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    We've danced around this for years and now with all of the batman, watchman, Iron Man and other talk due to the movies I figure we might as well go ahead and assure that not a single woman will ever be involved in this thread.

    Yes kids that's right, it's the comic book thread.

    I put Graphic Novels and Paperbacks on there just so we didn't have to totally feel nerdy.

    This is the thread to talk about all things comic related.

    Marvel, Top Cow, DC (if you must), and all of the others out there.

    Talk about what is going on, what you like, what you hate, Something you'd like to see.

    I'll start this off like I do so many Pacers posts, with a question.

    What is the most valuable Comic Book you own?

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    Is it worth $11 on Amazon to buy Watchmen? I know nothing about it, but I hear many think it's amazing or whathaveyou.

    As for your question, I'm not sure if I own any comics anymore, but if I do, it would include Thunderbolts #1 and Sensational Spider-Man #0, I believe. But I think both may have been lost a long time ago.

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    To be honest with you 11.00 seems like a bargain right now. I've been on ebay this evening looking at it and have yet to even see the reprint for less than 15.00 with usually 9.00 for shipping.

    It's a DC book so in all honesty I haven't read it either but I am willing to pick it up.

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    It's definitely worth it Hicks, I did it when LA started talking about it and it's really good.

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    Regarding Watchmen, you shouldn't necessarily take my word for it because I'm a total fanboy.

    Just know that it is the only comic to ever get a Hugo Award. In fact, they didn't even know how to categorize it. (Novel, Novella, Novelette and Short Story were the available fiction categories, so in 1988 they created a new category called "Other Forms" to honor Watchmen, and have never given another "Other Forms" award since).

    http://dpsinfo.com/awardweb/hugos/80s.html

    Watchmen was also the only graphic novel listed among Time Magazine's "Top 100 Novels Since 1923," sitting on a list that included To Kill A Mockingbird, Catch 22 and The Grapes of Wrath.

    http://www.time.com/time/2005/100boo...lete_list.html

    I don't know if it really deserves to be on that list, but there is little debate regarding where it sits among graphic novels and comics in general. At the top. You will receive very little debate about this.

    So here's my own little list of comic book / graphic novel favorites (I am not an expert or collector, so take this with a grain of salt)

    1) Watchmen
    2) Maus
    3) Jimmy Corrigan, Smartest Kid On Earth
    4) The Dark Knight Returns
    5) Sin City
    6) Blood, A Vampire's Tale (just totally freaky)
    7) The Killing Joke
    8) Marvel's Mutant Massacre Saga
    9) Dirty Plotte (I had to throw in an autobiographical indie rag, just because there are so many and they never get attention)
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    Is it worth $11 on Amazon to buy Watchmen?
    Yes. It retails for around $20.

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    What is the most valuable Comic Book you own?
    Either Transformers #80 or Venom: Lethal Protector #1 (gold variant). Each issue was worth around $30 last I checked.

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    Btw, I highly recommend attending ASH Comics and Shows. I always hit the $0.20 bins and come out of there with a bag full of comics for under 10 bucks. Last show, I got almost the entire Knightfall series for 4 bucks.

    The shows are always at the Holiday Inn off of 21st and Shadeland. The next show is Sunday, August 17th (same weekend as Gen Con for some reason).

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    Oh, and Amazing Spider-Man still sucks balls since the marriage retcon.

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    I don't read comics but my boss got me into 100 Bullets a while back.

    He brought in all the 10-issue trade paper backs and got me caught up on the first 70 issues or so and has been buying the new trades every six months or so when they get printed. It's a uber-complicated story (I think the plot arc is supposed to take 100 issues), which makes it a little annoying when I get the news ones since I read like the first 50 in a three-week period and now have a tough time remembering what side stories are going on and which character did what.

    Anyway...it's frickin' awesome. Really badass, brutal and graphic (pun unintended), and the storyline is pretty sophisticated.
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    I don't read comics but my boss got me into 100 Bullets a while back.

    He brought in all the 10-issue trade paper backs and got me caught up on the first 70 issues or so and has been buying the new trades every six months or so when they get printed. It's a uber-complicated story (I think the plot arc is supposed to take 100 issues).

    Anyway...it's frickin' awesome.
    I've heard good things about 100 Bullets. Never read any of it, though.

    I downloaded almost the entire run of Amazing Spider-Man not too long ago, over 500 issues worth, and am slowly making my way through those. Some of the early issues were pretty good, while others were laughably bad.

    Counting trades, I have every issue of Ultimate Spider-Man. Great series. One of the best comics on the market today.

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    The general plot is that some Secret Service-looking guy shows up at your door with a briefcase containing a gun and 100 bullets that are untraceable and that, if found at the scene of a crime or in some poor sap's body, will never be investigated.

