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    take a shot at either Jermaine O'Neal or Rick Carlisle? You can take it as either of them or both but when asked about his thoughts on the Pacers Al said (paraphrasing here) that they are much improved because they don't just have one player that they throw it down to and everyone else stands around and watches. He then went on to say that O'Briens offense is one he would really enjoy playing in.

    It was just a small part of what he said, but I thought that this was a direct shot at O'Neal. Diamond Dave thought it was a shot at Carlisle. We both agreed that it could have been either or both.

    Not that it really matters, but I thought it was kind of interesting getting some more thoughts from the players who were here at the time.

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    I listened to it. I thought it was geared towards O'Neal.

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    I think it was geared to mention both of them. Al has a tendency to run his mouth before he thinks especially considering the fact that he and JO are buddies off the court. Isn't Al wearing number 7 now because of JO? That's what I figured anyway.

    As far as Al wanting to play in O'Brien's system, that pretty much tells you all you need to know about OBie's coaching style.

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    Al Harrington has this huge ego for some reason, and I don't know why. What a drama queen he has become. I do have to agree with him though, regardless of whether he was taking a shot at Rick, JO, or both. While Carlisle is an excellent x and o coach, his style is so dull, boring, and predictable that I could barely stand to watch the Pacers towards the end of his tenure here. I am so glad he (Rick) is gone.
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    As far as Al wanting to play in O'Brien's system, that pretty much tells you all you need to know about OBie's coaching style.
    Yeah.

    I didn't see tonight's game, but based on history it's hard to take Al seriously on this. The only time he doesn't want everyone standing around and watching one player is if he's not the one player.

    He's never been the same since Zeke said those immortal words: "Darvin Ham."
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    Al Harrington has this huge ego for some reason, and I don't know why. What a drama queen he has become. I do have to agree with him though, regardless of whether he was taking a shot at Rick, JO, or both. While Carlisle is an excellent x and o coach, his style is so dull, boring, and predictable that I could barely stand to watch the Pacers towards the end of his tenure here. I am so glad he (Rick) is gone.
    I have a feeling the real problem to blame for that left after Rick had already departed the Pacers bench.

    Maybe it was Carlisle's problem for not finding a different way to utilize that problem that would be successful and keep the problem happy.

    I didn't hear Harrington's comments so I have no idea which way his comments were aimed but at this point, does it matter to the greater point?

    The all JO all the time offense was no fun for anyone... except JO... apparently.

    Now, if it was successful but no fun then I'd just say STFU Al... But it was far from successful, instead it was a giant chemistry killer and an era of the Pacers that I'd mostly just as soon forget. If it wasn't for Reggie that era could be forgotten entirely as far as I'm concerned.

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    Default Re: Did anybody hear Harrington in the post game show

    Since he only mentions coaching and not players, its a shot at Rick.

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    Yeah.

    I didn't see tonight's game, but based on history it's hard to take Al seriously on this. The only time he doesn't want everyone standing around and watching one player is if he's not the one player.

    He's never been the same since Zeke said those immortal words: "Darvin Ham."


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    Judging from his behavior after the Golden State game immediately after the trade, It was a shot at Rick...

    While Stephen Jackson and the other former Pacers went out of their way to exchange words, handshakes and oddly enough.. a hug with coach Carlisle for some time after the final horn, Al had this smug look at Jackson as if he wouldn't be bothered. At the time, Seth and I were very surprised at this due to Jackson's behavior towards the same man when he was in a Pacer jersey.

    I know this isn't any kind of proof of Al's contempt for Rick Carlisle, but that small action told me what I needed to know.
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    Yeah it was a shot at Rick - similar to the things he said right after he was trade to G. State

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    He's never been the same since Zeke said those immortal words: "Darvin Ham."
    Man, I thought this was insightful but nobody seemed to twig to it. Is it so obvious as to be common and accepted fact, or is it to obscure?

    Or is my codependency showing?
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    Man, I thought this was insightful but nobody seemed to twig to it. Is it so obvious as to be common and accepted fact, or is it to obscure?

    Or is my codependency showing?
    Over my head, man.

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    Al didn't like Carlise, he didn't like Nellie. He liked Zeke. I'm not sure about Bird or Woodson (I think that was his coach in ATL). Too early for D'Antonio, either way.

    At some point, maybe it's on Al?

    At least it sounds like he doesn't hold a grudge.

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    Even if Harrington has opinions one way or another about Carlisle and or Jermaine O'Neal, and even it we know from previous stqtements and actions what he does or did think about them, none of us knows his motivation for making the comment last night. We can, however, see the truth of it.

    It is true that they used to "just have one player that they throw it down to and everyone else stands around and watches."
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    Man, I thought this was insightful but nobody seemed to twig to it. Is it so obvious as to be common and accepted fact, or is it to obscure?

    Or is my codependency showing?


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    Since he only mentions coaching and not players, its a shot at Rick.
    I agree. It takes a lot of imagination to think this is a shot at one of his better friends.

    He hated Rick's offense when he left, and he hated it when he came back.
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    I do have to agree with him though, regardless of whether he was taking a shot at Rick, JO, or both. While Carlisle is an excellent x and o coach, his style is so dull, boring, and predictable that I could barely stand to watch the Pacers towards the end of his tenure here. I am so glad he (Rick) is gone.
    It's been pretty well discussed on here about JO's blow up on the offense Rick tried only 9 games into the season.

    Rick was in charge of the offense under Bird, and that was anything but dull and boring. I wouldn't even call it predictable either, even though you knew Reggie was going off continuous screens.

    His offense is vastly different this year in Dallas than it was here, and when JO was out for extended period of times during the season, Rick made a lot of adjustments to his offense while in Pacer land, as well.

    Let's not pretend RC is a one trick pony, and needs a dump it to a post player and run it through them every play. He does have a lot of control in it, but due to the overall style he plays, it works, and has been shown to be very successful with it.

    After two seasons I still cannot understand how people are happy he is gone, considering the replacement that was brought in. Ugh.

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    I miss Rick Carlisle.

    He was a class act and a credit to the organization.

    After what he went through here, and the job he did dealing with such turmoil, we should be throwing him a parade, not throwing him to the wolves.
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    I miss Rick Carlisle.

    He was a class act and a credit to the organization.

    After what he went through here, and the job he did dealing with such turmoil, we should be throwing him a parade, not throwing him to the wolves.
    I'd love a parade.

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    Its the shoes! Its his new shoes, he believe he's MJ!
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    Really? His style of play obviously didn't work, he lost the team, you have to jet him at that point, and good riddance. Obie's an old school coach with horrible pieces, give him a much better team and he'll make you guys wonder what was he doing here, before you dismiss the fact that "oh he's just a bad coach with good players that make him look good like Doc Rivers".

    I honestly don't understand why the board loves Rick. He wasn't that good, he coaches in an unorthodox non-old school way, and can only last a few years.

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    JOb too good for the Pacers?

    Oh man, I think I'm gonna puke.

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    I honestly don't understand why the board loves Rick. He wasn't that good, he coaches in an unorthodox non-old school way, and can only last a few years.
    Rick's unorthodox, but Obie is old-school?

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