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    Great mental toughness by the guys.

    All those close games in the first half of the year is beginning to pay off now. We wouldn't have pulled this game out earlier in the year.

    Some good defensive adjustments down the stretch.
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    106-105 was our only lead of the 2nd half.
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    A good late-game effort by the team. It didn't look like we deserved to win given our defensive effort prior to the 4th quarter, but we really turned it up in the clutch.

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    That was still such a lousy effort that it feels like a loss!

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    Marquis 5-17 ouch.. he made up for it in the end though.

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    106-105 was our only lead of the 2nd half.
    "He wanted to get to that money time. Time when the hardware was on the table. That's when Roger was going to show up. So all we needed to do was stay close"
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    Looks like we have 4 post-game threads!

    Anyway, can someone merge them?

    This game we didn't deserve, but it made up for the Portland game.

    Good gutty game by Jack at the end... and Murph as well.

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    4 post game threads? Seems like everyone is a little jumpy to start their own thread. Anyways, I caught part of this game and I'd just like to add that its nice to have a team that doesn't fold when things don't go their way. You have to give these guys credit. Against all odds, they are still making a push for the playoffs. Good win!

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    4 post game threads? Seems like everyone is a little jumpy to start their own thread.
    Not really. We've had a few games where no one ever started one.

    As long as one gets started, that's all that matters.
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    4 post game threads?
    I think we were all waiting for you to start it.

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    Troy now holds the Pacers record for most double doubles in a row! Way to go Troy!

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    Troy now holds the Pacers record for most double doubles in a row! Way to go Troy!
    I think 15 rebounds without one single offensive board might be a record as well. Seriously, I know the big fans love to brush that off but it's not normal, not even close. No other top rebounders are anywhere near as ridiculously lopsided in their OFF/DEF ratio.


    But whatever, dude is an offensive machine so what do I care. What does tick me off is this - Clips start 2 rooks, one at center, and Roy doesn't even get in the game. For chrissake Jordan is way more raw than Roy, Roy could have taken it to him a little.

    And Gordon, well all they do for him is run him out there for 40+ minutes. Meanwhile it feels like we have to beg just to see Rush for 20 a night, let alone Roy and McBob.

    The reward for not using the rooks? A flub give-away game from the Clips for a freaking 1 point win, with them missing several key guys as well. I mean the Clips are like a rookie/soph game with Fred Jones as the vet.

    I'm fine for a playoff push, but throwing everything you've got at the most broken-spirit team in the NBA for a 1 point win doesn't indicate a team making a move. I know they got the win, but for the life of me I'm not sure I see the direction the team is headed. Maybe if this was the 2nd night on a back to back but it wasn't.

    Just one more night where a team proves they can easily run with the Pacers despite playing their own youth movement while ours spend most of the time on the bench.

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    I think 15 rebounds without one single offensive board might be a record as well. Seriously, I know the big fans love to brush that off but it's not normal, not even close. No other top rebounders are anywhere near as ridiculously lopsided in their OFF/DEF ratio.


    But whatever, dude is an offensive machine so what do I care. What does tick me off is this - Clips start 2 rooks, one at center, and Roy doesn't even get in the game. For chrissake Jordan is way more raw than Roy, Roy could have taken it to him a little.

    And Gordon, well all they do for him is run him out there for 40+ minutes. Meanwhile it feels like we have to beg just to see Rush for 20 a night, let alone Roy and McBob.

    The reward for not using the rooks? A flub give-away game from the Clips for a freaking 1 point win, with them missing several key guys as well. I mean the Clips are like a rookie/soph game with Fred Jones as the vet.

    I'm fine for a playoff push, but throwing everything you've got at the most broken-spirit team in the NBA for a 1 point win doesn't indicate a team making a move. I know they got the win, but for the life of me I'm not sure I see the direction the team is headed. Maybe if this was the 2nd night on a back to back but it wasn't.

    Just one more night where a team proves they can easily run with the Pacers despite playing their own youth movement while ours spend most of the time on the bench.
    Seth...Hibbert wasn't there, he was at his grandfather's funeral.
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    Jesus, Seth...Hibbert wasn't there, he was at his grandfather's funeral.
    That is what I was thinking...

    But anyway, we got the win. I don't care how it happened, or how we did it, but the W column is one number higher now.

    With that said, I'm heading to bed. w00t! A rhyme!

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    But whatever, dude is an offensive machine so what do I care. What does tick me off is this - Clips start 2 rooks, one at center, and Roy doesn't even get in the game. For chrissake Jordan is way more raw than Roy, Roy could have taken it to him a little.
    Ah ha! Caught not paying attention! That doesn't happen to you very often. (cackle, cackle)

    By the way Rush got 24 plus minutes. Hehehehehehe!
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    Just got back from the game.

