View Poll Results: Who is your 2009 dream draft selection for the Pacers?

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  • Ricky Rubio, PG

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  • B.J. Mullens, C

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  • Demar DeRozan, SG

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  • Blake Griffin, PF

    17 43.59%
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    Default 2009 NBA Draft, Where will we pick and who will we take?

    As you can see below, the "mocking" of the drafts fro 2009 has already began. With the NBA being the only professional "major" league using the lottery rules, its pretty much impossible to calculate, guess, or project what team will pick where and who will pick who, especially at this point. In my mind, the Pacers are likely to be a team picking in the top five. My personal crush, Ricky Rubio, but everyone will argue since we added T.J. Ford and Jarrett Jack it would be dumb to add the phenom becoming known as "La Pistola", a nickname deriving from people claiming Rubio is the next Pistol Pete Maravich, some have even described him as a bigger Steve Nash and a European Magic Johnson.

    With that, we already have Danny Granger, and just drafted Brandon Rush, so DeRozan might not be the best pick up (fitting the Pacers needs). The last two, "top tier" picks, at this point at least, Blake Griffin of Oklahoma and B.J. Mullens, a freshman who will make his name known at The Ohio State University. In my mind, I dont see Griffin being the next Carlos Boozer like many are claiming right now, in my mind, im seeing him more as, I dont know, boring, Boozer with less productivity, and not worth a top 4 pick. If he fell to the Pacers at 5, I would pull the trigger, but with Rubio, Mullens, or DeRozan on the board, I wouldn't in a million years. Drafting for need, makes you just kick yourself in the *** later. Basketball rosters are the elitest of all professional sports, you can't make mistakes, you only have one (I guess two, if you're counting the second round, but striking gold in those picks is rare, I know of Arenas, I know Boozer was a 2nd rounder, Ginobli, Redd, etc. but thats a small, very small %) chance to strike gold. Especially when youre picking in the lottery. Just think of all the teams that drafted for need, and screwed their team over for years to come.

    In my mind, you have to take the best player available, I dont care if you already have an all-star player at that position, if theres another all-star available, and you dont think the others can live up to the type of potential that he can, you have to take him. The Spurs took Duncan when they had Robinson, look what that did? All-Star players, with chances at the hall of fame, find time to play on teams. BJ Mullens right now is being described as the next Bill Walton, a bigger and faster version to be precise, not because of his injuries (doesnt have any), but because of his talents. If the Pacers have a chance at Rubio though, we got to take him, I was reading on the Espana National Basketball team website that there is a chance Rubio might get a lot more playing time than originally projected in the Olympics, so tune in when Spain plays, oh and don't forget, their starter is the Toronto Raptors Jose Calderon (the reason the Raptors found Ford expendable) so every minute Rubio gets is more minutes away from Calderon, and Rubio is 10 years younger at age 17 (Calderon 27, almost 28).

    I want Rubio, I think Mullens would be an amazing fit, projected as a Center, if he was paired with Hibbert, playing PF, it would be an amazing "Twin Towers", shock and awe, thunder and lightning, ying and yang, kowabunga!

    Oh and, DeRozan would be pretty sick too, some people think hes the next Kobe...

    DraftExpress: 2009 Mock Draft

    First Round

    1 Ricky Rubio PG
    17 years old; 6'4"; 180 lbs.
    DKV Joventut, International

    2 Blake Griffin PF/C
    19 years old; 6'10"; 239 lbs.
    Oklahoma, Sophomore

    3 Demar DeRozan SG
    years old; 6'6"; 207 lbs.
    USC, Freshman

    4 B.J. Mullens C
    years old; 7'0"; 260 lbs.
    Ohio State, Freshman

    5 Brandon Jennings PG
    18 years old; 6'1"; 170 lbs.
    Lottomatica Roma, Freshman

    6 Hasheem Thabeet C
    21 years old; 7'3"; 260 lbs.
    Connecticut, Junior

    7 Earl Clark SF/PF
    20 years old; 6'9"; 200 lbs.
    Louisville, Junior

    8 Tyreke Evans PG/SG
    18 years old; 6'5"; 195 lbs.
    Memphis, Freshman

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    InsideHoops: EARLY 2009 NBA MOCK DRAFT

