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    Barring a huge rally, it seems like the playoffs may not occur this year.

    Therefore, what if the Pacers landed a top 3 pick in the draft this year? Would you want to keep the pick or trade it for a younger up-and-coming player like a Jeff Green or someone similar? Let's say we landed the 2nd pick. Would you be comfortable taking a rookie or maybe moving down a little bit in the draft or taking a future 1st too?

    Just curious what the thoughts were in moving forward or if we were fortunate enough to land a top pick.

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    According to Chad Ford who lists the draft from what he hears from scouts, etc. I like the top three supposed picks. So I wouldn't trade them.

    1] Blake Griffin
    2] Greg Monroe
    3] Ricky Rubio
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...draftyear=2009

    Blake Griffin
    Power Forward (Rank: #1) | 6-10, 245 | Age: 19
    Oklahoma (Sophomore)
    Hometown: Edmond, OK

    Summary:
    Feb 6 Update: The consensus No. 1 pick in the draft, Griffin has excellent athleticism and toughness and an NBA body. He is a great rebounder and has also become a vastly improved offensive player this season. While he may not have the superstar potential of a Kevin Durant or Greg Oden, his willingness to bang down low and do the dirty work has won him fans in NBA circles.

    Athletic big man
    Great wingspan
    Big, soft hands
    NBA body
    Tough
    Physical
    Strong
    Explosive leaper
    Excellent motor
    Finishes at the rim with authority
    Creative in finding ways to score
    Decent ball handler for his size
    Tenacious rebounder
    Crashes offensive boards

    Negatives:

    Lacks polished offensive skills
    No real post moves yet
    Shaky jump shot
    Poor free-throw shooter
    An uncommitted defender
    Relies mostly on strength and athleticism
    Injury concerns about knees
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    Greg Monroe
    Power Forward (Rank: #2) | 6-11, 250 | Age: 18
    Georgetown (Freshman)
    Hometown: Harvey, LA

    Summary: Feb 6 Update: On pure talent and potential, Monroe is the top prospect in the draft -- his combination of size and skill is rare. However, the key difference between Griffin and Monroe is production versus potential. While Griffin dominates virtually every night, Monroe is still inconsistent -- some nights he looks fantastic, other nights ... not so much. While it's doubtful he can catch Griffin for the No. 1 spot in the draft, it's hard to see him falling out of the top three right now.

    Big man with NBA body
    Excellent athlete
    Lefty
    Long, 7-foot-2 wingspan
    Can score from anywhere
    Good jump shot
    Strong back-to-the-basket game
    Excellent ball handler
    Quick first step
    Basketball IQ

    Negatives:

    Doesn't always play with great intensity
    Isn't a gritty rebounder
    Needs to add strength
    Lacks toughness
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    Ricky Rubio
    Point Guard (Rank: #3) | 6-4, 180 | Age: 18
    Spain ()
    Hometown: Barcelona, Spain

    Summary: Jan 15 Update: Rubio has been on NBA radar screens for years. But it was his solid play against Team USA in the Olympics that convinced NBA scouts and players that he had the goods to make it in the league. A wrist injury kept him out of action for the first month of the season, but he's slowly finding his way on the court. His scoring is down, but his assists are up; he recorded an impressive 12 assists in his most recent game. While there are legitimate questions about Rubio's draft eligibility this year -- he has a large buyout with his team, DKV Joventut -- I'm told he will likely declare for the draft and come to the NBA as long as he's a top-three pick. Given the need for point guards at the top of the draft, that seems like a safe bet.

    Great size for position
    Long wingspan
    Amazing playmaker, fantastic anticipation
    Incredible basketball IQ
    Flair for the spectacular
    True floor leader
    Fearless, tough
    Crafty at getting to the basket
    Decent midrange jump shooter
    Good production at young age

    Negatives:

    Lacks deep range on his jumper
    Lacks explosiveness athletically
    Below-average lateral quickness
    Needs to add strength

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    I would be all about Rubio, but from everything I have heard it sounds like he is not coming out this year. Griffin would be a no brainer.

    Draft Express has Griffin, James Harden, and Jordan Hill as their top three.

    I'm not sold on Greg Monroe.

    I may be the only person who thinks this, but I think PG is still the big need over PF. I would take Griffin number #1 still, but if it were #2 or #3, I would be interested in possibly trading down a few spots to grab Brandon Jennings.

    If you trade down you might be able to snag a later pick and get a blue collar PF, like Dejaun Blair. I think that is more the type of Power Forward we need anyway.
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    If the Pacers get the 1st pick, draft Griffin ( duh ).

    If the Pacers get the 2nd pick, see if we can trade down to the 3rd or 4th pick ( assuming that the 3rd or 4th pick isn't interested in Hill but somoene like Harden ) to get Hill at a lower pick while picking up some assets ( if that is at all possible ).

    If the Pacers get the 3rd pick and Hill is off the board, I would trade down a spot or two to try to draft Jennings.
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    I may be the only person who thinks this, but I think PG is still the big need over PF. I would take Griffin number #1 still, but if it were #2 or #3, I would be interested in possibly trading down a few spots to grab Brandon Jennings.
    I'm hoping that if Jennings is available, that would lessen the need to resign Jack but allow us try to sign some additional Frontcourt PF help.
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    Rubio IS gonna be the next Pete Maravich/ Magic Johnson ... in my opinion ..
    He is simply amazing ..

    WHOEVER gets him , is gonna have a franchise player for many years to come ..

    I just hope that "IF" the Pacers were to get lucky and get a lottery pick, that if he was still on the board, we would be smart enough to pick him .. and run like hell ...
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    Heard Monroe described as the most cerebral of the upcoming draft's big men.

    If he is, maybe Roy has some insight (Georgetown connection)?

    Mind + that body = Dominant

    The big question is, does he want to be?

    I'm quite impressed by Hill, but if we had the chance, Griffin... no question.

    Wouldn't be saddened to trade back though if it meant still getting Hill and dumping Tinsley.

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    If we got one of the top picks I'd be really reluctant to trade it... Only if a really good deal came along.

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    Did Blake become a super hero or something?

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    Is Rubio really that good? Haven't seen him before.

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    Did Blake become a super hero or something?
    Whoops! That I better edit! (snort)

    Done.

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    1. Rubio
    2. Griffin
    3. Harden
    4. Thabeet

    Those would be my top four. I don't understand the hype around Monroe. To me, he doesn't even have all-star potential. He'll be an okay player, but definitely not lottery worthy.

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    By the way, say we go BPA

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    Rubio IS gonna be the next Pete Maravich/ Magic Johnson ... in my opinion ..
    He is simply amazing ..

    WHOEVER gets him , is gonna have a franchise player for many years to come ..

    I just hope that "IF" the Pacers were to get lucky and get a lottery pick, that if he was still on the board, we would be smart enough to pick him .. and run like hell ...
    Agreed although I think he is more of a Steve Nash without the Jumper but more athleticism and defense along with better slashing ability.

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