    I thought Granger was going to play after watching him in the warmups. Jack put in a lot of extra time before the game shooting.


    We pulled out a very ugly win. You can tell it's going to be ugly when our opponent hits 12 points before the clock hits 8:00.

    The difference in this game, imo, was O'Brien putting Rush on Gordon, as count mentioned. The Clippers have a weird team that somehow provided a bunch of mismatches.

    Anyways, Rush knocked EJ out of rhythm, so much so that he couldn't regain it when TJ switched back over late.

    When Brandon plays, our defense is significantly better.

    When Travis plays, our offense is significantly better.

    When Rasho plays, our team is significantly worse.


    I wish everyone in denial on the rebound stealing would've had my seat tonight. Foster and Murphy really got into it on the court after a rebound mishap. Troy threw his towel at the bench and it took a couple of players to cool him down.

    Don't have much video, unless anyone wants to see Lauren Conrad walk by me after the game.

    *edit* I noticed quite a few Pacers fans at the game; more than I can remember at past games. That's encouraging.
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    The reward for not using the rooks? A flub give-away game from the Clips for a freaking 1 point win, with them missing several key guys as well. I mean the Clips are like a rookie/soph game with Fred Jones as the vet.
    As others have said, Hibbert wasn't there.

    I don't get this deal about "not playing the rooks" anyway. The Pacers obviously made a strong "let's play the rooks" commitment in early February. In the last 15 games, Rush has played less than 20 minutes twice. Hibbert has played less than 15 minutes 3 times.

    Neither one have been consigned to garbage time, they're getting legit rotation roles.

    They are getting plenty of run to figure out the NBA.
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    I think 15 rebounds without one single offensive board might be a record as well. Seriously, I know the big fans love to brush that off but it's not normal, not even close. No other top rebounders are anywhere near as ridiculously lopsided in their OFF/DEF ratio.


    But whatever, dude is an offensive machine so what do I care. What does tick me off is this - Clips start 2 rooks, one at center, and Roy doesn't even get in the game. For chrissake Jordan is way more raw than Roy, Roy could have taken it to him a little.

    And Gordon, well all they do for him is run him out there for 40+ minutes. Meanwhile it feels like we have to beg just to see Rush for 20 a night, let alone Roy and McBob.

    The reward for not using the rooks? A flub give-away game from the Clips for a freaking 1 point win, with them missing several key guys as well. I mean the Clips are like a rookie/soph game with Fred Jones as the vet.

    I'm fine for a playoff push, but throwing everything you've got at the most broken-spirit team in the NBA for a 1 point win doesn't indicate a team making a move. I know they got the win, but for the life of me I'm not sure I see the direction the team is headed. Maybe if this was the 2nd night on a back to back but it wasn't.

    Just one more night where a team proves they can easily run with the Pacers despite playing their own youth movement while ours spend most of the time on the bench.
    It's already been explained why Hibbert wasn't there, so I won't get into that. But I'm absolutely puzzled as to why you're downplaying this as a "freaking 1 point win." Come on, we were 8-26 on the road going into last night! ANY road win for this team is huge. I don't care if it's the Clippers or the Lakers, a road win for a team with 8 road wins is something to be proud of. Geez, we lose close games left and right to both good and bad teams so I think it's a pretty big deal for us to come up clutch and take a close one on the road (in a game we mostly trailed).

    And the rookies have been getting plenty of time lately. In February, Rush dipped below 20 minutes only twice and Hibbert went below 15 only 4 times. I get the feeling every game that O'Brien would play Hibbert more minutes if he didn't pick up so many fouls. The rookies are coming along fine and there is no doubt in my mind that they will work hard this summer and will contribute even more next season.
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    It's already been explained why Hibbert wasn't there, so I won't get into that. But I'm absolutely puzzled as to why you're downplaying this as a "freaking 1 point win." Come on, we were 8-26 on the road going into last night! ANY road win for this team is huge. I don't care if it's the Clippers or the Lakers, a road win for a team with 8 road wins is something to be proud of. Geez, we lose close games left and right to both good and bad teams so I think it's a pretty big deal for us to come up clutch and take a close one on the road (in a game we mostly trailed).

    This is also a huge win because, IIRC, this is the first time the Pacers have ever won a game in Staples Center. Even with Reggie, JO, and Artest this team could never win in that building. BIG WIN!
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    I think 15 rebounds without one single offensive board might be a record as well. Seriously, I know the big fans love to brush that off but it's not normal, not even close. No other top rebounders are anywhere near as ridiculously lopsided in their OFF/DEF ratio.


