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Well, I went back and took a look but I didn't see this posted yet. I apologize if it has been. A somewhat interesting read about the Pacers in general and even more interesting some pics of how Roy has been signing cards. Hope he lives up to the hype.
I can't speak for everyone else, but since I posted this I just want to say that I don't mean to ridicule him. I just found it interesting, and a bit bold. I am glad he is confident, I just hope he hasn't set himsef up for failure. I am sure we all hope he can be a franchise caliber player.
"No one else can see the preservation of the martyr in me" -- Corey Taylor
Tell me, what exactly did we win in that period of time? Is it wrong for me as a Pacers fans to want more than what we accomplished then, or rather did not?
You were a really good team that actually mattered and had a 2-3 year window to do something big, but it just didn't work out for a few reasons.
Jermaine ended up not being worth his money because of his injuries and he wasn't a clutch, but he was a workhorse and gave you guys the CHANCE to compete and if not for a few circumstances, you were on the verge of really competing for something. And no, you're not wrong for wanting more.
But to think you'll just easily walk into acquiring another bigman of anywhere near the caliber of Jermaine in his prime is pretty presumptive.
I dont think he has the offensive talent nor the foot work to be the next JO. I think he'll be something like the next Dekembe
Its a crapshoot in terms of predicting how good he will be. But the comment above is just one more indication of people not having a clue about some of these guys coming out of college. Hibbert's footwork was raved about by almost every person who called his games and that included big men who played years in the NBA. His skill level on offense (which includes passing, shooting, dribbling and ability to score with either hand) also got high praise by these same men who actually saw him live and in person numerous times. His defense though got more solid-like praise, specifically his presence in the paint. But what he was able to do on O led to the most positive responses.
Yet hundreds of fans and guys in the media who apparently never saw him (or saw much of him) keep making these predictions of him being the next Dikembe. Tell me how do you come to these conclusions and/or predictions? Hibbert does not have the defensive timing of Mutombo. He does not have Mutombo's athleticism or stamina. He does not rebound on the defensive end as well as Mutombo. But I guess his being 7'2 and being from Gtown automatically leads to such comparisons? Otherwise I don't get it.
Hall of Fame coach John Thompson knows something about centers. He would never put Hibbert in Mutombo's class as a defender. But Thompson has stated quite a few times that Hibbert is more gifted on the offensive end than Mutombo and Mourning. All JT had seen of Hibbert is many of his high school games, all of his college games, probably a dozen summer league games and hundreds of practices and pickup games in which Hibbert is involved. JT has also seen enough big time basketball to make evaluations about players' abilities. You do realize that Mourning is the 4th all-time leading scorer at Gtown and in his senior season averaged over 20 points. Still JT says Hibbert is the better offensive talent. That's because Roy had better dropsteps, better hookshots, better passing skills, the ability to use the glass for baskets, better ball control, better postup footwork and the ability to score with both hands. Realize that these areas were never strong points for Alonzo, my all-time favorite Hoya. Zo got/get his points mostly on effort, heart, aggression, running the floor, getting fouled because he goes up strong, etc. But whether at Gtown or in the pros Zo was never great at delivering a basket late in the game by isolating a defender and posting up. Hibbert has yet to do that in the NBA but he was a good target for that while at Gtown.
Hibbert broke a BE record for fg% shooting. He did that his junior year without:
1)scoring off of fast breaks (Gtown didn't have many of those)
2)scoring uncontested dunks
3)benefiting from teammates who drove into the paint, drew the defense and delivered to Roy passes for point blank layups.
In other words he broke that record without getting the type of EASY baskets that big men thrive on. Mutombo would get a two to three of those types of baskets each game by the time of his senior season. Trust me...Roy would get such baskets two to three times every couple of weeks....sometimes longer. When he scored it was typically with a defender guarding him closely and Roy using his footwork, dexterity, length and touch to score anyway. He certainly wasn't some athletic freak like Greg Oden who could get three to four easy dunks each game because of his superior athleticism and because Ohio State ran the floor more.
I'm not saying he is the next JO or anything. But his game is probably closer to JO's than it is Mutombo. So can folks stop calling him the next Mutombo? I don't care if folks don't think Roy is going to be all that great. That is merely an opinion. But claiming he is like Mutombo is frankly just misinformation. And to be fair while Roy worships those previous Gtown centers he too needs to stop making comparisons to those guys (something he has always done since high school). He is Roy Hibbert, not Mutombo, Mourning or Ewing. Eventually we will find out how he stacks up compare to them as an NBA player.