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    Unhappy 9th in the East for the third straight season

    I called this a while back, but it looks like we're going to finish with the 9th best record in the East again, for the third straight season. I seriously doubt we lose on Wednesday, and even if Charlotte wins as well (they lost tonight), we seem to have the tiebreaker over them (according to ESPN). This means we'll likely end up with the #13 pick.

    So, for the third straight season, we finish in the worst possible position (just outside of the playoffs). Blech.

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    Default Re: 9th in the East for the third straight season

    I thought tie breaker for draft position was a flip of the coin?

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    I thought tie breaker for draft position was a flip of the coin?
    It is for draft position, so we could possibly get the #12 pick. I'm not feeling lucky, though.

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    I thought tie breaker for draft position was a flip of the coin?
    Last time we were in a tie they chose a card from a ripped basketball if I remember right.

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    Default Re: 9th in the East for the third straight season

    Deja vue for 3 years straight.

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    Whatever the tiebreaker, it's completely Random.

    But why are you complaining about the #13th pick?

    Our last two #13's: Brandon Rush and Dale Davis.

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    Whatever the tiebreaker, it's completely Random.

    But why are you complaining about the #13th pick?

    Our last two #13's: Brandon Rush and Dale Davis.
    God, that draft looks better and better with each passing day. Jarrett Jack and Brandon Rush for Jerryd Bayless.

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    God, that draft looks better and better with each passing day. Jarrett Jack and Brandon Rush for Jerryd Bayless.
    I agree with this 100%. Bayless was excellent in the Summer League but when the season started he was hardly mentioned and is not really an effective player for Portland unlike Jack and BRush who start for us.
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    God, that draft looks better and better with each passing day. Jarrett Jack and Brandon Rush for Jerryd Bayless.
    If someone hears any loud noises, that may be them banging their heads on the table. Sweet trade for us!

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    Default Re: 9th in the East for the third straight season

    blazers need a player like Rush, Webster is out for awhile.

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    Default Re: 9th in the East for the third straight season

    Rush has looked better and better every game. Bayless has done nothing in Portland..

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    so because bayless is riding the bench behind more established players on a western conference team with 52 wins, he suddenly can't cut it...i only wish the pacers were in a similar position where they could have benched rush when he was shooting 30% for the first half of the season. the ONLY reason he has been able to put together a few games is because of the minutes and thus experience he's gained. pacers can afford that, portland can't.

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    It's a little too early to judge the Bayless deal, but at worst, it seems to be a trade that works out for both teams. I think Bayless will get his shot next year, as I think Rodriguez won't be there, and he can compete with Blake for the starting nod.

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    Rush is already better on defense than Bayless will ever be. Bayless will have to be near Arenas level on offense for me to call him better, and Arenas would not fit at all on that Portland team. I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential to be that good, but the Pacers need defense far more than another scorer.
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    I don't want this to turn into yet another Bayless thread, but I've said from the get-go that it's going to take Bayless 2-3 seasons to become a serious contributor. Rush is older and was supposed to be much-more NBA-ready than Bayless. And we may very well lose Jack this off-season. We haven't won the trade just yet.

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    I would probably do that trade right now. Rush is the real deal at SG and has the size to boot.

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    so because bayless is riding the bench behind more established players on a western conference team with 52 wins, he suddenly can't cut it...i only wish the pacers were in a similar position where they could have benched rush when he was shooting 30% for the first half of the season. the ONLY reason he has been able to put together a few games is because of the minutes and thus experience he's gained. pacers can afford that, portland can't.

    He can't beat out Sergio Rodriguez for the backup spot? Have you seen Sergio play? My grandma plays more defense than him and she's dead.. Get outta here with that logic...

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    blazers need a player like Rush, Webster is out for awhile.
    In all fairness, the Blazers don't really need anyone on the Pacers' roster not named Danny Granger. They're pretty loaded. They really didn't need Bayless or Rush. Either of those guys would be getting dealt some serious pine time on their deep roster this year.

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    I don't want this to turn into yet another Bayless thread, but I've said from the get-go that it's going to take Bayless 2-3 seasons to become a serious contributor. Rush is older and was supposed to be much-more NBA-ready than Bayless. And we may very well lose Jack this off-season. We haven't won the trade just yet.
    Well, you just keep your fingers crossed, and maybe it will blow up in our faces.

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    Shade, it's okay. Really.

    The planets in Pacers universe are getting really close to re-aligning again.

    Step back, and take a deep breath.

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    In all fairness, the Blazers don't really need anyone on the Pacers' roster not named Danny Granger. They're pretty loaded. They really didn't need Bayless or Rush. Either of those guys would be getting dealt some serious pine time on their deep roster this year.
    Not necessarily true. They are pretty deep in spots and very talented in some of those spots. But pg isnt one of those spots. Remember Blake went down for a spell this season. So Bayless got some play. More importantly he got some legit opportunities to play.

    I still think Bayless is gonna be stuck in no mans land when it comes to either being a pg or a 2 guard. And ironically with Brandon Roy on the team he could actually get by with that as Brandon can handle some of the pg duties, at the very least he allows tremendous flexibility.

    Ive said it before but the absolute best case scenario for Bayless is he ends up like Ben Gordon. Which certainly isnt bad. But Im not sure how likely it is he pans out that good.

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    Well, you just keep your fingers crossed, and maybe it will blow up in our faces.
    Why would I want that to happen? I'm much, much more of a Pacers fan than a Bayless fan. I hope Rush works out, and he's been playing pretty well of late. But I'm not convinced just yet. It's still way too early.

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    But I'm not convinced just yet. It's still way too early.
    Shade, you're better than that.

    Your rookie isn't getting garbage minutes. He is starting, scoring and defending. That just doesn't happen and go away. He will continue to get better. This guy isn't Shawne Williams.
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    Better than what? Bayless and Rush are both rookies. There is a LOT more to see from both of these guys before making any final judgments on either of them.

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    Better than what? Bayless and Rush are both rookies. There is a LOT more to see from both of these guys before making any final judgments on either of them.
    You've seen Rush play. You've seen him play with your own eyes. You're better than still having that doubt in the back of your mind 9 months later.

    I can't tell you to make reservations to say in the end that Rush will have a better career. I just don't see Bayless now being anything better than a backup.

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