    But whatever, dude is an offensive machine so what do I care. What does tick me off is this - Clips start 2 rooks, one at center, and Roy doesn't even get in the game. For chrissake Jordan is way more raw than Roy, Roy could have taken it to him a little.

    And Gordon, well all they do for him is run him out there for 40+ minutes. Meanwhile it feels like we have to beg just to see Rush for 20 a night, let alone Roy and McBob.

    The reward for not using the rooks? A flub give-away game from the Clips for a freaking 1 point win, with them missing several key guys as well. I mean the Clips are like a rookie/soph game with Fred Jones as the vet.

    I'm fine for a playoff push, but throwing everything you've got at the most broken-spirit team in the NBA for a 1 point win doesn't indicate a team making a move. I know they got the win, but for the life of me I'm not sure I see the direction the team is headed. Maybe if this was the 2nd night on a back to back but it wasn't.

    Just one more night where a team proves they can easily run with the Pacers despite playing their own youth movement while ours spend most of the time on the bench.
    This is uncharacteristic of you, Seth. I just want to make sure that you watched/listened the same game.

    I think that this was a night where neither team was able to "run" with the other. The Clippers had this game most of the way.

    It seems we habe a knack for bringing darkness to the sunshine that is known as a win. We won a game that looked like we were going to get slaughtered in. I am happy.

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    This is uncharacteristic of you, Seth. I just want to make sure that you watched/listened the same game.

    I think that this was a night where neither team was able to "run" with the other. The Clippers had this game most of the way.

    It seems we habe a knack for bringing darkness to the sunshine that is known as a win. We won a game that looked like we were going to get slaughtered in. I am happy.
    It certainly looks like a "box score" post, to me.

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    I think 15 rebounds without one single offensive board might be a record as well. Seriously, I know the big fans love to brush that off but it's not normal, not even close. No other top rebounders are anywhere near as ridiculously lopsided in their OFF/DEF ratio.


    But whatever, dude is an offensive machine so what do I care. What does tick me off is this - Clips start 2 rooks, one at center, and Roy doesn't even get in the game. For chrissake Jordan is way more raw than Roy, Roy could have taken it to him a little.

    And Gordon, well all they do for him is run him out there for 40+ minutes. Meanwhile it feels like we have to beg just to see Rush for 20 a night, let alone Roy and McBob.

    The reward for not using the rooks? A flub give-away game from the Clips for a freaking 1 point win, with them missing several key guys as well. I mean the Clips are like a rookie/soph game with Fred Jones as the vet.

    I'm fine for a playoff push, but throwing everything you've got at the most broken-spirit team in the NBA for a 1 point win doesn't indicate a team making a move. I know they got the win, but for the life of me I'm not sure I see the direction the team is headed. Maybe if this was the 2nd night on a back to back but it wasn't.

    Just one more night where a team proves they can easily run with the Pacers despite playing their own youth movement while ours spend most of the time on the bench.
    He is lopsided on his total. But we also have to remember he camps at the 3pt line. I am not sure about this game because I did not get to watch but a lot of times he does not get the offensive rebound because he runs in and volleyball swats it out to the PG.

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    Say what you want, but if they play like they did last night they'll finish the season 1-17. I understand the concern. It appeared we'd turned the corner the last 5-6 games only to regress to last night's play.

    There's no reason the game should've been close, but the Clippers had several mismatches that we didn't figure out until the 4th quarter. I'm still scratching my head about that.

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    Who had the better game: Jack 25p 7a or Murphy 22p 15r? Jack continues to impress. Murphy continues to earn his pay.
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    BRush has been way off on the offensive end these last couple of games. Why he took that last 3pt shot attempt is beyond me. I know that he was wide open....but was that play drawn up that way for him to take that shot? At that point, I would have much rather have had Marquis take a 3pt shot then BRush.

    His confidence on the offensive end has really been down lately....I didn't see him hit one shot in the 2nd half of the game.

    For once, our Defense really was effective AT THE END OF THE GAME when it really mattered. At the 7:18 mark of the 4th QTR, we were down 92-101....for the rest of the game, we went on a 14-5 run to close out the game. They scored 4 points in 7+ minutes.

    There was a sequence in there somewhere where both teams went back and forth on possessions where each team missed a whole bunch of easy shots.

    Again, we beat another Team that we should be beating...on the road no less. It was an ugly game....but it was a solid win......we trailed for the majority of the game where we only was up by a few points in the 2nd QTR and somehow pulled out a win at the last second. This was a good win. We actually came back from behind to get the win.

    Duke, I think that Jack should get the Game winning Ball.....he was clutch at the end hitting key shots and FTs to keep us in the game.
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