    1) Oklahoma City: Ricky Rubio (PG, 6-4, 180, Spain)

    2) Memphis Grizzlies: B.J. Mullens (C, 7-1, 260, Ohio State)

    3) Minnesota Timberwolves: Blake Griffin (PF, 6-10, 245, Oklahoma)

    4) Charlotte Bobcats: Brandon Jennings (PG, 6-2, 165, Arizona)

    5) New Jersey Nets: Tyreke Evans (SG, 6-5, 195, Memphis)

    6) Miami Heat: Jrue Holiday (PG, 6-4, 180, UCLA)

    7) New York Knicks: Demar DeRozan (SG, 6-6, 210, USC)

    8) Indiana Pacers: Hasheem Thabeet (C, 7-3, 265, Connecticut)


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    MyNBADraft.com: 2009 Mock Draft


    1. Memphis
    Ricky Rubio
    Ht/Wt: 6-3 / 180 lbs
    Position: PG
    Drafted From: DKV Joventut
    Class: International

    2. Charlotte
    BJ Mullens
    Ht/Wt: 7-0 / 260 lbs
    Position: C
    Drafted From: Ohio State
    Class: Freshman

    3. Indiana
    Blake Griffin
    Ht/Wt: 6-10 / 240 lbs
    Position: PF/C
    Drafted From: Oklahoma
    Class: Sophomore


    4. Milwaukee
    Demar DeRozan
    Ht/Wt: 6-6 / 210 lbs
    Position: SG
    Drafted From: USC
    Class: Freshman

    5. Minnesota
    Hasheem Thabeet
    Ht/Wt: 7-2 / 260 lbs
    Position: C
    Drafted From: Connecticut
    Class: Junior

    6. New Jersey
    Brandon Jennings
    Ht/Wt: 6-1 / 170 lbs
    Position: PG
    Drafted From: Arizona
    Class: Freshman

    7. New York
    Austin Daye
    Ht/Wt: 6-10 / 190 lbs
    Position: SF/PF
    Drafted From: Gonzaga
    Class: Sophomore

    8. Sacramento

    Earl Clark
    Ht/Wt: 6-9 / 200 lbs
    Position: SF/PF
    Drafted From: Louisville
    Class: Junior

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    OwnMyTeam: 2009 Mock Draft

    1. Blake Griffin PF 6-10, 243lbs, Oklahoma, Sophomore

    2. Ricky Rubio PG 6-4, 180lbs, International

    3. Demar DeRozan SG 6-6, 210lbs, USC or International

    4. Brandon Jenning PG 6-1, 170lbs, International

    5. BJ Mullins C 7-0, 260lbs, Ohio State, Freshman

    6. Al-Faroug Aminu SF 6-9, 210lbs, Wake Forest, Freshman

    7. Jrue Holiday SG 6-3. 205lbs, UCLA, Freshman

    8. Hasheem Thabeet, C 7-3. 265lbs, Conn, Junior

    ---

    (Other 2009 Mock Drafts)

    NBADraft.net

    11. Indiana Brandon Jennings

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    BJ Mullens



    Ricky Rubio



    Demar DeRozan




    Blake Griffin

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    Default Re: 2009 NBA Draft, Where will we pick and who will we take?

    First of all, I'm hardly convinced we'll be picking that high.

    Secondly, why are we talking about the 2009 draft in August of 2008?

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    The 09 draft doesn't look to be that good. I almost wouldn't mind seeing the pick be traded.

    I do like Earl Clark. Although we are pretty set on the wings if he can play the 4 i'd love to add him.

