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    Default Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09





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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

    I'm rooting for the Cards for no other reason than they are the underdog. I hope its a fun game.

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    wow, 10 point or 14 point turnaround on one play! 10-10 or 14-10 to 7-17.

    That will be hard to make up.

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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

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    wow, 10 point or 14 point turnaround on one play! 10-10 or 14-10 to 7-17.

    That will be hard to make up.
    Especially hard to make up when the refs are calling BS roughing the passer and facemask calls. The roughing call was iffy. I could see that one going either way, but I thought it was really close and have seen them let MUCH worse go. The facemask however, was ridiculous because both guys had their hands in each other's facemasks but they only called the Arizona player.

    [edit]...and as I'm typing this Pitt is doing a nice job of shooting themselves in the foot with the safety...[/edit]
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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

    Fitzgerald is a freak of nature. He knew he was going to the house as soon as he caught it. Arizona should throw the kitchen sink at Ben on this drive. The Steelers D is tired. They are holding on almost every play, and getting caught too.

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    Absolutely unreal. Larry Fitzgerald is an absolute beast, and James Harrison is a scumbag. Beating up on a special teams player for no reason..what a douche.

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    Man the Cards picked a bad drive to play their worst D of the entire game. We're about to see how much of a beast Larry Fitzgerald really is. If any receiver can pull this off, he can.

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    It was a good game, although I think Arizona got some bad calls in the first half. The difference maker was the pick 6.

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    That was a very good game. Would've liked to have seen Warner get the ball into the end zone at the end just to see if Fitzgerald had one more freakishly athletic play in him.

    IMO Warner's the MVP even though AZ lost - they won't give it to him though.
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    It's a shame that football games can't be won or lost without help from the terrible refereeing -

    I miss the days of CLEAN, HONEST wins.

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    I'm surprised Warner's 'fumble' wasn't reviewed more thoroughly in the booth.

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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

    Great game if only Pittsburgh had covered the spread.

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    I'm surprised Warner's 'fumble' wasn't reviewed more thoroughly in the booth.

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    I'm not and I bet Mike Holmgren was thinking the same thing

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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

    That was a great game. Holmes's catch will go down as one of the best moments in Super Bowl history. I didn't really care who won, but am glad it turned out to be a hell of a game.

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    Absolutely unreal. Larry Fitzgerald is an absolute beast, and James Harrison is a scumbag. Beating up on a special teams player for no reason..what a douche.
    Harrison must have mistaken the special teams player for his girlfriend whom he slapped around last year.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_556530.html

    As you can see, he's pure class all the way.

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    Harrison must have mistaken the special teams player for his girlfriend whom he slapped around last year.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_556530.html

    As you can see, he's pure class all the way.
    Yeah, he should have been ejected after that play. He was holding that guy down while punching his back and then pushed his face 3-4 times and then knocked him down. I am betting he gets a very hefty fine for it. It is one thing to get riled up against someone your size who has been knocking you around all game, but he just pummeled one of Arizonas dime backs on a punt for no reason.
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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

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    Yeah, he should have been ejected after that play. He was holding that guy down while punching his back and then pushed his face 3-4 times and then knocked him down. I am betting he gets a very hefty fine for it. It is one thing to get riled up against someone your size who has been knocking you around all game, but he just pummeled one of Arizonas dime backs on a punt for no reason.

    I hope they suspend him for a couple of games at the start of next season too.
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    Default Re: Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - Super Bowl XLIII - 2/1/09

    Harrison is a scumbag. I have a lot of respect for the people who run the Steelers organization (Rooney family, coaching staff, etc.), but some of their players over the past few years have just absolutely rubbed me the wrong way.

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    It's a shame that football games can't be won or lost without help from the terrible refereeing -

    I miss the days of CLEAN, HONEST wins.


    I disagreed with the late hit call on Dansby, and the last fumble by Warner I thought maybe was a pass attempt, but according to the NFL supervisor of officiating on Mike & Mike this morning, it WAS reviewed in the booth and it WAS confirmed. It was odd that they had no on-the-field announcement to clarify things.

    Whining over officiating has always annoyed me except in the very few instances it was deserved (LJ 4 point play, Ted Valentine screwing IU in the final 4 over Duke in the 1992 are the main examples).

    I thought it was pretty well-officiated, well at least given the two overturned calls on replay. Instant replay in fact worked beautifully. they corrected confirmed the Holmes catch, the INT return, and saw that Ben didn't get in the end zone, and that Warner was passing (the earlier one).

    I know a lot of people found it annoying that there were so many holding calls, but there were lots of pass rushers being pulled to the ground by the neck, and I thought every one was pretty obvious.
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    After watching that Warner fumble at the end on my DVR a few times I'm willing to bet something or someone in the system dropped the ball on that. Either the notification to the refs that the play was to be reviewed was delayed and the Steelers snapped the ball in the confusion to end it.... or else the NFL made a decision that they didn't want to have another 'tuck rule' type decision settle a big game. I'm not saying it was a 'tuck rule' thing, only that they could see that different people might see the play differently depending on how you interpreted the rule and would prefer the Steelers just snap the ball to end it rather than letting it be reviewed and adding ammo to the various sides while it remained under review and would've been replayed over and over on TV during the game.

    To me, it looked like the ball stayed in Warner's hand even though the defender contacted him prior to his arm coming forward.

    One view seems to show the ball coming out early but that's because you see the contact and is what you expect, but I thought two other views showed it clearly stayed in his hand.

    Ultimately, it looked to me like it deserved a much longer look than it got. Doesn't the booth just take a quick look to decide if it warrants the ref on the field going under the hood for a thorough review? I just can't believe this didn't deserve that longer look. That's why I think there was a breakdown in communications somewhere... or a decision that they just didn't want the game 'marred' by a review in that situation.
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    Like I said above, I can let that roughing call slide. By the letter of the rulebook, they had to flag it. WHat makes it hard to stomach though is how many times they don't flag that and then they do in this game? The one that was inexcusable for me was the facemask I mentioned above. Both guys had ahold of each other's facemask, and only Arizona got called for it. On the replay you can clearly see the Pitt player grasping the facemask. In fact, the camera angle I saw shows the two players, right in front of the ref, WHILE he is throwing the flag. If anything, it should have been an offsetting penalty. Instead, Pitt got the completion AND yards tacked on to it. When you see things like this happen it opens the door for the woulda, shoulda, coulda game. Who's to know what happens after that play? Maybe Arizona intercepts the next pass, maybe Pitt throws a long TD, maybe they complete that drive for a TD instead of a FG. The point is when the refs take it out of the players hands, you will never be able to trust what would have happened had they made the correct call.

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    Some Arizona fans got a little bit extra from their telecast:

    http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/278448.php

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    It's not whining - just fact that it seems that most games are left up to the referees at the end instead of the players. I've seen it time and time again - the flags go up especially for the team who controls the momentum atm. I'm not bashing the Steelers in any way - they deserve the championship. I just wish the referee's didn't have so much swing on how the game will go momentum wise.

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    WTF

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    WTF
    Should have been booted and hope he is fined. Cause if he is not there is no justice in the NFL.

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