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    Tinsley for Luke Walton

    Walton is not playing. Trevor Ariza has emerged, they do not need more depth at PG. This trade cannot work out 1 on 1 how do we get it done.

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    I always thought for the triangle offense to work you need a PG that is really good at shooting 3's? Thats why they have Fisher. Tinsley is really good at the 3 ball
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    Tinsley is really good at the 3 ball
    Why do people always say this?

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal...eer_stats.html

    He's had 2 good seasons at 37% but then shot 22% the next year. The past two seasons he has hovered around 30%. He is not a good three point shooter.

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    Successful Trade Scenario
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    Due to Indiana and L.A. Lakers being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and L.A. Lakers had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +5.5 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +2.1 apg.

    Incoming Players
    Chris Mihm
    7-0 C from Texas
    2.6 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 5.2 minutes
    Luke Walton
    6-8 PF from Arizona
    2.9 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.5 apg in 9.6 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-1 PG from Iowa State
    No games yet played in 2008-2009



    L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: -5.5 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and -2.1 apg.

    Incoming Players
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-1 PG from Iowa State
    No games yet played in 2008-2009
    Outgoing Players
    Chris Mihm
    7-0 C from Texas
    2.6 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 5.2 minutes
    Luke Walton
    6-8 PF from Arizona
    2.9 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.5 apg in 9.6 minutes



    Seems like a doable trade, we are basically giving Tinsley away as LA is not really losing any rotation players.
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    I am not a fan of Chris Mihm but do you think the Lakers do this trade? Keep in mind Fisher is older. Mihm is not flashy but he does provide them a decent back up if Bynum is out. They gave two first round picks for Gasol. They do have J Farmar. Tinsley with Kobe/Gasol does it work?

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    I would think LA would do this trade. Mihm is absolutely awful, I saw him play recently and he barely looked like an NBA player out there. He would be one and done regardless. LA is LA and they won't have any problem attracting a decent backup center to take Mihm's place.
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    Why do people always say this?

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal...eer_stats.html

    He's had 2 good seasons at 37% but then shot 22% the next year. The past two seasons he has hovered around 30%. He is not a good three point shooter.
    Sorry i meant, HES NOT GOOD AT THE 3 BALL
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    By the way I do like Luke Walton. He does a lot of what Dunleavy does, as he is a great ball handler and passer. His shot was great a couple of seasons ago too when I think he shot 40%. He could be a good backup here, especially if we trade Dun or Quis. Plus, we wouldn't have to use Stephen Graham anymore which would be a big plus.

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    Sorry i meant, HES NOT GOOD AT THE 3 BALL
    No problem bud.

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    I actually LOVE this trade. Walton is not really in their plans for the future. They have signed him to a long term deal but they didnt pay him a whole lot at about 5M per season. They love him because he is a great team guy and won't complain too much sitting the bench as much as he does. I think with Farmar having knee issues recently, the Lakers would have an interest in another PG especially with Fisher being as old as he is. They really try to limit his minutes to save him. Tinsley wouldn't have to play 30 minutes a game either and they wouldn't be as susceptible to an injury at the PG position with three guys that all play about 20 minutes a game. Tinsley does have playoff experience and would probably fit in well with a Lakers team where he is a role player. Tinsley also is probably a bit more modest after his NBA hiatus. I think the Lakers are a contender that could use a guy like Tinlsey and would have the players to get it done. Boston doesn't have anybody it could trade for Tinsley so that makes no sense for their PG depth.

    The Lakers Trade as related to the money involved:

    Walton 5yr, 26.0M 4.42M 6.92M
    Mihm 1yr, 2.5M 2.50M

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    Tinsley 3 yr, 21.6M 6.75M 6.75M

    Overall we take on 7M more dollars in salary over the long haul. We bring in another scrub in Mihm who we would presumably cut. Walton could be a nice rotation guy for us like 7-9 in the rotation. I think he could be our first guy off the bench in the post Dun/Murph era. It actually adds another solid basketball player to our 12 man lineup as well.

