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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

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Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

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We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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The Wolf Game 2 - Day 8 - And the End cometh

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  • #61
    Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

    BayouPacer

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    • #62
      Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

      BayouPacer

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      • #63
        Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

        Originally posted by Snickers
        Great story! Especially the bit with Mourning. Orange juice and a hard head.

        BayouPacer gets my vote.
        ...






        BayouPacer gets my vote too.

        Regards,

        Mourning
        2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

        2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

        2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

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        • #64
          Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

          Let's face it. BayouPacer will die.

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          • #65
            Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

            Originally posted by Aw
            Let's face it. BayouPacer will die.

            Official Member of the Anti-Alliteration Association

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            • #66
              Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

              /me cries!!!! I feel like Kobe will right before his verdict.

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              • #67
                Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

                BP has, by my count, 9 votes against him. Let's end it. Voting over; killing begin. (I hope we're right.)

                Take me out to the black, tell 'em I ain't coming back. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

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                • #68
                  Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

                  I hope you know what you guys are doing too!

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                  • #69
                    Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

                    Able will be running the game until the 25th. I'll be gone.
                    Play Mafia!
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                    • #70
                      Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

                      Scooby plays his part

                      It's time! It’s time! Shouted btwoncolt, when he came running towards the great hall, which was starting to fill again slowly with the remaining people.
                      Some had bothered to remove the mess the wolves left the previous night and most were somewhat comprehensive about the upcoming selection of who was to hang, after all, obnoxiousmodesty was known for erratic behaviour and despite the fact that a large majority had chosen bayoupacer to be the main attraction that evening, no one was really sure it wasn't them.

                      Gyron was as cocky as the prize bull in a barnyard, with all the money hicks had used on him to bribe his votes and get some Scooby snacks he'd been able to use the last bit of power in his cell phone to order more Scooby snacks.
                      Of course he had thought little about how the snacks were to be getting to him, considering the park was closed off to new comers and all others, however he had not hesitated more then a nanosecond between calling the outside authorities or the Scooby snack factory.

                      He was just a little upset about the delivery cost, but hey guaranteed delivery, so until then he could re-count his money endlessly and was therefore enjoying himself either way, he simply lacked the intelligence to be afraid of real dangers as hanging and being eaten.

                      One of the last to arrive was Mourning, cast in an orange glow (seemed the preservatives in the orange juice were harder to clean off then he had hoped) he was accompanied by Snickers who was heavily involved with his imaginative friends, the voices in his head kept him pretty much at bay and he followed Mourning everywhere since Mourning returned to the cottage they were staying in that morning all covered in orange juice.

                      Hicks was grumbling as usual since he was nearly out of money and feared a vote when this happened, how to keep that horrible gyron out of his hair then and what's more, how to prevent him from voting for him....... He had to find another way, maybe if he tied Gyron to the rollercoaster that evening the wolves would find him first and not bother to go look for other offerings.... He silently pondered on this plan when obnoxiousmodesty got up on one of the tables and started to address the crowd that now was assembled.

                      "People" shouted obnoxiousmodesty, "we have voted and I have counted the votes, my thanks go to btowncolt for helping me count, he made sure I would not make a mistake; especially the knife against my throat helped me not miscounting the votes for him"

                      "We have found that bayoupacer has to be a wolf, therefore we will hang him from the rollercoaster tonight!"

                      A loud cheer went up from those that had voted for bayoupacer and those that were happy it was not them.
                      In the eruption of cheers bayoupacer slipped out of the hall secretly and in the frontcourt was quickly looking around to see what his options were.
                      The last thing he would allow them was to hang him, it was a way to go he had never fathomed would be his destiny and he liked his neck the way it was, there was no need for a nasty rope to cover his nice gold necklace.... Certainly rope was not "bling".

                      Silently he had moved to the middle of the forecourt and was shocked to hear an airplane approaching the game area, perhaps that was a way out, if he could only alert them to their precarious position......

                      He pulled of his Pacer-shirt, proudly worn while he was on holiday, despite the fact that Reggie did not produce great numbers anymore, he would support him to the end. Did he ever know.......?


                      The people inside heard the airplane to and were getting to the windows to see what was happening, none realized that bayoupacer was out there until they saw him and no one was hero enough to go outside in the simmering light.

                      Then the play came into view, it was a small plane with the weirdest colour, and when it came closer they realized that it was painted with the image of Scooby-Doo.....

                      Gyron ran out having more then a little idea that this might be his delivery, which was just in time considering the falling night, but when he came out and saw Bayoupacer he hesitated.
                      This hesitation most likely saved his life as at that precise moment the backdoor on the plane opened up and 4 gigantic bags were thrown from the plane.
                      Bayoupacer looked on in amazement while he waved his shirt for attention, and saw the bags racing towards him with an awful speed.
                      While he was still thinking that those must have been the biggest bags he ever saw and realized that the bags were also bearing the Scooby-Doo image his mind clicked and when less then a second later the was able to read the "Scooby-Doo-SNACKS” imprint on the bag he also realized he was in the direct way of descend for the bags.
                      Since he was between the ground and the bags the result was messy, one bag hit him full in the head and burst open and while he was showered in Scooby snacks, the second, third and fourth bag hit his body as he was buried under the snacks.

                      Gyron took no risks, the closed bags were dragged off into the great hall with help from Hicks in exchange for another no vote promise and when he started scooping up the loose snacks that surrounded the lifeless body of Bayoupacer, he realized a hanging was not in the cards for that evening, Scooby himself had taken care of their justice and with a smile on his face, his confidence even stronger then it already was (was that possible?) he strolled back to his cottage as one of the last in the now quickly falling night.
                      Few noticed the change in Bayoupacer's body, still partly hidden by the snacks it changed into a furry heap that likely once would have resembled an imposing Wolf.....


                      Night has arrived, wolves, pm me with your choice

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                      So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

                      If you've done 6 impossible things today?
                      Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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                      • #71
                        Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Day 2 - Thanks able!

                        Great post Able, and thanks you punks for killing an innocent wolf. I swear, I didn't even enjoy eating Able.

                        Something makes me think Able relly enjoyed this story.

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                        • #72
                          Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Night 3 - Scooby Doo Strikes!

                          2 for 2, baby!

                          Able, you're pretty good at this story writing business. But I should have more of a role than walking around talking to myself.
                          Official Member of the Anti-Alliteration Association

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                          • #73
                            Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Night 3 - Scooby Doo Strikes!

                            WOOHOO!!! We got another wolf!

                            I apparently have quite business going with Scooby Snacks......I guess when the humans run out of food, we are going to be eating scooby snacks for breakfast lunch and dinner......assuming we survive the wolves......

                            hmm....I wonder if I bury myself deep enough in the huge bags of snacks, maybe I can hide this one out until all the wolves have been found and appropriately disposed of......


                            p.s. GREAT story Able....I can't wait for the next chapter.....that is assuming I'm not eaten in it.....

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                            • #74
                              Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Night 3 - Scooby Doo Strikes!

                              Rrrrrrr Scooby-Dooby Dooooooo!!

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                              • #75
                                Re: The Wolf Game 2 - Night 3 - Scooby Doo Strikes!

                                Damn. That just made things a little bit easier. Great job able.
                                Take me out to the black, tell 'em I ain't coming back. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

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