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    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=4783856

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +2.1 ppg, +7.1 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

    Incoming Players
    David Lee
    6-9 PF from Florida
    10.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.1 minutes
    Malik Rose
    6-7 PF from Drexel
    3.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.6 apg in 10.1 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Stephen Graham
    6-6 SG from Oklahoma State
    4.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 5.8 minutes
    Marquis Daniels
    6-5 SG from Auburn
    8.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.9 minutes



    Essentially it is two expiring contracts, Quis and Graham, along with two first-round picks, for David Lee and the expiring contract of Malik Rose.

    For the Knicks, it helps them stock up for the future/2010 free agency boom -- they get a couple of cheap, quality draft picks and cap relief. They won't have to extend Lee, whose new contract would basically put them out of the running for LeBron/Bosh/Wade.

    For us, we shed a couple of contracts of pretty fringe players (considering Quis' inconsistency and decline over the past several years) and pick up our PF of the future. Lee is a great hustle player and can score with either hand in the paint. He can rebound and would be a great compliment to Murph or Danny if we go small. We probably wouldn't be able to draft anyone better than Lee considering that we'll probably finish between 7th-9th in the conference. We can lock him up this summer and have a pretty promising lineup going forward.

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    Default Re: IND/NY Trade idea

    An expiring and a throw in for an expiring and David Lee?

    Remember that Donnie Walsh still has brainwave activity.

    Lee actually is a great fit for D'Antoni's system, so I don't see them trading Lee.
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    An expiring and a throw in for an expiring and David Lee?

    Remember that Donnie Walsh still has brainwave activity.

    Lee actually is a great fit for D'Antoni's system, so I don't see them trading Lee.

    There are also two first-rounders in the deal....

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    There are also two first-rounders in the deal....
    my bad.

    I don't see Lee worth two 1sts. Also think D'Antoni would rather keep him. (A Lee bird in the hand is worth two firsts in the next year's draft bush?)

    I also don't think Lee is that much better than our current PF, whoever that is (Murphy, Foster, ?).
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    my bad.

    I don't see Lee worth two 1sts. Also think D'Antoni would rather keep him. (A Lee bird in the hand is worth two firsts in the next year's draft bush?)

    I also don't think Lee is that much better than our current PF, whoever that is (Murphy, Foster, ?).
    I'd say he's head and shoulders above Foster... he's the same player except he can finish on his putbacks and is at least 5 years younger. I suppose I could see an argument for Murphy being better, but he's less valuable because his contract is ten times bigger and he also can't score in the paint. He's strictly a jump shooter and I think we have enough competent contributors in that department that play in the backcourt and swing positions. I'd rather have a player who isn't afraid to use a little elbow grease to get the job done.

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    my bad.

    I don't see Lee worth two 1sts. Also think D'Antoni would rather keep him. (A Lee bird in the hand is worth two firsts in the next year's draft bush?)

    I also don't think Lee is that much better than our current PF, whoever that is (Murphy, Foster, ?).
    I agree with your 1st part, but totally disagree with last statement. David Lee is better than both Murphy and Jeff Foster. I have wanted Lee for 2 years. He is a young hustle Foster with a JUMPSHOT who can put the putbacks in the basket! He's cheaper than Murphy, younger, and will average as much as Murphy or more.

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    No way to giving up two 1sts for this. Trading even one 1st isn't an option for us unless it nets us a superstar.

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    2 1st rounds seems a little rich for this. If it was only 1 I just may pull the trigger on it.
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    I wouldn't do it. Daniels is playing well at the moment and hopefully, if healthy, all year long. Besides, I wouldn't like to lose the draft picks.

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    NY is not trading Lee.

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    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=4783856

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +2.1 ppg, +7.1 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

    Incoming Players
    David Lee
    6-9 PF from Florida
    10.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.1 minutes
    Malik Rose
    6-7 PF from Drexel
    3.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.6 apg in 10.1 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Stephen Graham
    6-6 SG from Oklahoma State
    4.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 5.8 minutes
    Marquis Daniels
    6-5 SG from Auburn
    8.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.9 minutes



    Essentially it is two expiring contracts, Quis and Graham, along with two first-round picks, for David Lee and the expiring contract of Malik Rose.

    For the Knicks, it helps them stock up for the future/2010 free agency boom -- they get a couple of cheap, quality draft picks and cap relief. They won't have to extend Lee, whose new contract would basically put them out of the running for LeBron/Bosh/Wade.

    For us, we shed a couple of contracts of pretty fringe players (considering Quis' inconsistency and decline over the past several years) and pick up our PF of the future. Lee is a great hustle player and can score with either hand in the paint. He can rebound and would be a great compliment to Murph or Danny if we go small. We probably wouldn't be able to draft anyone better than Lee considering that we'll probably finish between 7th-9th in the conference. We can lock him up this summer and have a pretty promising lineup going forward.
    I hate this trade Lee is good but i the only deal that's worth talking about is a deal for Tinsley. Quis and Tinsley is a cancer

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