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    Default Insider Request: Would Pacers Gamble on Stoudemire?

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...Insider-090210

    Article by John Hollinger on ESPN.com

    It's the fifth point he makes, or something like that.

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    Default Re: Insider Request: Would Pacers Gamble on Stoudemire?

    I will gamble on him. He is a big name. It will sell tickets.

    Doodie. I am not an insider...can't read it.

    Could you quote it?

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    I will gamble on him. He is a big name. It will sell tickets.
    Will it sell enough tickets to overcome the luxury tax he would cost us?

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    Will it sell enough tickets to overcome the luxury tax he would cost us?
    Dont think so.

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    Will it sell enough tickets to overcome the luxury tax he would cost us?
    Not sure.

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    Not sure.
    If it will, I'm all for it, as long as we don't give up too much.

    Otherwise, there's no point.

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    Default Re: Insider Request: Would Pacers Gamble on Stoudemire?

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...Insider-090210

    by John Hollinger, ESPN.com

    4. Speaking of my bandwagon players, Ramon Sessions was huge in the Bucks' win over Houston last night, which takes us to an interesting point -- the Bucks probably need to make a deal at the trade deadline if they want to keep Sessions and Charlie Villanueva.

    Both players are restricted free agents, but the Bucks are already committed to Michael Redd, Richard Jefferson and Andrew Bogut to the tune of $41 million. To keep Sessions and Villanueva and stay under the tax (and Milwaukee likely needs to be well under, given its status as a small-market team with an older arena), the Bucks seemingly need to find a buyer for Jefferson -- the only one of the three who is healthy.

    Alternatively, the Bucks can trade Sessions or Villanueva right now. That's why the whispered deal with Memphis for Mike Conley made sense -- the Grizzlies' point guard hasn't played as well as Sessions, but he's under contract for next year at a reasonable number.

    5. Nobody seems to be talking about it, but one team that could put together a pretty solid deal for Amare Stoudemire is Indiana. The Pacers can put together $15 million in expiring deals with Marquis Daniels and Rasho Nesterovic, plus youth (Brandon Rush and/or Roy Hibbert) and a likely lottery pick.

    Two problems for Indy: It may be too costly for the Pacers' liking -- it would push them near tax territory before they signed anybody for next season's roster, and given their attendance and market size I can't imagine they're eager to take on more payroll. And with the Pacers' efforts to replace their troublemakers with team-first types, they might not be too interested in Stoudemire's "Standing Tall And Talented" persona.

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    Default Re: Insider Request: Would Pacers Gamble on Stoudemire?

    it's not only the luxury tax...its that big fat refund check you get for NOT paying it.

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    Default Re: Insider Request: Would Pacers Gamble on Stoudemire?

    Hollinger nailed it.

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    I agree with that wholeheartedly. As a fan I'd love it to happen. But if I'm the owner it'd be a lot harder.
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    Thank you, mellifluous!!!

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    I feel like the Suns would have to take either Murphy, Dunleavy, or Tinsley for us to be able to absorb STAT's contract. They'd never do it, but they seem to be going for half-court ball, and Tinsley would be great with that team in a backup role. Also, Murphy would really open up the floor for Shaq.

    But again, Phoenix is trying to rid themselves of long-term debt, so I'd say there's no way a deal can get done that both teams are happy with.

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    I know it could be hard, and I'm one of those that thinks that getting the fans back is the most important thing...

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    Even if we don't make a move... it's nice to know that this team finally has some options.

    The moves this summer and the emergence of Danny Granger have made this a completely different Pacers team interest wise

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    Even if we don't make a move... it's nice to know that this team finally has some options.

    The moves this summer and the emergence of Danny Granger have made this a completely different Pacers team interest wise
    Yes, we have options, but only for the next week or so until the deadline. When we get past the trade deadline, those 2 expiring contracts will do exactly that, expire. And nobody will be knocking at our door to sign and trade them. The time to do something is NOW, or you miss the window of opportunity. It's just that simple, really.

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    Murph+Jack+Rush+unprotected 1st and a 2nd for STATS and scrub

    Murph deal is probably a deal killer but that's the only way not to affect our financial too much. I think Phx gets decent talent that would fit them well

    but frankly they'd better change their coach before moving their young All Star PF...

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    I'd say no if we have to give up too much and our two youngsters and a 1st rounder along with the expirings is just too much. I'd go with one youngster, one big expirer and either a second expirer or our 1st rd pick.

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    Yes, we have options, but only for the next week or so until the deadline. When we get past the trade deadline, those 2 expiring contracts will do exactly that, expire. And nobody will be knocking at our door to sign and trade them. The time to do something is NOW, or you miss the window of opportunity. It's just that simple, really.

    -- Steve --
    agreed it's now or never.

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    I'm OK with getting Amare if it means sending Amare out this summer for something or someone better.
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    Yes, we have options, but only for the next week or so until the deadline. When we get past the trade deadline, those 2 expiring contracts will do exactly that, expire. And nobody will be knocking at our door to sign and trade them. The time to do something is NOW, or you miss the window of opportunity. It's just that simple, really.

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    Oh I definitely hope we make a deal, and agree that we need to use our expirings, just wanted to state that it's nice to have some pieces that intrigued multiple teams.

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    if the trade with Tinsley goes trough I would say that the Pacers could make this deal, because next year they could have more expirings,I repeat if the Tinsley deal happens

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    if the trade with Tinsley goes trough I would say that the Pacers could make this deal, because next year they could have more expirings,I repeat if the Tinsley deal happens
    They would move Tinsley and Foster but retain Nazr plus expirer (depending on what we do with Felton)
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    Stoudemire's attitude would be my concern. It's always a red flag when these guys derail team success for personal gain. That may not be a totally fair assessment of this situation, but still, Stoudemire is in a great situation, and he's seemingly not happy.
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    Please no Amare Stoudemire.

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    Stoudemire's attitude would be my concern. It's always a red flag when these guys derail team success for personal gain. That may not be a totally fair assessment of this situation, but still, Stoudemire is in a great situation, and he's seemingly not happy.
    And it's as simple as that. Obviously he's a great talent, but wasn't the lesson of the past few years that it's about more than talent?

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