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  • Trade Deadline 2009

    figured i'd just save us the trouble of 107 different threads and just keep various rumors and such in here.

    i'll start.

    on top of the miami rumors that we've been hearing about JO, today we've got...

    Knicks GM Donnie Walsh gives Eddy Curry time and sympathy
    Frank Isola (NY Daily News)

    ...The Knicks are not expected to make a move with Marbury until after the trading deadline. A deal seems unlikely, but with teams such as Detroit and Toronto struggling there is a chance the Pistons would deal Allen Iverson or the Raptors would trade Jermaine O'Neal for Marbury.

    LINK
    Breaking down the Dallas Mavericks' tradeable commodities
    Eddie Sefko (Dallas Morning News)

    ...It's still possible – maybe even probable – that Stackhouse will be dealt. But he may have to be packaged to make something work.

    Deals that might fit: To Sacramento with Erick Dampier for Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas; to Golden State with Brandon Bass for Stephen Jackson; to Chicago with Bass for Andres Nocioni; to Minnesota with Bass for Mike Miller; to Toronto with Dampier for Jermaine O'Neal.

    LINK
    another former pacer is being mentioned as a possibility for miami...

    Kings keep options open in regard to Natt
    Sam Amick (Sacramento Bee)

    ...the Kings are closely watching the current trade talks between Miami and Toronto. If Raptors forward Jermaine O'Neal doesn't go to the Heat for small forward Shawn Marion, the Kings could be the benefactor.

    The Heat, numerous league sources said, has had recent talks with the Kings and offered Marion for center Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas. But Miami also wants the Kings to take Marcus Banks, the little-used, sixth-year point guard who has this season and next remaining on his contract for a combined total of $5.1 million.

    Miller and swingman John Salmons remain the most likely significant players to be traded. According to a source close to the team, Portland is among the many teams that has expressed interest recently as well.

    LINK
    This is the darkest timeline.

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    Re: Trade Deadline 2009

    Jackson=Nocioni?????? Crazy trade rumors.

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      Re: Trade Deadline 2009

      Trade Watch: Top PGs on the block

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      By Chad Ford
      ESPN.com
      Archive

      With the Feb. 19 trade deadline fast approaching, trade talk will get hotter and hotter over the next few weeks.

      There are multiple motivations for pulling a trade-deadline deal. A few contenders are looking for the missing piece to put them over the top. Some teams are looking to avoid paying the luxury tax or trying to get under the cap for this summer or the more coveted summer of 2010. And other teams are just looking to build for the future.
      Shopping For Point Guards

      Chad Ford breaks down five teams who are shopping for point guards at the deadline, including the L.A. Lakers. Insider

      Trade Machine: Propose a deal
      Rumor Central: Latest trade talk


      After spending weeks on the phone trying to get a handle on which players are available, we've put together a list of who could be moved before the trade deadline -- not the easiest task since most general managers claim that no one on their team is on the block -- they are just "listening" to other teams' offers.

      That means this information comes largely from two sources: GMs who tell us what other teams are offering them, and NBA player agents who often play important roles in getting their clients moved this time of year.

      While most of the players will not be moved by the trade deadline, if history repeats itself, several will.

      Today we start with one of the most coveted positions this time of year: point guards. We've ranked them in order of the likelihood they are moved by the trade deadline. In the coming days we'll roll out the top available wings and big men as well.

      Top PGs on the Block




      Raymond Felton, Bobcats
      Felton is a talented point guard, but he doesn't fit the pass-first mold that Larry Brown wants in his point guards. With rookie D.J. Augustin looking like the point guard of the future in Charlotte, the chances Felton heads somewhere else are pretty high.


      The Bobcats would like to get something for him before he hits restricted free agency this summer and have been shopping him since before the 2008 draft. They tried to swap Felton for T.J. Ford twice in June -- once with the Raptors and once with the Pacers. More recently, they almost had a deal completed with Dallas a few weeks ago, but an Augustin abdominal strain forced them to pull back. With Augustin feeling better and nearing a return, the Bobcats could be ready to pull the trigger again.

