Thought I would bump this back up. The guy seems to be unhappy in Philly.
Would you want him? Do we have anything they would want? If we could get him would you go after Andre Miller to solidy our point issues?
Just looking for other peoples views on it. I really don't know enough about the guy other than he was pretty good a few years ago
TJ has been available enough. His injury has not been the problem.
I think Brand still has 5 years of 15 and 8 left...but his contract is very bad. He would tack on two more years to our sentence.
While I think we will have a new coach soon who could use his skills, I'd rather the Pacers find another PF to sit next to Roy. I would not cry, however, if we sent TJ and Murphy away for Brand and filler.
I wouldn't cry either, I'd be leading the mob with the pitch forks, tar, and feathers to Conseco. The Pacers have been saddled with 2 albatross contracts that will be expirings next year, why on earth do they need another one while trying to rebuild??
As much as I want to see Ford GONE, this isn't a trade for the Pacers to pursue. If you want to go after a PF, then Landry will be available as a UFA after this season for a lot less money than Brand while basically providing the same #s.
Elton Brand...No way in hell.
Makes too much, often injured. I think the Pacers should stay away from overpaid players to dress in street clothes for fear of JO flashbacks.
Not sure how this team will return to being a serious contending team, but I don't think Bird can get the team in the right direction. Even MJ isn't a great judge of talent. That just tells you how difficult drafting and even making trades can be.
No way......Brand has lingering injury concerns, is getting older and has a very bad contract.
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No. If we're still looking at the same standing at the end of the season, there will be plenty of quality PFs to look forward to in the Draft that conceivably could make as much of an impact, if not more, as present-day Brand.
I'd keep Danny and Mike off the trade market. Especially Danny.
Elton Brand's career jumped the shark a long time ago. No way in hell should we blow our capspace on a washed up 30 year old.
lol... We shoulda got Iverson , traded around and got TMAC, then went after Brand..
We woulda had a starting 5 of
Hibbert/and whoever we had left..lol
lol im half serious... even though I know we could never afford TMAC AND Brand, let alone be able to keep our core.. but some of you gotta admit, that , that team would be very very entertaining to watch.. on paper at least .. WOW.. that team would rock.. but in reality , it probably looks better on paper..lolz
I bet that team would kick a$$ and take names in NBA2k10 lmao.. ima have to try it for sh*ts and gigglez..
Pass. Early returns might be good, but come the middle of that deal, we'd be ready to move him, and no one wants to take on a superstar, cap killing contract attached to a deteriorating player, unless it's expiring.
gotta pass on brand. he is fading pretty quickly and making big bucks. this would be like bringing j.o. all over again except this time we never get to see him in his prime. that was several years ago.
this offseason, we need to look for a p.g. badly, VERY badly.
Everyone on this garbage team should be on the table. You can overanalyze all you want but this team is terrible.
But anyway, no, I still wouldn't want to take a chance on Elton Brand.
I like Danny a lot, maybe things would change if he had better teammates. It is hard to tell. O'Brien giving him the green light to hack is just terrible for his career and his longer term development.
The same was said about Pau Gasol while with Memphis. Three years later and he's arguably the best power forward in the league.
Lesson of the story? It's silly to blame a single player for an entire team's underwhelming play. It was only a few seasons ago that Kobe Bryant's Lakers won 34 games. Wade, LeBron - hell, even Jordan - all played on bad teams in their careers.
What's strange is that you were just in the post-game thread talking about how sub-par the Pacers' talent level is, so surely you understand this?
Last edited by Lance George; 12-27-2009 at 12:43 AM.
Of course I understand, which is why I said not all of this is Danny's fault, he needs guys around him.
Right now, Danny and Shareef's career trajectories look quite similar. All I can discern from this is that Granger, like most players, can't put a team this bad on his back and do everything, so JOB should be playing him within, not without, an offensive system.
Hopefully we surround Danny with a Top 5 pick and a good player we get from our expirings in the next couple of years.