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  • Daniels Knows Demotion Is Coming

    Marquis Daniels has been a pleasant surprise in Indiana this season, which has helped lessen the blow delivered by Mike Dunleavy's lingering knee injury.

    Daniels, who arrived via trade from Dallas in the summer of 2006 with lofty expectations, is averaging a career-high 15.7 points, 5.5 rebounds and 2.3 assists through the team's first 24 games.

    Even more surprising than his production is his physical presence in the lineup. He missed a combined 45 games in the previous two seasons, largely because of a knee injury that limited his explosiveness last year.

    "The trainers did a great job of getting me ready, and I did a lot of rehabbing this summer," Daniels said recently of his knee issues. "Thank God that everything is back right with me health-wise."

    If Daniels wasn't playing so well, the Pacers would likely be even worse than their current 8-16 record. Behind him on the team's depth chart is rookie Brandon Rush, who momentarily fell out of coach Jim O'Brien's rotation at the beginning of December.

    Rush, the thirteenth overall pick from June's NBA Draft, has struggled to adjust the NBA game. He's averaging 7.1 points and 2.3 rebounds per contest on just 42.1% shooting. He consistently shot above 44% from the field at Kansas, while hitting roughly 42.4% from three-point land.

    As surprising and appreciated as Daniels' production has been this season, the Pacers are still missing Dunleavy mightily. The former Duke standout enjoyed a career year in his first full season with Indiana, posting 19.1 points and 5.2 rebounds on 47.6% shooting.

    He also helped take pressure off Danny Granger on offense, while playing much better defense than his critics often gave him credit for in Golden State.

    Dunleavy was also the picture of stability for the Pacers during a rocky season in 2007-08, playing (and starting) in every one of the team's 82 games. Daniels has stepped in and started every contest this season, but he's aware that a demotion is likely on the horizon.

    Indiana has been rather vague regarding Dunleavy's status, other than saying that his knee injury is something that few doctors have ever seen, but the team still anticipates that he'll take the court this season.

    When he does, Daniels will be ready to adjust.

    "I just have to be professional about it," Daniels said earlier this month. "I'll continue to go out there and do what I'm doing right now. Hopefully my time won’t change that much, but I'll continue to play well."

    It's as good a time as ever for Daniels to turn in the best season of his six-year NBA career. The Pacers have a $7.4 million team option on the contract of the 6'6" guard. His performance will either earn him another year in Indiana while earning a pretty penny, or a ticket out of town for even more cash should the Pacers desire cap room.

    He has scored 20 or more points on seven occasions, including a dominating offense performance in the first half of Indiana's 122-117 overtime loss to the defending-champion Celtics on Dec. 7.

    Daniels brings a unique offensive style to the Pacers, who have lacked a slashing swingman. Stephen Jackson and Jalen Rose were decent at creating their own shot when getting to the basket, but I'd rate Daniels a tad better than both.

    Both T.J. Ford and Jarrett Jack have a tendency to drive to the hoop as well, but neither has Daniels' size. Granger is getting better at creating his own offense, but Marquis always appears more in control.

    It remains to be seen just how long O'Brien will lean on Daniels to be the team's second option on offense, but he's shown through the first quarter of the season that he's capable of handling the load.

    Assuming Dunleavy does return, the Pacers will have a strong punch off the bench to create mismatches against the opposing team's second unit.

    That would be a pleasant surprise in and of itself.
    http://pacers.realgm.com/articles/15...ion_is_coming/
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    Q6 should win the most improved player in the league award this year.

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      Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
      Q6 should win the most improved player in the league award this year.
      X2

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        Indiana has been rather vague regarding Dunleavy's status, other than saying that his knee injury is something that few doctors have ever seen, but the team still anticipates that he'll take the court this season.
        My eyes just bugged out. It's worse than I thought.
        This space for rent.

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          If Dunleavy returns prior to the trade deadline, and the team has no desire to bring back Quis, we really should look to move him. He's played his way into having good trade value, value above that of a normal $7M expiring contract. I think we could get short contract(s) and a 1st out of him.

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            Originally posted by Quis View Post
            If Dunleavy returns prior to the trade deadline, and the team has no desire to bring back Quis, we really should look to move him. He's played his way into having good trade value, value above that of a normal $7M expiring contract. I think we could get short contract(s) and a 1st out of him.
            If and when Dunleavy returns, if a Backcourt rotation of Ford/Marquis/Granger/Dunleavy/Jack works out pretty well but BRush still shows signs that he needs to improve, I wouldn't be surprised if TPTB decided to pick up Marquis Team Option next season.

            I know that it would mean that BRush gets spot minutes for another season....but I can see TPTB pick up Marquis Team Option if it meant that we are pretty competitive with him in the lineup.

            Although I still think that Dunleavy will finish, I think that Marquis should still keep his Starting role ( but with reduced minutes ) with Dunleavy coming off the bench with the 2nd unit to be paired with Jack and BRush.

