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    If by the trade deadline, the pacers haven't turned the corner and started winning consistently then we need to trade Foster.

    Look I know alot of people love Foster, I love him too. But I love the Pacers more. This teams needs a defender, somebody who can lock down the paint, guard the opposing teams best PF/C. We all know Foster has value. Any team would love to have his production and contract. So you could literally set up any number of deals that include foster and an expiring like Daniels or Rasho.

    Additionally we've already seen in limited minutes McRoberts is way more athletic, and in my opinion potential to be a better defender. He can be a gritty energy player in the same vein as Foster is now. He only needs to get fouls under control. Better trade Foster now while he has value. Cause he is clearly going to decline in production over the next several years. It makes no sense to hold on to a player who will continually get worse.

    So if this team hasn't developed by the trade deadline, which really would be a good bench mark anyway because we are just staring to get healthy again. Then its time to cash in some value. Start developing McRoberts to be Foster 2.0, and go get that defensive stopper.

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    Default Re: The official Trade Foster by deadline thread.

    I'm hoping some sort of deal happens before the trade deadline, and it doesn't even have to involve Foster.



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    I like Fosters game.

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    should have traded foster by last year's trade deadline

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    I liked his game back when we were a halfcourt team a few years ago. But he does not fit in this system. He doesn't have the lateral quickness or athleticism to recover on defense. I also don't like how they run the offense through him on the elbow. He can't consistently hit an open jumper. That offensive formation rely's on drawing the opposing teams big out from under the basket so you can open up the lane for slashers. Teams don't respect Jeff's jumper, thats why you see centers and PF playing 3-4 feet off him when he gets the ball towards the top of the key.

    Atleast they have adjusted and with the hand the ball off to Danny on the high screen. But the point is, its so predictable.

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    He's a great player for us and all, but he just doesn't fit well scheme wise. I think some contender would want a guy like Foster and I believe we would like to either get a nice young piece to go with the young developing core we already have or a descent draft pick.

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    Why would anyone look to acquire Foster? He has 3 years left on his contract. It's tough to trade someone who's current contract goes through 10-11 and is getting paid just a little more than his worth.

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    Theboyjwo

    Using some of your thoughts from your first post, I have some questions.

    1. You suggest that we should trade Foster now because "he is clearly going to decline in production over the next several years".

    Here's the questions... If you're the other teams GM why would you be interested in a player whos skills will clearly decline over the next several years?

    2. You suggested that we trade him for "somebody who can lock down the paint, guard the opposing teams best PF/C".

    Here's the question... Again, you're the other teams GM, why trade away a lock down interior defender? Why trade away a position that most teams have trouble filling?

    Now combine your 2 thoughts....

    You seriously think anyone is going to trade away their best interior defender for a guy whos skills will nose dive the next couple of seasons?

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    I don't get why we need to trade Foster. He's a solid Backup Big Man that fits what this team is trying to do......the problem is that he's being used as a Starting Center that is playing far more minutes that he probably should be playing.
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    Theboyjwo

    Using some of your thoughts from your first post, I have some questions.

    1. You suggest that we should trade Foster now because "he is clearly going to decline in production over the next several years".

    Here's the questions... If you're the other teams GM why would you be interested in a player whos skills will clearly decline over the next several years?

    2. You suggested that we trade him for "somebody who can lock down the paint, guard the opposing teams best PF/C".

    Here's the question... Again, you're the other teams GM, why trade away a lock down interior defender? Why trade away a position that most teams have trouble filling?

    Now combine your 2 thoughts....

    You seriously think anyone is going to trade away their best interior defender for a guy whos skills will nose dive the next couple of seasons?

    Wow!

    Now this is a fine example of pure logic that even Mr. Spock himself would
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    Pretty hard to argue with that.

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    Foster is not going to be traded. Hes a hard worker and does everything the Pacers ask him to do. Hes not our #1 option at PF/C, but with the current roster he is forced to be a starter. Give it some time, once we can get a starting C, Foster will come off the bench and be that energy guy we need
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    I'm hoping some sort of deal happens before the trade deadline, and it doesn't even have to involve Foster.


    Why is everybody so excited to see Tinsley traded? What's even the point? The trade isn't gonna help the team, and if people really aren't paying attention the team because he's still on the "roster" then they aren't going to do it once he is gone.

    It's a non-issue at this point to me. If we do move him, I'm fully expecting it to be for a contract just as horrid belonging to a player who probably won't be a part of the regular rotation.

    Is the trade of Tinsley that symbolic to some of you? He hasn't been a Pacer as far as I'm concerned since Bird basically exiled him 7-8 months ago.

