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    Me too, but more than likely, so would Denver. Also, keep in mind that we're in "no attitude" mode, and with KMart there have been rumblings of him not being a very good teammate, whereas the only knock (other than stats) about Nene that I've heard is that he's very injury prone.
    If the case was to take Nene, I would have to pass. I would like KMart, but if we cant get him, I'd rather keep Murphy.

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    With all this talk about getting K-Mart, not one mention of why would Denver want Murphy. They wouldn't, subject dead!

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    Kmart is still a solid PF that could meet our needs for a Low-Post scoring / Rebounding intimidator that can play some solid defense. When the Nuggets plays the Lakers.....KMart is sometimes used to guard Kobe.
    to be fair, karl does that because he's an idiot.

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    to be fair, karl does that because he's an idiot.
    its so true. How successful was Kmart guarding Kobe
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    With all this talk about getting K-Mart, not one mention of why would Denver want Murphy. They wouldn't, subject dead!
    It's not like they play defense anyway...

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    [Jermainiac]Kobe smokes everybody.[/Jermainiac]
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    It's not like they play defense anyway...
    Defensive is only a part of the whole! What is it that Murphy has that is so great Denver needs?

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    To be fair, his long range shooting could be a nice compliment to the game of AI, who likes to drive to the basket. Once defenses collapse, it would be a good opportunity for Murph's skills to be of use. This also could apply to Carmelo, but he likes to shoot jumpshots primarily. Also, Nene likes to play inside so having Murph out there would open up the floor for him as well.
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    The deal seems to be dead, due to Tinsley large contract

    Price isn't right: One NBA general manager said the Nuggets were very interested in trading for Pacers guard Jamaal Tinsley but his hefty contract ultimately kept the deal from happening. Tinsley, who has been barred from Pacers training camp because of off-the-court issues, is making $6.75 million this season and has three years and $21.45 million left on his contract.
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    The deal seems to be dead, due to Tinsley large contract

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    Could be that the coach/GM like the deal but it got shot down when they sought approval from the owner.

    Wouldn't be the first time it's happened in this league.

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    Could be that the coach/GM like the deal but it got shot down when they sought approval from the owner.

    Wouldn't be the first time it's happened in this league.
    I hope this isnt true. This will give all of our hopes up Man I thought finally Tinsley was gone. Theres rumors that Miami is using Marion as trade bait because he is not in their long term plans
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    Denver has been aware of Jamaal's contract situation long before trade talks heated up. It isn't like this is a new revelation.
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    Denver has been aware of Jamaal's contract situation long before trade talks heated up. It isn't like this is a new revelation.
    good point. Maybe one side is trying to sweeten the deal for the other
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    Denver has been aware of Jamaal's contract situation long before trade talks heated up. It isn't like this is a new revelation.
    True enough, but the comments about another entity (such as the owner) nixing the deal is still very possible. GM works out best deal he feels Indy will give him and tells Indy he'll run it by ownership... and ownership says "How much??? Tinsley???? No thanks!"

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    True enough, but the comments about another entity (such as the owner) nixing the deal is still very possible. GM works out best deal he feels Indy will give him and tells Indy he'll run it by ownership... and ownership says "How much??? Tinsley???? No thanks!"

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    im surprised it leaked so far out to the media, if it hasnt even been run by ownership.
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    im surprised it leaked so far out to the media, if it hasnt even been run by ownership.
    It's not all that surprising if this line of speculation is true... Tinsley himself could be the initial source... or his agent. They might not know or care if ownership hasn't signed on yet. They might even assume ownership would fine with the deal.
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    Standard negotiation tactics. The Nuggets are biting like a hungry fish.

    If they really were not going to do the deal because of Tinsley's character, they would just say so definitively. So throw that one out.

    They know that if he plays to his potential he is worth the money....and they know he has no career threatening issues physically...and that he was out last year due to off court issues that they don't care too much about.

    The reality is, they are trying to squeeze a bit more out of the Pacers...and they will be successful unless they ask for too much. So, I expect this deal is going to get done because there are not many other options for the Pacers and Tinsley is coming to them pretty cheap. If they need to, AI can man the point...so this is a good gamble for them.

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    If they really were not going to do the deal because of Tinsley's character, they would just say so definitively.

    You mean something like:

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    You mean something like:



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    Yes, that quote said nothing about his character.

    Actually, the Dewey - Truman reference indicates serious talks have been happening. Sure, it may mean that a deal some thought might get done did not and will not...but it still tends to indicate the race was close (i.e that talks were advanced). I think the Nuggets are just looking for a few more votes from the Pacers...

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    Right on. Didn't really register "the character" part. Me bad.
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    If this trade goes through, I just pray that Croshere still makes the team.

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    Its doubtful that this will go through. Tisnley's contract is 1 more year then what Denver would like.

    Id say the % of this going through is about 20%....
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    Its doubtful that this will go through. Tisnley's contract is 1 more year then what Denver would like.

    Id say the % of this going through is about 20%....
    that would suck...i really want this trade to go through
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    Right on. Didn't really register "the character" part. Me bad.
    Yeah, I actually think BnG has a solid point here. No way that Denver was surprised to learn the details of a player they were considering trading for, not if it got far enough to be the thing that killed the deal.

    Negotiating. Deal might not get done, but both sides are definitely interested in feeling it out

    Look at it this way, if the deal brought them Granger, Rush, Ford, Hibbert and next year's first for the same basics they have to give up (ignoring contract matching for now) they'd do it. Tinsley's contract is not a "deal breaker", it's a "this particular deal breaker". They want more if they are taking on his contract. Negotiating, and perhaps it's a make or break point for them, but it's still negotiating to get what they'd really like.

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