            1st unit Backcourt : Ford/Marquis/Granger
            2nd unit Backcourt : Jack/BRush/Dunleavy

            In both cases, Marquis and BRush ( or Jack ) could take the quicker/better Perimeter Guard and Granger/Dunleavy can focus more on scoring.
            Last edited by CableKC; 12-19-2008, 01:39 PM.
            Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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              Originally posted by CableKC View Post
              If and when Dunleavy returns, if a Backcourt rotation of Ford/Marquis/Granger/Dunleavy/Jack works out pretty well but BRush still shows signs that he needs to improve, I wouldn't be surprised if TPTB decided to pick up Marquis Team Option next season.

              I know that it would mean that BRush gets spot minutes for another season....but I can see TPTB pick up Marquis Team Option if it meant that we are pretty competitive with him in the lineup.

              Although I still think that Dunleavy will finish, I think that Marquis should still keep his Starting role ( but with reduced minutes ) with Dunleavy coming off the bench with the 2nd unit.

              I disagree. I don't see the Pacers picking up Daniels option for next year at 7 mil. Right now he's the Pacers best trading chip.

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                Originally posted by Justin Tyme View Post
                I disagree. I don't see the Pacers picking up Daniels option for next year at 7 mil. Right now he's the Pacers best trading chip.
                If a trade comes along for Marquis that would fit our needs ( ie, Low-Post scoring PF ) while not killing whatever Financial flexibility that we have leading up to the 2011 offseason, then I agree that he will likely be traded. Despite a willingness to take Players with 3 year contracts that expire AFTER the 2010 season ( which is a Plus in today's Market ), the problem is that I do not think that we would be able to get such a Player for Marquis ( at least before the 2008 Trade Deadline ).

                Although we are in "rebuilding mode", I also think that one of Bird's goals over the next 2 seasons ( until Dunleavy/Murphy/Tinsley comes off the book ) is to return the Pacers to the Playoffs while keeping the team competitive so that they can get fans to return to Conseco Fieldhouse.

                IF ( over the course of this season ) BRush doesn't play up to the level that will be required of him in order for him to play behind Granger, Dunleavy and next to Jack ( assuming that he is resigned ) in the SG/SF rotation ( basically the role that will eventually Marquis fill ), then I think that TPTB will keep him for another season...just to keep us competitive against other teams. Besides, just because Marquis Team Option is picked up for 2009, it doesn't mean that TPTB can't trade him again before the 2009 Trade Deadline....when I think that his trade value will be much higher when more teams will have a clearer picture of where they stand in the 2010 FA Market.

                I agree that there is a liklihood that TPTB won't pick up Marquis Team Option, but given his play as of late, I'm not going to say that it's a foregone conclusion unless BRush all of a sudden "gets it" and is ready to take Marquis spot in the rotation next season.
                Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                  Originally posted by Quis View Post
                  If Dunleavy returns prior to the trade deadline, and the team has no desire to bring back Quis, we really should look to move him. He's played his way into having good trade value, value above that of a normal $7M expiring contract. I think we could get short contract(s) and a 1st out of him.
                  agreed, they may be able to get a guy like travis outlaw
                  @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                    Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
                    Q6 should win the most improved player in the league award this year.
                    Devin Harris.

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                      Re: Daniels Knows Demotion Is Coming

                      Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
                      agreed, they may be able to get a guy like travis outlaw
                      I think we should look into a low post player. With Granger, Dunleavy and Rush, I dont see many mins for Outlaw. If we could do Daniels and 2 2nd rounders for Outlaw and Frye I'd be happy http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...1~11&te=&cash=
                      Last edited by MillerTime; 12-19-2008, 06:48 PM.
                      "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                        Originally posted by sweabs View Post
                        Devin Harris.
                        If Millsap keeps playing the way he is (depending on Boozer's situation) I can see him being a candidate too
                        "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                          Q6 won't have a sniff at Most Improved, if last year is any indication. I actually agreed with Turkoglu winning the award last year, but for Dunleavy to finish a distant 6th was more of an indication of the franchise getting over-looked then anything to me. I don't see that changing this year!
                          ...Still "flying casual"
                          @roaminggnome74

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                            Re: Daniels Knows Demotion Is Coming

                            Originally posted by Anthem View Post
                            My eyes just bugged out. It's worse than I thought.
                            Yep. Pretty telling comment. Not exactly "he's been practicing hard" or "next week they are going to see if he's ready to start normal practices".

                            Why run this puff piece, it's really seeming moot at this point.

                            Hey, if they get Steve Nash does that mean Diener goes to the IR; and more in my new book "Who gives a s***, 101 moot questions to liven up your party"

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                              Originally posted by Anthem View Post
                              My eyes just bugged out. It's worse than I thought.
                              This is why I don't buy that Quis won't be back next season. We just don't know anything about when Dun will be back or if. If dun comes back and is not 100% we resign Quis. That or Rush gets a whole lot better very soon.

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