      Chance of trade: 75 percent





      Mike Conley, Grizzlies
      Some scratched their heads when the Grizzlies drafted Conley with the No. 4 pick in the 2007 draft. While Conley was a coveted draft prospect, the team was already loaded at the point guard position and it was unclear how he would fit. Eighteen months later, Conley still hasn't found his groove in Memphis.

      Conley is a good distributor and an excellent defender, but his shaky shooting has made him a liability. And with O.J. Mayo now dominating the ball, Conley is often left standing around on offense.
      The Grizzlies would like to move Mayo to the 1 or at the very least get another guard who can stroke the basketball. They turned down a Blazers offer of Travis Outlaw for Conley this past summer and have generally been looking for more. I'm not sure they'll be able to get it.
      A rumored trade of Ramon Sessions and Joe Alexander for Conley never materialized, in part because right now Sessions is a better player. But long term, Conley still has a lot of value in the right system.
      Chance of trade: 65 percent







      Earl Watson, Thunder
      Watson may not be the most talented player on the list, but there are two big reasons he is coveted. First, his contract expires in the summer of 2010. Second, the Thunder aren't asking for much.

      Oklahoma City has its point guard of the future, Russell Westbrook, and is primarily interested in getting below the cap. So an offer of an expiring contract or a young player who fills a need could get a deal done.
      Chance of trade: 55 percent







      Leandro Barbosa, Suns
      Barbosa has played an important role off the bench for the Suns for years, but the team is sputtering and just about everyone appears to be on the table in Phoenix. While Amare Stoudemire and even Steve Nash appear in trade rumors, Barbosa is the more likely target.

      Barbosa's diminishing role on the team is a telltale sign that head coach Terry Porter has lost faith in him. Still, Barbosa is young and has value: He isn't the pure point guard that some teams covet, but his scoring ability, energy and reasonable contract make him a hot name. It appears the Suns would be willing to part with him in return for a veteran who is more committed on the defensive end.
      Chance of trade: 50 percent







      Nate Robinson, Knicks
      It might surprise some to learn that Robinson is second only to rookie Danilo Gallinari in plus/minus for the Knicks at the moment. Watch a Knicks game and you'll see why. Robinson is well-suited for head coach Mike D'Antoni's up-tempo style and has played a critical role off the bench this season.

      The problem for the Knicks is that Robinson hits restricted free agency this summer and the Knicks aren't inclined to pay him. They are trying to free up as much money as possible for the summer of 2010 and Robinson isn't worth risking that flexibility to lose out on a shot at LeBron and friends. If the Knicks can get a future first-round pick for him or if they can use him to sweeten an Eddy Curry package for an expiring contract, they'll have to consider dealing him.
      Chance of trade: 40 percent







      Monta Ellis, Warriors
      Ellis' infamous mo-ped injury got him in hot water with Golden State, which is still holding out the right to terminate his contract if he doesn't fully recover. That hasn't sat well with Ellis' camp, which would jump at the opportunity to part ways.

      A lot of teams will have interest in Ellis if the Warriors want to cut ties. The problem for Ellis is that he's a base-year compensation player and will have to be part of a larger deal to be traded before the deadline.
      Chance of trade: 35 percent







      Jamaal Tinsley, Pacers
      There is no denying that Tinsley is on the block. The Pacers did not allow him to join the team during training camp and have been working with his agent, Raymond Brothers, to move him all season. According to all parties involved, Tinsley is totally healthy and in decent shape. Given his undeniable talent, that should have a number of teams seriously interested.

      However, the issue is twofold. One is his contract: Tinsley still has two years and $14.7 million left on his deal after this season. Second is the combination of his injury history and off-the-court track record. In the past six seasons, he has started more than 43 games only once. And his well-publicized off-the-court issues have given a number of teams pause. Still, Tinsley could be the answer for teams -- like Miami -- that are looking for help.
      Chance of trade: 30 percent







      Andre Miller, Sixers
      Miller may be the most attractive player on the list for two reasons. One, he's a very talented veteran who can immediately step in and contribute on a number of contenders. Two, he's in the last year of his contract, which means teams don't have to commit long-term.

