't going to have much flexibility, but in this deal we are rid of Ford's contract to make it a possibility at least. I really like this deal, but the only way it gets done is if TJ signs an extension with the Heat prior to next year. Would be a smart move by the Heat. They already have too many PF's trying to play other positions and are VERY thin at PG.

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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    Quote Originally Posted by pacergod2 View Post
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    I could see El Heat doing this trade with a preliminary agreement with TJ that he will opt out of his contract and they will sign him to a longer, smaller deal. That way he can secure his spot on a contender and they aren't strapped for more money on a cap hold for Haslem or Ford's full 8.50M. It actually would help the Heat sign a big free agent next year. He and Chalmers would be an excellent PG combination IMO.

    We need some bulk in the front court and Haslem can shoot fairly well. I love this deal. I would want to sign Haslem after this season, which might be tough to do however unless we can pawn Tinsley on someone. We aren't going to have much flexibility, but in this deal we are rid of Ford's contract to make it a possibility at least. I really like this deal, but the only way it gets done is if TJ signs an extension with the Heat prior to next year. Would be a smart move by the Heat. They already have too many PF's trying to play other positions and are VERY thin at PG.
    How are you going to force that agreement though. I dont think Ford would be up for it. If you look at basic contract law, the only way to make changes to a contract is if both parties agree to it, and I dont see Ford doing that
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    Default Re: T.J. to the Heat

    Why wouldn't he agree to a contract extension? He loses out on a couple million next year to guarantee more future money. I don't understand how he wouldn't do that... especially to play on a contender. Athletes negotiate extensions all the time in return for opting out of a higher last year in their contract. Especially in the land of guaranteed contracts.

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