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Danny G getting some love (The Granger merged thread)

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  • #46
    Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

    Ideally:

    LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Howard, Paul, Deron, Roy, Granger, Millsap, Durant, plus one of Suckey/Rose and one of Oden/Lopez.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    • #47
      Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

      I thought the 2012 team was coming from the same preset pool from a few years ago? I trust Kstat so I guess I'm out of the loop on the Olympics situation for 2012.

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      • #48
        Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

        Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
        I thought the 2012 team was coming from the same preset pool from a few years ago? I trust Kstat so I guess I'm out of the loop on the Olympics situation for 2012.
        The pool only has a 3-year window. There will be a new pool selected next summer for an additional 3 years.

        It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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        • #49
          Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

          I don't know that you'll be able to write off Kobe or Carmelo in 3.5 years. They were too important in the last run.


          Chris Paul
          Kobe Bryant
          LeBron James
          Chris Bosh
          Dwight Howard

          Dwyane Wade
          Amare Stoudemire
          Deron Williams
          Carmelo Anthony

          The remaining 3 spots will be open.

          I'll take Greg Oden as interior defender, Derrick Rose as my 3rd PG, and the shooter spot is tough to call. Granger could get that but my money is on Durant.

          I'd like to see Granger on the team but I'd be surprised if it happened. Though if Coach K sticks around for another try I could see him falling in love with Danny.
          "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

          -Lance Stephenson

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          • #50
            Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

            NO NO NO NO NO! I do NOT want Granger playing in the summer! I don't care about the honor, he's taking 3 years off of his career if he does it.
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            • #51
              Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

              ...like Jordan and LeBron took 3 years off from their careers?

              In case you didn't notice, most players wind up having career years the season after they play in the olympics.

              This also might come as a shock, but although you may not care about Granger being honored by his country, he might....

              It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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              • #52
                Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                Kobe already committed to the World Championships in 2010 and the Olympics in 2012. He's a lock.

                It'll be interesting to see what Wade, Bosh, Lebron, and Amare do. It takes a three year commitment and all four of those guys will be looking for jobs in 2010. They'd have to play in the World Championships in Turkey while looking for a new team at the same time.
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                • #53
                  Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                  Originally posted by Anthem View Post
                  NO NO NO NO NO! I do NOT want Granger playing in the summer! I don't care about the honor, he's taking 3 years off of his career if he does it.
                  If you get the chance to compete for your country you do it. End of story in my mind.
                  "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

                  -Lance Stephenson

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                  • #54
                    Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                    Originally posted by BRushWithDeath View Post
                    If you get the chance to compete for your country you do it. End of story in my mind.
                    Exactly. It's incredibly selfish of people to deny someone a chance to compete for his country. There are bigger things in life than your local pro basketball team.

                    If Stuckey gets selected and gets hurt, I'm not going to curse the skies. You aren't any more likely to get hurt during the olympics than you are in the NBA, actually less so.

                    If one of my guys gets the chance of a lifetime to get a gold medal, I'll be happy for them, not bitter.

                    I'd like to think that we're all supposed to be americans above anything else. I can't fathom why anybody would value their hometown more than their country.
                    Last edited by Kstat; 01-22-2009, 02:54 PM.

                    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                      Originally posted by Kstat View Post
                      ...like Jordan and LeBron took 3 years off from their careers?
                      How much do you think the dream team practiced before the Olympics? And LeBron just turned 24. WAY too soon to use him as an example.

                      Originally posted by Kstat
                      In case you didn't notice, most players wind up having career years the season after they play in the olympics.
                      Actually, players who play in the Olympics often have far more injuries than those who don't. I'll go find the articles.

                      EDIT: Here's one. Not the one I'm looking for, but interesting.

                      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/sp...l?ref=olympics

                      Again, not the one I'm looking for, but interesting:

                      http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25026633/
                      Last edited by Anthem; 01-22-2009, 03:07 PM.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                        Originally posted by Anthem View Post
                        How much do you think the dream team practiced before the Olympics? And LeBron just turned 24. WAY too soon to use him as an example.


                        Actually, players who play in the Olympics often have far more injuries than those who don't. I'll go find the articles.

                        EDIT: Here's one. Not the one I'm looking for, but interesting.

                        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/sp...l?ref=olympics
                        ...and the ones that don't typically play their best basketball following an olympic appearance.

                        Howard, Wade and LeBron are all turning in career seasons this year, for example.


                        BTW, that article is bogus. Kaman was injury-prone long before china, and nocioni is on the downside of his career.
                        Last edited by Kstat; 01-22-2009, 03:07 PM.

                        It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                          I respectfully disagree, it is playing over multiple (consecutive) summers that begin to rob a player of his much-needed recovery time.

                          Playing one or perhaps two summers should be okay for Danny, if he's fortunate enough to be selected.

                          We Pacers fans are a little scared because JO had to play three straight summers, and was never the same after that.
                          Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                          Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                          Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                          Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                          And life itself, rushing over me
                          Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                          Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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                          • #58
                            Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                            Originally posted by BRushWithDeath View Post
                            Chris Paul
                            Kobe Bryant
                            LeBron James
                            Chris Bosh
                            Dwight Howard

                            Dwyane Wade
                            Amare Stoudemire
                            Deron Williams
                            Carmelo Anthony
                            Danny would be the best outside shooter on that roster. I like how all the talk has been about our national team not having any shooters, but then we don't really do anything to correct the problem. They threw Michael Redd on last year's team, but he couldn't get any PT because he wouldn't play defense.

                            I think Danny would be a better fit than Durant because he's more willing to do the little things and to fit into the team concept. I think that Danny would be fairly comfortable understanding the non-star role and embracing it than most players who'd be considered.
                            "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

                            - Salman Rushdie

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                            • #59
                              Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                              If Granger turned down playing for his country, I'd be concerned about his head. I think he is the kind of person that would eat that up.

                              I'd love to see him get a chance to do it too, and I think he would thrive in the international style.

                              What it comes down to for me, is that 50 years from now, there will be a lot of guys who said they were in the NBA, very few will be able to say they played for their country. If Danny walks out there and blows out his knee, I'll be upset, but not at him, just at the bad luck. Not playing in the Olympics when you are an American basketball player because you might get injured, would be like me not wanting to leave my house to go drive my car to the store. You play basketball, most of these guys probably have a deep memory of the dream team embedded in their heads, you go for it if you get the chance, and you do not look back.
                              Last edited by Trader Joe; 01-22-2009, 03:23 PM.


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                              • #60
                                Re: Granger on 2012 Olympic Team?

                                Originally posted by BRushWithDeath View Post
                                I don't know that you'll be able to write off Kobe or Carmelo in 3.5 years. They were too important in the last run.


                                Chris Paul
                                Kobe Bryant
                                LeBron James
                                Chris Bosh
                                Dwight Howard

                                Dwyane Wade
                                Amare Stoudemire
                                Deron Williams
                                Carmelo Anthony

                                The remaining 3 spots will be open.

                                I'll take Greg Oden as interior defender, Derrick Rose as my 3rd PG, and the shooter spot is tough to call. Granger could get that but my money is on Durant.

                                I'd like to see Granger on the team but I'd be surprised if it happened. Though if Coach K sticks around for another try I could see him falling in love with Danny.
                                Why is Amare a lock? I don't know, I'm not in love with him as a lot of other people, and I'm not really sure he fills any role on that team.

                                I think Coach K would absolutely love Danny's mentality if he was around him.


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