      With the Sixers playing .500 ball and no longer looking like the title contenders we thought they were in the preseason, it might be time for the Sixers to make a move for the future. While Miller won't bring them back an All-Star in return, he could get them a future pick or another player who could help them down the road.
      It's not hard to see that the Sixers' future looks brighter with their youth, not their veterans. While Miller might be the first casualty, it's not inconceivable that Elton Brand is next.
      Chance of trade: 25 percent








      Baron Davis, Clippers
      After playing in all 82 games last season and securing a hefty contract from the Clippers, Davis is back on the shelf -- he hasn't played at all in January because of tailbone and hamstring injuries. With questions surrounding Davis' lack of motivation when his team is losing, who knows when he'll return from injury?

      I doubt Mike Dunleavy would hesitate to move him if he could. On the right team -- i.e., a contender -- Davis obviously has a lot to offer. But who's picking up that extra four years and $53 million on his contract? In this economic environment, the Clippers will struggle to find takers.
      Chance of trade: 15 percent







      Kirk Hinrich, Bulls
      By most accounts, Hinrich should be higher on the list. The Bulls have their point guard of the future in Derrick Rose, and Hinrich has real value in the league. The problem is, I don't think John Paxson can pull the trigger because he's a Hinrich fan. And, on a team that's loaded with youth, Hinrich is a rare veteran presence.

      I think the Bulls will most likely hang on to Hinrich for the rest of the season. However, the chances he gets traded will go up this summer, especially if there's a new GM running the show in Chicago by then.
      Chance of trade: 10 percent
      Others to watch: Marcus Banks, Heat; Jordan Farmar, Lakers; Jarrett Jack, Pacers; Stephon Marbury, Knicks; Sergio Rodriguez, Blazers; Marcus Williams, Warriors.
      "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

      - Salman Rushdie

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        Re: Trade Deadline 2009

        Interesting tidbit about Elton Brand. He would look good in a Pacers uni I think.

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        • #5
          Re: Trade Deadline 2009

          If Conley's defense and distribution are as advertised, I'd definitely take a look. Offensively though, there's probably no way he'll ever be better than Jack.

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            Re: Trade Deadline 2009

            Chad Ford talks about the Pacers a bit in his chat today...

            Chad Ford
            ESPN.com
            http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=24743

            Evan (Indianapolis): The Pacers have two expiring contracts available as trade assets (Rasho and Marquis Daniels' team option) as well as a potential 2009 lottery pick. Do you think they'll use them to acquire somebody or do you think they'll just take the cap relief and the draft pick?

            Chad Ford: (1:46 PM ET ) I think they are in a very good position to make a deal if they want to. Both of those expiring contracts are players that can actually help a team, which increases their value. They also have several role players like Jarrett Jack or even Mike Dunleavy or Jeff Foster to offer. The Pacers can go in just about any direction they want. They could be a big player at the trade deadline. My guess is that it will come down to ... can they get the big man the desperately need?


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              Re: Trade Deadline 2009

              Originally posted by dcpacersfan View Post
              If Conley's defense and distribution are as advertised, I'd definitely take a look. Offensively though, there's probably no way he'll ever be better than Jack.
              He may not ever have Jack's scoring potential, but I could see Conley being a Jose Calderon type PG. If he can play good perimeter defense, not turn the ball over, and initiate are drive & kick game with guys like Granger, Rush, and Dunleavy, he could be a very good starting PG for the Pacers. He's also a high character local kid. I'd be pretty excited if we wound up with him.

              The question for me is this: "What does Memphis want?" They're obviously trying to go young and build a team through the draft. Would they be interested in cap relief? Would we have to give up a 1st rounder to get Conley? Would they want Rush or Hibbert?
              Last edited by OakMoses; 01-27-2009, 02:32 PM.
              "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

              - Salman Rushdie

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                Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                [QUOTE=mellifluous;841327]He may not ever have Jack's scoring potential, but I could see Conley being a Jose Calderon type PG./QUOTE]

                This statement doesn't make much sense to me. Calderon is as good if not a better scorer than JJack is.

