"Cut yourself a slice of life before eternal cold comes down" MRH
I say no way. Too much risk and not enough reward unless it is the only way to trade Tinsley. We let him play PF and he either proves he's a fit or we trade him before the deadline.
Would Al get all crappy about coming off the bench here? That is the big question. We have a nice young team now, with new guys I want to see play alot of mins. We finally rid of all malcontents. Let's not screw that up by adding a guy who thinks he should be the go to guy... or one of them, who harbors resentment for not getting major mins.
I say this as one of very few people who wanted Al back from Atlanta.
We really don't have a place for Al.
He would be competing with Troy for min. and frankly at this stage of thier careers I would rather have Troy. They both are going to score about the same over a season but Troy will grab 2-3 rbg more on average.
Now if this were the defensive minded Al then that would be a differant story, but that Al hasn't been around in years.
On the other hand I don't think you are going to get a better deal for Tinsley.
However even knowing that I would still not want to do this because Jamaal is not on the team and the worst thing he is doing is drawing salary for doing nothing.
Al on the other hand would be here and I could see him being a malcontent if he doesn't start.
NOT what we need with this new breath of fresh air we have.
Al was great in the community and I liked to have him on the team. But that ship has passed.
In fact I will say this.
There are no former Pacers out there that I would like to see return.
Brad sunk himself with me over the chronic.
I think it is far past time to look forward and not look back.
"So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.
I am so pi$$ed of you got no idea..
Al Harrington-F/C- Warriors Oct. 29 - 1:58 am et
A team source has confirmed that Al Harrington, citing a poor relationship with coach Don Nelson, has officially asked the Warriors to trade him.
Nellie benched Harrington in a preaseason game against Lithuania and Harrington refused to reenter when Nelson asked him to go back in. This is disastrous news for Harrington owners, as the fact that the feud is public means Nellie might not feel like playing him. Harrington came into the season saying he was ready to make it work, but he appears to be at the end of his rope with Nellie. Wait and see what happens Wednesday before doing anything drastic.
Why Why do it on the eve of the start of the new season, are you trying to ruin my Fantasy Team after I have stuck with for years... WHY WHY WHY Mr Harrington...
I may want him back on the team one day but not this week, and I'm not a fan of trading a player to a team and then trading for him back.... never liked that much for anyone...
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Ya Think Ya Used Enough Dynamite there Butch...
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill
“If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird
I doubt Al will fit into O'Brien's system. He will be asked to stand at the three point line and shoot threes and that is what he hates about playing for Nellie
The WHOLE IDEA of this trade is to get rid of Tinsley. No, I don't want Harrington back, but in this case I'd be pleased if he was a 30 game or less rental again. Harrington's contract is much easier to trade b4 the trade deadline than Tinsley's. Do the deal, and then trade Harrington. It's a win win situation for the Pacers!
I'd say we should do this trade. And it's definitely not because I have an Al Harrington jersey hanging in my closet.
I'd rather keep Tinsley on the roster than have Al back. He won't help us win and will only take minutes away from our young guys. No thanks.
Here is the real deal.
Al Harrington 2yr, 20M
Eddy Curry 3yr, 31M
Yes, GS gets the bigger potential/talent/player. They also get the extra year of contract that the Knicks would love to dispose of. Plus DW really likes Harrington if I remember correctly.
Curry would be a horrible fit for the Warriors.
OH that's right. Because the Warriors play defense, have great ball movement, and have too many players in their front court. I forgot. My bad.
The Warriors just locked up their center - who's markedly better than Curry - and have two prospects who are internally regarded highly at the 4, plus they signed Turiaf to provide backup minutes...
There is no logical reason why they would consider investing $31 million in a center, particularly Eddy Curry of all people.
When they can take a player that doesn't want to be there and turn it into a more talented and younger player with a similar contract I think they do it. That third year doesn't change the fact they have so little salary cap flexibility as it is. I think I would take the chance that Curry would come in and be a productive player for me in the front court if I am them. Also, if they are against trading for a redundant player why then did they go after Maggette when they had my boy Jack. Jack is a much better player and Ellis is more of a two than a traditional pg. I think you free up PT for Wright at PF in doing this. Turiaf is a backup PF. Curry would be a backup Center. Although he would be overpaid it doesn't hurt their salary cap situation, because none of their young players need to be resigned until after his contract is up anyway. Anthony Randolph they are saying is a "point pf". I don't get that from a system standpoint, but they are enamored by his handle at his height. I think he will fit in with this team somewhere but hes WAY TOO SMALL (body type) to play PF in the NBA although he is 6'11". He will probably figure in the lineup a lot more once Jack is gone from GS. I don't see GS wanting to resign him if Randolph progresses. They are looking at a future of young players. Ellis, Maggette, Randolph, Wright, Beidrins (with no PG, Belinelli, Azuibuke, Turiaf, and Curry as backups). The only older players on that team are Harrington and Jack.
Al Harrington 2 yr, 20M
Stephen Jackson 2 yr, 15M
Jamal Crawford 3yr, 28M
Eddy Curry 3yr, 31M
Makes a lot of sense to me if GS is willing to lock up that third year's cap space.
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Jack is the Warriors franchise player now - and by far their best player, as stated by pretty much everyone - and they're about to give him an extension. No way do they trade him at this point.
More likely they will pursue packaging Al with Belinelli or maybe even Wright if the deal is lucrative enough.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
Jack's a talented guy, but if he's your best player, your team is not very good.
We shall find out.