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    I'm just throwing this out there...not saying I buy it...

    "Recenty, several rumors have emerged speculating that Orlando Magic guard Tracy McGrady will be heading to Houston in exchange for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, and Kelvin Cato.

    However, several league sources are now confirming Orlando and Indiana are in the final stages of a blockbuster deal that will send McGrady to the Pacers in exchange for Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Fred Jones, and a future draft pick." - NBA Inside Source Thomas Whitley
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    NBA Inside Source Thomas Whitley
    Uh, who?? ed:
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    I'm just throwing this out there...not saying I buy it...

    "Recenty, several rumors have emerged speculating that Orlando Magic guard Tracy McGrady will be heading to Houston in exchange for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, and Kelvin Cato.

    However, several league sources are now confirming Orlando and Indiana are in the final stages of a blockbuster deal that will send McGrady to the Pacers in exchange for Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Fred Jones, and a future draft pick." - NBA Inside Source Thomas Whitley
    Ouch.

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    Now remember BP...don't beleive everything you read. (no wink smilie to these Quick Reply spots)
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    seems like we are getting reamed, if true!
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    NBA Inside Source Thomas Whitley
    Uh, who?? ed:


    I dunno????? ed:
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    Interesting. Guess we'll find out.

    Al and Ron, huh? Dunno, but if Ron was gone anyway, better he help seal the deal for McGrady than just give him up for a Bonzi Wells or a James Posey.

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    http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/v...t=4342&start=0

    Please tell me none of you are taking this article as such gospal as to assume that's how it will happen if it does, because that's
    No, but it points to the fact that Orlando asking price is way to high. If this is their opening offer, it tells me they expect something like Ron + Al/JB + Freddie (I expect they think we'll counter with Freddie when Jamaal's name comes up, along with agreeing to either Al or Johnny.)
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    Any capologist know if Ron + Al + Fred + Future draft pick for McGrady works straight-up cap-wise? Or would there need to be further tweaking?

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    Again, this is all grain of salt level stuff, but if this is how it worked out, ourlineup:

    Tinsley / Johnson
    McGrady / Miller
    Bender / James Jones or a FA
    O'Neal / Croshere
    Foster / Pollard or Primoz

    Uhh, yes please.

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    Well some sources are saying the MAgic are wanting Tmac gone by Draft Day , so if that's true then we have a short way to wait to end all this hype

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    Any capologist know if Ron + Al + Fred + Future draft pick for McGrady works straight-up cap-wise? Or would there need to be further tweaking?
    If not it's very close, easily tweakable.

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    Now remember BP...don't beleive everything you read. (no wink smilie to these Quick Reply spots)

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    I just checked it out on RealGM. It won't work right now as stated because of Ron's BYC, but once that wears off in a couple weeks it does work.

    If they were to iron this out in the next couple days, they could announce it on draft night, and it would become official in July.

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    Now remember BP...don't beleive everything you read. (no wink smilie to these Quick Reply spots)
    I almost prefaced my "ouch" with "If this happens..." but didn't feel it was necessary.

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    If this rumor is true:

    I just wonder if Houston is not offering Francis, Mobley and Cato? This just seems like a lot to give up for T-mac, and Orlando would have to be foolish not to just say "SOLD". Maybe that isn't the deal offered by Houston. 1 superstar, one tier-2 guy and 1 decent center seem awful high for T-mac. That is why I have my doubts that is what Houston offered, If this is true!!!
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    Well some sources are saying the MAgic are wanting Tmac gone by Draft Day , so if that's true then we have a short way to wait to end all this hype

    I read that too, goody, goody,goody!

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    acutally I think Ron + Al + Fred would work alone without a draft pick , so if you wanted to sweeten the deal throw in a draft pick.

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    LOL well realgm is overloaded so more people read this

    and indygeezer; just type ; and ) to make

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    acutally I think Ron + Al + Fred would work alone without a draft pick , so if you wanted to sweeten the deal throw in a draft pick.
    I remember last time i looked it did not work, Al and JB did, but they are both making more then Ron, so i presume Fred is needed (or a simular contract)
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    And Able comes thru again but this time I knew that.



    ANd personally, I think this report is total BS. You hear EVERYTHING leading up to the draft.
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    Indiana trades: SF Ron Artest (18.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.2 minutes)
    PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 30.9 minutes)
    Indiana receives: SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -3.6 ppg, -5.7 rpg, and +0.1 apg.

    Orlando trades: SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
    Orlando receives: SF Ron Artest (18.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.7 apg in 73 games)
    PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 79 games)
    Change in team outlook: +3.6 ppg, +5.7 rpg, and -0.1 apg.

    TRADE DECLINED



    Al Harrington 18.9
    Ron Artest 18.1

    Tracy McGrady 44.0

    Fred Jones 5.0

    mat shows you need Fred as filler, no one else in that range
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    It's Declined cause Ron Has a BYC

    You could also use AL and Bender and it would be Declined because of BYC

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    However, several league sources are now confirming Orlando and Indiana are in the final stages of a blockbuster deal that will send McGrady to the Pacers in exchange for Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Fred Jones, and a future draft pick." - NBA Inside Source Thomas Whitley
    Okay, this paragraph gave me an idea. Assuming the above is the deal of course, why wouldn't the Pacers give up this year's #29 pick?

    I have two thoughts on that. One, the Magic think any pick in subsequent years will be better.

    Two, the Pacer's have a prospect they like for #29.

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    Default Re: Thias from the Houston ESPN board

    Here's another post from the ESPN boards (which, in itself, is really sad . . . but, hey, apparently geezer and I are bored).

    Detroit board

    Jim Gray just reported on SC that this trade will go down:

    TO Houston: T-Mac & J.Howard

    TO Orlando: Francis, Mobely, Cato

    The only way it doesn't happen is if Juwon is taken in the expansion draft.

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