                I think Conley will eventually be good in the NBA. He reminds me of Billups in a way - not talent level but how Boston and Denver gave up on him early in his career and he ended up blossoming by his 5th and 6th seasons. I think it's going to take Mike a couple more years to reach his potential but I think he'll be as good as Andre Miller at the very least.

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                • #9
                  Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                  I think we'd have a real shot at Brand, and I think he'd pair really well with not only our offense, but also Hibbert and Rasho at C. With Murphy playing so well, and also having a shorter deal, in addition to being able to draw out interior defenders for their slashers, I could see Troy and Marquis (and maybe a future first, maybe a young player like Rush) getting it done. Of course, if the Sixers think Brand is going to revert to his Clippers numbers, there's no way they do that trade.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                    Originally posted by Eindar View Post
                    I think we'd have a real shot at Brand, and I think he'd pair really well with not only our offense, but also Hibbert and Rasho at C. With Murphy playing so well, and also having a shorter deal, in addition to being able to draw out interior defenders for their slashers, I could see Troy and Marquis (and maybe a future first, maybe a young player like Rush) getting it done. Of course, if the Sixers think Brand is going to revert to his Clippers numbers, there's no way they do that trade.
                    I think Brand is as done as JO is. He's in the post-knee surgery CWebb phase of his career, IMO. Once big guys have knee ligament surgeries, they're never the same especially when they have them later in their careers. The combination of miles logged and surgery has done in a lot of good Bigs.

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                      Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                      [quote=naptownmenace;841337]
                      Originally posted by mellifluous View Post
                      He may not ever have Jack's scoring potential, but I could see Conley being a Jose Calderon type PG./QUOTE]

                      This statement doesn't make much sense to me. Calderon is as good if not a better scorer than JJack is.
                      I think it has more to do with mentality than ability. In reality the numbers don't really show this, but Jack is a much more aggressive and effective scorer when he needs to be.

                      Jack was probably a bad example to use. Let's rephrase: Conley may not ever have Tony Parker's scoring potential, but I could see him being a Jose Calderon type PG.
                      "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

                      - Salman Rushdie

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                      • #12
                        Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                        There's some interesting players that can be had. Conley being from Indy would be great. If I could do a 2-2 deal with Memphis maybe include Deiner + other for Conley + other this would protect us if we lost Jack this summer. Conley would sell some tickets + having a big upside being only 21 yoa. His shooting percentages are not that bad. .424 fg .392 from 3 and 83% ft. These are actually better than either Jack or Ford. Trade for Conley I say.

                        Would you do this trade: 1st + Deiner + Baston for Conley , the pick most likely will be 12 - 18 not a strong draft this year unless your top 5.
                        Last edited by aceace; 01-27-2009, 04:00 PM. Reason: add
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                        • #13
                          Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                          I am for picking up Conley. He still has good upside and he has the youth factor still.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                            Conley? Brand? Forget that... the most interesting player on this list is Andre Miller.

                            EDIT: Of course, there's no easy way to get him. But still, he's the most interesting player out there for the Pacers.
                            Last edited by Anthem; 01-27-2009, 05:15 PM.
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                              Re: Trade Deadline 2009

                              Originally posted by aceace View Post
                              There's some interesting players that can be had. Conley being from Indy would be great. If I could do a 2-2 deal with Memphis maybe include Deiner + other for Conley + other this would protect us if we lost Jack this summer. Conley would sell some tickets + having a big upside being only 21 yoa. His shooting percentages are not that bad. .424 fg .392 from 3 and 83% ft. These are actually better than either Jack or Ford. Trade for Conley I say.

                              Would you do this trade: 1st + Deiner + Baston for Conley , the pick most likely will be 12 - 18 not a strong draft this year unless your top 5.

                              I like your trade, could you send your trade proposal to Bird? I would, but of late he hasn't been accepting my calls.

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