    Essentially, the guy shows up and gives you a license to kill one person, and he always gives it to someone who has very good reason to kill someone.

    Hilarity ensues.

    And the art is magnificently well-drawn. And bloody.
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    I ordered Watchmen for 10.99 on Amazon this morning.

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    The general plot is that some Secret Service-looking guy shows up at your door with a briefcase containing a gun and 100 bullets that are untraceable and that, if found at the scene of a crime or in some poor sap's body, will never be investigated.

    Essentially, the guy shows up and gives you a license to kill one person, and he always gives it to someone who has very good reason to kill someone.

    Hilarity ensues.

    And the art is magnificently well-drawn. And bloody.
    Yeah, I knew what the basic premise was. It does sound interesting.

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    I ordered Watchmen for 10.99 on Amazon this morning.
    Good call.

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    Ok from 1981 till about 1989 I was an avid marvel comics collector. I purchased about every single book that came out (lots cheaper back then) then I got out of it from 89 to about 93 then in 93 I started getting a few titles here and there (mostly avengers line books) then I just totally got out of it in the late 90's altogether.

    Then Shade started babbling about something called Civil War about a year ago so I purchased all of the TPB for that. Now I've gotten all of the TPB for WW Hulk.

    A lot has changed, I mean a lot over the years. Some for the better some for the far far worse.

    I have all of my old books in boxes sealed up in old mylar bags and haven't even looked at them in years.

    But off of the top of my head I would guess my more valuable books would be (in no particular order)

    Silver Surfer # 1 (by Stan Lee and John Buscema)

    DareDevil # 1 (yes the 1960's version)

    Avengers # 4 (again the 60's)

    I have every single X-men comic from Chris Clearmont and Dave Cochrum other than Giant Size X-men 1.

    I have every spiderman from about 189 to about 400 (I think)

    I have the Hulk 181 which had the introdution of the Wolverine.

    The funny thing is though that I never collected comics for money, I just really always loved reading them.

    Today's books are really good as well.

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    I probably sold off a pile of comic books back in 1972 or so.

    Man I wish I still had them.

    $$$

    No such luck.

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    Peck, we need to have a get-together sometime. We have much to discuss.

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    Dorks

    Really I could never get that much into comics. I was a football card guy. I like the movies.

    Punisher was my favorite comic series. The movie sucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck View Post
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    Ok from 1981 till about 1989 I was an avid marvel comics collector. I purchased about every single book that came out (lots cheaper back then) then I got out of it from 89 to about 93 then in 93 I started getting a few titles here and there (mostly avengers line books) then I just totally got out of it in the late 90's altogether.

    Then Shade started babbling about something called Civil War about a year ago so I purchased all of the TPB for that. Now I've gotten all of the TPB for WW Hulk.

    A lot has changed, I mean a lot over the years. Some for the better some for the far far worse.

    I have all of my old books in boxes sealed up in old mylar bags and haven't even looked at them in years.

    But off of the top of my head I would guess my more valuable books would be (in no particular order)

    Silver Surfer # 1 (by Stan Lee and John Buscema)

    DareDevil # 1 (yes the 1960's version)

    Avengers # 4 (again the 60's)

    I have every single X-men comic from Chris Clearmont and Dave Cochrum other than Giant Size X-men 1.

    I have every spiderman from about 189 to about 400 (I think)

    I have the Hulk 181 which had the introdution of the Wolverine.

    The funny thing is though that I never collected comics for money, I just really always loved reading them.

    Today's books are really good as well.
    So you have the first appearance of Venom, Wolverine and Cap (silver age). That is amazing. I have every fantastic four from about 270-280ish to 400ish but nothing extremely valuable.

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    So you have the first appearance of Venom, Wolverine and Cap (silver age). That is amazing. I have every fantastic four from about 270-280ish to 400ish but nothing extremely valuable.
    Yeah, he's sitting on a nice little nest egg right there.

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    Ok I went and looked, in fact I have Avengers # 2. First apperance of Loki.

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    What's funny is that the books that are probably the most valuable are really not the books I love so much.

    I have the entire run of Master of Kung Fu and there were some outstanding issues of that. I have the entire run of Rom SpaceKnight and I loved that book. Crappy art but still it was fun.

    I have the entire run of Ghost Rider but now there have been like 2 or 3 versions of this since the first run ended.

    Not to mention all of the mini-series that I have.

    BTW, I'm giddy as a schoolgirl today because I just got my Increadible Herc TPB in the mail.

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    Nestegg, no kidding. You could send someone to college or buy a house with that, depending on condition.

    http://comicbookrealm.com/series/165/0/Avengers
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    Ok I went and looked, in fact I have Avengers # 2. First apperance of Loki.
    Jeebus, Peck, you're an even bigger geek than I imagined.

    Takes one to know one, though.

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