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    Why is everybody so excited to see Tinsley traded? What's even the point? The trade isn't gonna help the team, and if people really aren't paying attention the team because he's still on the "roster" then they aren't going to do it once he is gone.

    It's a non-issue at this point to me. If we do move him, I'm fully expecting it to be for a contract just as horrid belonging to a player who probably won't be a part of the regular rotation.

    Is the trade of Tinsley that symbolic to some of you? He hasn't been a Pacer as far as I'm concerned since Bird basically exiled him 7-8 months ago.
    If we could have traded Tinsley for Hunter and Atkins we would have had expiring contracts one year before Tinsley was done...

    So there is a point in trading him. Getting that salary off our books one year sooner
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    The Pacers just signed to a 2 year extension because Foster brings it every night. He's a good locker room guy and could play 20 minutes a night for any team in the league. There are 2 reasons to make a trade before the deadline. 1. Your not going to make the playoffs and your seeking young talent or draft picks for the future. 2. You are going to the playoffs and you need to strengthen a weak spot on your team without giving up a core part of your team. Foster and the Pacers are neither of these at this point. We are 4 games out of the 8 spot. Losing so many games by 3 points or less we could be 1 player away from being a 4-5 seed had we had that player from the beginning of the season (Dunleavy)

    The Pacers need to package Tinman (if possible) + an expiring to bring a really good SG or PF who has a solid post game, because B.Rush is not ready and Graham is a backup. We need a player that can light it up from 3 or score inside. I don't know who that would be.

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    Default Re: The official Trade Foster by deadline thread.

    No

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    Default Re: The official Trade Foster by deadline thread.

    As long as we don't move Old Reliable too - that guy is gold.

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    There are just some responses one expects/predict to see when reading a thread title. Now, if I can just predict those 6 winning #'s tonight.

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    If we could have traded Tinsley for Hunter and Atkins we would have had expiring contracts one year before Tinsley was done...

    So there is a point in trading him. Getting that salary off our books one year sooner
    I don't believe that was ever a real deal. Just Vescey creating a stir.

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    Foster is not going to be traded. Hes a hard worker and does everything the Pacers ask him to do. Hes not our #1 option at PF/C, but with the current roster he is forced to be a starter. Give it some time, once we can get a starting C, Foster will come off the bench and be that energy guy we need

    Put me down for the trade. I suggested the other day that we needed to move Foster so he no longer was a bandaid the team could apply... then a few days later Peck essentially suggested the same.

    We're going to have trouble finding that starting center you talk about, particularly if you realize he isn't going to fall into our laps as a ready-made player. We might be able to get a guy with size and height, but we'll have to develop him in all likelihood. As long as Foster is here, we'll keep going back to Foster because he does give his all and we'll need patience to bring a developing center along. But his all isn't good enough. Especially as a starting C. Meanwhile, our center prospects will not get the minutes we need (or they'll stay on the draft board/FA pool).

    Maybe it's hard to sit a guy like Foster when he's giving his all, but you can't give him the minutes we do and put him in the situations we put him in. ...Yet we keep doing it. There's a reason Foster always loses his starting job to begin with (edit: to start each season).

    If we could use him situationally it would be great.... but we try and stretch his contributions past what he can comfortably contribute. I'm now of the belief that as long as we have Foster we're not going to be looking hard enough to find/develop the real interior presence we need.

    ...And of course his defense is very overrated to begin with...
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    If anyone thinks that McBob will give us everything that Foster does and more needs to watch Foster play the entire time he is on the floor. Last night Scola was tearing us apart and they finally made the switch from Murph to Foster and Foster pressures Scola into passing the ball. He sinks and hedges better than any front court player we have.

    And I don't care if he is our starter. All I care is that he is in the game late when we have a lead.

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    Default Re: The official Trade Foster by deadline thread.

    If only he wasn't so liked, we could trade him for an asset to the future.

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    I'm a huge fan of Foster. I'm not sure that everybody realizes just how important those extra posessions are that he gives us when he's crashing the offensive boards. He's so active and gets the other team really frustrated when he's on the court, and he does a lot of things that go unnoticed to most people. Taking charges, tipping the ball, diving for loose balls, he wants the rebounds more than anyone else on the court. I'd much rather see him get a good amount of minutes coming off the bench instead of starting, but I don't want to see him get traded.

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    Yeah lets trade one of the few guys who really enjoys living in Indiana and WANTS to stay with our franchise and is commited to turning it around, lets trade him.
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    I think Foster is a much needed asset to this team. He may not be a consistent scorer, but he comes in and plays defense when we desperately need it. By no means am I calling him a specialist, but he is our guy.

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