    I have heard rumblings that the Lakers have been shopping Vujacic. I wouldn't mind if it was Vujacic and Mihm for Tinsley as well.

    Vujacic 3yr, 15.0M 4.52M 7.02M
    Mihm 1yr, 2.5M 2.50M

    for

    Tinsley 3 yr, 21.6M 6.75M 6.75M

    This deal would favor us a little more in that the Lakers take on about 4M extra in salary but they also get rid of the lesser player. IMO I would prefer Walton over Vujacic as a player, but I would prefer Vujacic's three year deal expiring with the likes of Foster, Ford, Dun and Murph, giving us extreme cap room in the Summer of 2011. Let's hope we can use that room to extend Rush and Hibby.

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    The Pacers would like to get rid of Tinsley, but they aren't going to take on Walton, who would be nothing but a bench player, for 4 1/2 years at his salary. If there had been a team option the 3 or 4th year, then yes, but there isn't.

    I don't see the Lakers wanting Tinsley either.

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    They give an expiring contract but Walton has a a year longer contract than Tinsley. The Lakers do this deal to provide backcourt depth. Fishers is old, Vujaic is a shooter (nothing more) & Farmar is not the answer.

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    They give an expiring contract but Walton has a a year longer contract than Tinsley. The Lakers do this deal to provide backcourt depth. Fishers is old, Vujaic is a shooter (nothing more) & Farmar is not the answer.

    Walton has a 2 year longer contract than Tinsley.

    And the answer for the Lakers isn't Tinsley as their b/u either. I don't see Tinsley as Jackson's type... too much baggage, years of injury, and imo Tinsley isn't a player Jackson could coach.
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    I can't imagine why Walton ever received that contract. We certainly don't need a guy with 4 more years who lacks real nba skills. Better to keep tinsley for 2 more than Walton for 4 more.

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    Walton is really skilled. He doesn't fill the scoresheet but he does a lot of positive things on the floor

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    Walton is really skilled. He doesn't fill the scoresheet but he does a lot of positive things on the floor

    Walton hasn't done much this season until about 2 weeks ago when Jackson put Walton in the starting lineup over Radmanovic.

    Previous to that, I like Speakout4, I thought it had been a mistake to have given Walton that contract, but as you stated he's been doing a lot of positive things with his playing time that he's gotten lately. If you watched the Lakers/Celtics Christmas Day game, one would have seen the positive things he brings.

    Personally, I still feel he's overpaid and given a contract with too many years, but that's JMOAA.

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    This Wud B A Good Trade For Both Teams.
    LAL & IND.

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    I'm all for moving Tinsley but not if it means taking on another long term contract. Especially when that contract is Luke Walton. And then to give up your most athletic big who also happens to be your youngest player to get him I don't see how this helps the Pacers at all.
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    I believe Walton was starting at SF on Christmas.

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    I think McRoberts is a hidden gem. I'd rather not trade him.

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    If you're looking for a throwaway player add Stephen Graham. McRoberts is going to be a decent NBA player.
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    I'm all for moving Tinsley but not if it means taking on another long term contract. Especially when that contract is Luke Walton. And then to give up your most athletic big who also happens to be your youngest player to get him I don't see how this helps the Pacers at all.
    Then we can give them Graham. Walton is what these team is trying to do. He has a decent skill set and we get to acquire more of a fan base." Larry Bird picked up Walton's boy" is the logic.

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    Then we can give them Graham. Walton is what these team is trying to do. He has a decent skill set and we get to acquire more of a fan base." Larry Bird picked up Walton's boy" is the logic.

    Do you really think that more people would go to the games because of Luke Walton or were you being sarcastic?
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    Do you really think that more people would go to the games because of Luke Walton or were you being sarcastic?
    No Luke Walton is not going to sell tickets at all but the fact is this several "casual fans" will be more inclined to pay for tickets once Tinsley's contract comes off the books. The fact is this the older generation of casual fans will think Larry Bird is trying to rebuild the Pacers in the face of the 80's Celtics.

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    Farmer is out till mid Feb those this make the Lakers more likely to get Tinsley?

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