    Hopefully we have a fairly low pick though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks View Post
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    First of all, I'm hardly convinced we'll be picking that high.

    Secondly, why are we talking about the 2009 draft in August of 2008?
    Why?

    1. Ricky Rubio is playing the the 2008 Olympics that begin in 3 days. The first and likely only chance America, and Pacers fans, will get to see the projected number 1 overall pick in the NBA Draft play, and the kids only 17, playing in the Olympics!

    2. You always have to look ahead, we aren't a contender now, I would much rather talk about actual likely players we might have on our team in the future, rather than Charlie Villanueva.

    3. Because its awesome, these players are awesome, and we are probably going to be a top five pick, by odds, so that could land us the number one pick by chance.

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    Good question.

    1. I'm excited to see Rubio.

    2. I'll pay close attention to college ball this year, like most years, but Thabeet is really the only guy I feel like I know what he does (or doesn't do, more accurately)

    3. I really really don't think they'll be picking top 5, I'd expect to be in the middle teens.

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    The 09 draft doesn't look to be that good. I almost wouldn't mind seeing the pick be traded.

    I do like Earl Clark. Although we are pretty set on the wings if he can play the 4 i'd love to add him.

    Hopefully we have a fairly low pick though.

    How??? That is just stupid hype by the uneducated media, you obviously have no basis for that argument.

    Ricky Rubio is bigger and better (especially at 17) than Derek Rose, not to mention he has been playing professionally since he was 13.

    Demar DeRozan would ball Russel Westbrook up all day long, he could do it right now, I would love to see Westbrook bring that "amazing" D to Compton High School, DeRozan would ball him up, dunk on his face, and laugh at the Sonics pick.

    BJ Mullens, bigger, better, and more unique a prospect that Beasley and Kevin Love combined!

    Then there is Blake Griffin, he could actually end up as good as Boozer, you never know.

    Then you got Jennings, Evans, Curry's kid, etc. etc. etc., I think that is just the media being dumb and not knowing about basketball. I think this draft is going to be nasty. The last two drafts were all about two players, this one is going to be about 4-5!!! With a deeper 6-14 (lottery) too!

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    How??? That is just stupid hype by the uneducated media, you obviously have no basis for that argument.

    Ricky Rubio is bigger and better (especially at 17) than Derek Rose, not to mention he has been playing professionally since he was 13.

    Demar DeRozan would ball Russel Westbrook up all day long, he could do it right now, I would love to see Westbrook bring that "amazing" D to Compton High School, DeRozan would ball him up, dunk on his face, and laugh at the Sonics pick.

    BJ Mullens, bigger, better, and more unique a prospect that Beasley and Kevin Love combined!

    Then there is Blake Griffin, he could actually end up as good as Boozer, you never know.

    Then you got Jennings, Evans, Curry's kid, etc. etc. etc., I think that is just the media being dumb and not knowing about basketball. I think this draft is going to be nasty. The last two drafts were all about two players, this one is going to be about 4-5!!! With a deeper 6-14 (lottery) too!
    Um, for real, I'm up for the discussion, but come on.

    The warts will come out on these guys, just like they do on every player when scouts start REALLY looking at them. I mean I understand the whole SLAM magazine idea, but the NBA is the big boy leagues not Compton Highschool or whatever.

    The only 17 year olds who I could think of who could compete at the NBA level, AT 17, is Moses Malone and Lebron, thats it, in all of my life.

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    How??? That is just stupid hype by the uneducated media, you obviously have no basis for that argument.
    Statements like this don't lend your arguments any credibility. There are better ways to disagree.

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    I think this question is way, way too early. However, I do appreciate the work you put into asking it, so I'll go ahead and say Earl Clark. I don't watch enough college ball to make a respectable decision though.

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    Do you think Bracey Wright is kicking himself for not turning pro as a HS senior. Each year at IU revealed more and more warts.

    Meanwhile, Bender broke the bank, and each year with the Pacers the team realized more and more warts and kept him buried on the bench.

