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    Rockets' forward Ron Artest compared two of his old teammates recently and decided that Kings' guard Kevin Martin is better than retired Pacers' guard Reggie Miller.

    "When he (Kevin Martin) was there (in Sacramento), he was always working hard," Artest said. "When Reggie Miller left (Indiana when Artest played there), nobody really did the things that Reggie Miller did. I see a lot of Reggie Miller (in Martin). He's actually better than Reggie Miller, but the only thing Reggie had on him was he was a better team defender than Kevin."

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    He said a young Kevin Martin just entering his prime was better than the Reggie Miller he played with, 8 years past his prime...a slap to the face if I ever heard one.

    Next thing you're going to tell me Jonathan Bender schooled Larry bird in a shooting contest, therefore he's a better shooter than Bird.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Duffman says a lot of things.
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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    When did we start holding crazy people responsible for the things they say, anyway?

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Interesting. I figured Kstat would be on the other side of this debate.

    I'd sure like Kevin as a Pacer, I'll say that.
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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblings of a crazy man
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    I see a lot of Reggie Miller (in Martin). He's actually better than Reggie Miller, but the only thing Reggie had on him was he was a better team defender than Kevin."
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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    i love ronnie and i'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him. but lets not forget he's a crazy person. he says and does dumb things. he's a crazy person!

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    I looked up "Crazy" and this is what I found:



    Go figure.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by grace View Post
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    I looked up "Crazy" and this is what I found:



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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Martin is very good, but Miller's stats were better in his first 5 years.

    Games:

    Miller averaged over 80 games ...with 4 82 game seasons.
    Martin is injured right now and only played 61 games last season.

    Points: Relatively similar

    Martin's best: 23.7...scored only 2.9ppg his first year..although he was nearly 7 months younger coming into the league.

    Miller's best: 24.6...and never scored in single digits.

    3pt%: Relatively similar

    Martin's best: 40.2
    Miller's: best: 41.4

    FG%: Pretty big difference

    Martin is around 46% even though he had much better players on his team than Miller early on.
    Miller was around 50% with 3 of 5 seasons above 50%.

    FT%:

    Martin is around 84.5%
    Miller was around 87%

    Steals:

    Martin is around 0.9
    Miller was around 1.1

    Assist/TO

    Martin is 1.7/1.5
    Miller was 3.26/1.94

    Rebounds: only stat where Martin is better

    Martin is 3.6
    Miller was 3.26

    Blocks

    Martin is .1
    Miller is .2-.3

    Tack on the clutch factor and it's not close.
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    Doug say Artest is nuttier than a fruitcake.
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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Except Reggie wasn't clutch his first few seasons, he was a scoring ace much like Martin.

    I don't get the issue here. As mentioned Ron is comparing the versions he saw, and not only that but he gave Reggie the nod on team defense.

    Martin better than Reggie is not the story here one bit. Based on Ron's experience's it's semi-valid. The REAL issue is that the rumors were that Ron and Martin didn't get along in the least and that Martin didn't want to play on the same team with Ron after last year.

    Out of nowhere comes this amazing love for Martin. That's the true "typical Artest" to me. Next up, some huge praise for JO out of left field.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Whatever Ron says means nothing. He did not qualify anything with his mistaken statements. Nothing new.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    HE IS ARTEST. THERE IS NO CURE FOR THAT.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Reggie should come out and say that Croshere was better than Fruitcak..er..Artest.

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    Ronnie Artest IS THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Artest is not a team player.

    If he was, the Pacers would have rings.

    Artest puts himself first.

    Not going to sweat anything he says.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Martin > Miller?
    Granger > Martin
    Granger > Miller?
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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Artest said this so it must be true? The nut doesn't fall far...

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Come on, any Pacers fan knows you never pay any attention to what Artest says

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    Ron could easily come out tomorrow and say that Reggie better than Jordan and I wouldn't be surprised.

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    Default Re: Artest says Martin is better than Reggie Miller

    This wouldn't be that big of a deal if it were anybody else, but since it's Artest people will use anything they can to lash out at him.

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    Ron could easily come out tomorrow and say that Reggie better than Jordan and I wouldn't be surprised.
    So would that mean Kevin was better than Jordan?
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