    These guys may all have tremendous upside. And I really hope the Pacers take the best PF of the draft with whatever top-four pick they have. But I think its silly to project the players at the top of next year's draft now.

    Sure, there's risk to draft choices. But in theory, we would then have a young team with all the necessary pieces, just needing experience and maturity.
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    Oh please - we aren't discussing the 2009 draft are we. I usually make fun of draft threads that start in March or April- but in August???

    get back with me about 4 days before the 2009 draft

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    I don't know much about any of these guys, but DeRozan and Mullens look very athletic and explosive. Other than that, I don't see much to get excited about. I hope the Pacers aren't in the top 5 for this draft. If they are, I wouldn't mind seeing them package the pick for an established NBA PF.
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    [quote=FerengiMiller;768985]Why?


    2. You always have to look ahead, we aren't a contender now, I would much rather talk about actual likely players we might have on our team in the future, rather than Charlie Villanueva.

    we will not have a chance at any of these players...not even a little one. enjoy the season
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    I think the Pacers wil be drafting around where we did this year 11-15. Except if we have major injuries to the following players Granger, Dunleavy, Ford or all. Our organization is out to make the playoffs and play good basketball. I do not see us in the early lottery unless the ping pong balls bounce our way.

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    I'd guess 1/3 to 1/2 of the players they project to be first rounders right now wont be when the draft actually rolls around.

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    [quote=FerengiMiller]

    Demar DeRozan would ball Russel Westbrook up all day long, he could do it right now, I would love to see Westbrook bring that "amazing" D to Compton High School, DeRozan would ball him up, dunk on his face, and laugh at the Sonics pick.

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    I'm sorry, but that's absolutely absurd. I don't care who you are, no high school kid is going to school a guy who was the defensive stopper on one of the best college programs in the country last year, especially when that guys defense was seen to be good enough to translate over to the next level. That's a silly statement.

    Unless Ricky Rubio turns out to be some incredible player, than this is a pretty weak draft. You could get a Boozer-type guy out of this draft in Mullens and that's it.

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    I'd guess 1/3 to 1/2 of the players they project to be first rounders right now wont be when the draft actually rolls around.
    And there will be more than a couple of guys in the lottery who aren't hardly even on the radar. Ex Westbrook.

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    Any draft that has Thabeet sniffing the top 5 is busted.

    If we end up with a Hibbert/Thabeet frontcourt, I'm going to be sick.

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    And there will be more than a couple of guys in the lottery who aren't hardly even on the radar. Ex Westbrook.
    That goes without saying. If people fall off the map someone else will fill the spot.

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    Any draft that has Thabeet sniffing the top 5 is busted.

    If we end up with a Hibbert/Thabeet frontcourt, I'm going to be sick.
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    What I'm reading is that Bird didn't properly do his job at running the Pacers since he took over, and the Pacers are a top 4 lottery pick next year with the trades and draft picks Bird has gotten. I'm anything but a Bird fan, but Bird has made this team "better" than last years team yet they are going to be a top 4 pick team this coming season. WOW, JUST WOW!!

    My response is like Hicks and UB's, why is this topic even being discussed at the present time? I remember when posters and mocks had Bayless and B. Lopez as can't miss top 4-5 picks, and then the flaws or fears came out when the workouts and interviews took place. The same as every draft.

    Get back with me after the 08-09 season is over concerning draft prospects.

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    Shade, you are still sick from this past draft, don't start getting sick for the 2009 draft also - give yourself a chance to recover
    Thabeet makes Hibbert look like the Flash.

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    First of all, I'm hardly convinced we'll be picking that high.

    Secondly, why are we talking about the 2009 draft in August of 2008?
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Thabeet makes Hibbert look like the Flash.
    Are you serious? Thabeet is the exact opposite of Hibbert. He is known only for his speed and athleticism and total lack of skills. Hibbert is the opposite.

    At least that is what I have read.
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