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    I do not understand why Reddick is selling himself so short as just a role player. He has the skill set to be in the basketball hall of fame. I am questioning his mind frame? He goes from One of the Greatest College Basketball I have ever seen to settling for crumbs after he gets his million dollars.
    He has the skill set to be in the H-O-R-S-E hall of fame.

    There is a difference. Is there a single skill other than shooting in which is he not below average for an NBA player?

    ball-handling?
    passing?
    running the court?
    movement?
    creating shots?
    exploiting mismatches?
    individual defense?
    deflections?
    footwork?
    team defense?
    rebounding?

    He was a wasted draft pick and I would only want him as part of the package to give up Turd-Sandwich Tinsley.

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    Is it just me or has everyone become extremely sensitive lately?
    I attribute it to the tons of new people who've joined post draft/recent trades. This board hasn't seen this kind of insurgence since the Runi days. New posters tend to be aggressive and will eventually find their groove, lord knows I was. Older posters tend to be aggressive towards new guys as well as some sort of subliminal testing of the waters. This board is vastly different than many others in that people actually debate as opposed to practically every other message board in the land where calling someone a D-bag means you won something. It's all good.......

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    F. Miller,
    Often times a poster will come to PD expressing a lot of love of a non-Pacer player. About 87% of that time the poster turns out to be a troll who was previously banned. Also when you are new and start making hyperbolic claims about a player even in jest after others disagree with you that gives the impression that you aren't interested a discussion but rather shouting over them and possibly getting arise out of them.

    That is the reason people reacted to you the way they did.

    But that's in the past. We don't like to dwell on things even as recent as the Bayless trade unless it is Bender, Brad Miller, Ron Artest...

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    I'm always interested in a pure shooter. Having said that I have no thoughts one way or the other though. I guess the question I have is, at this point, the legacy of Coach K is going to be filled with stiffs.
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    -snip- New posters tend to be aggressive and will eventually find their groove, lord knows I was.
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    JJ is one of my favorite college players ever. I loved watching him play at Duke.

    The problem is that he can't defend at all. Maybe if was taller like Jason Kapono it might help a little bit.

    JJ is going to have to be on a great defensive team, like last years Celtics, to be able to play.

    There is no doubt that he can shoot. That being the only thing he does wouldn't be so bad if he could defend a little.

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    Hmm. I'm gone all day and this is what I miss.

    I'm going to go through the thread and read everything one word at a time. For now, I apologize to Farengi for giving him such a poor welcome. I meant it as a toss-off joke, not a deep personal attack.

    Farengi, I'm sorry you were hurt by this.

    Now to actually read the thread and see what's going on.
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    Ok. I'm starting to work my way through... here's my thoughts on individual points.

    Quote Originally Posted by FerengiMiller View Post
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    (a)You're rude, I hate Duke, I hate J.J. Redick,
    Ok, I guess I can't argue with the first two words, but I'm a bit confused on the second part. I don't see any hating of Duke in your post, and I sure as heck don't see any hating of JJ Redick. I mean, your post shows a VERY high level of respect for Redick and his playing ability, as well as what he accomplished at Duke. I simply cannot read your original post and believe that you hate JJ Redick.

    Ferengii is a nickname Reggie has been given by NBA players since he first came into the league because of he similar look to the Ferengi's on Star Trek.
    I did not know that. I stand corrected. I'm not familiar with the Ferengis (Proper name? Alien race?), although I have seen Peck post the picture before. I hadn't ever heard/read the word before a quick Google search. It's the first I've ever heard about NBA players calling Reggie "Ferengii" though. Do you know that from personal knowledge/relationships with said players, or did you read it/hear it on a broadcast?

    (c) All of you can go date Jeff Foster since all of you are obsessed with having a over 30 glorified rebounder on a team destine for mediocricy because you know nothing about basketball, he is too old for this team and doesn't fit in, we need youth to help build or franchise to win down the road, not guy who are on the downside of their careers.
    I'll ignore this line of argument, other than to say that in my opinion, Jeff's career has more left in it than JJ's.

    PS: I made the case for Redick because of his "POTENTIAL" not his NCAA performance.
    Again, I'm unable to believe that. It might be your internal belief, but it certainly doesn't mesh with what your article says. In the article, you make your case solely from his NCAA career.

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    [I]I am not a bandwagon fan, I am a Bengals, Reds, and Pacers fan.
    As a resident of Cincinnati, I agree that any long-time Bengals fan cannot be a bandwagon fan.
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    Often times a poster will come to PD expressing a lot of love of a non-Pacer player. About 87% of that time the poster turns out to be a troll who was previously banned. Also when you are new and start making hyperbolic claims about a player even in jest after others disagree with you that gives the impression that you aren't interested a discussion but rather shouting over them and possibly getting arise out of them.
    Yep. Rough estimation, of course, but that's generally true. Maybe +/- two or three percent. Or are we allowed to use +/-?

    I actually kinda thought he was Kofi/Landry again.
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    I can't believe you got away with this garbage of a post. This is out of line, its mean, it has nothing to do with basketball and it is a blatant and purposeful attack on another poster.
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    I'll also say that FM did everything but take the high road after these insults, but his trollish posts were a response to something much worse and much more personally insulting.
    And this is the part where I get confused.

    I didn't think anything in my post was mean or insulting. (EDIT: After a third read-through, I could see somebody being upset by the Trek line. I can explain my reasoning, but I personally don't see liking Star Trek as anything shameful, although I'm more than a little behind on the lore myself. Other than that, it looks fine to me). It was apparently inaccurate, but none of those things were, by themselves, insulting. If somebody had posted that about me (either somebody brand-new to the forum, or an old-timer) I'd have laughed.

    I guess maybe you could say that it's mean or insulting to try and figure out who people are based on their posting styles, but what exactly was it that you guys found so offensive?
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    I'm not Kofi/Landry, whoever that is... I really don't like Duke and never liked Redick, but if he were to become a Pacer I would love him. It was a subjective article written from the POV of arguing that J.J. Redick would be a great fit for the Pacers. I didn't like Roy Hibbert, now a Pacer, I already love him. I didn't like Jalen Rose, but when he joined the Pacers I loved him. Same with Kenny Anderson, Rasho Nesterovic, Sarunas Jaskivicius, Flip Murray, on and on and on. I apologize for our dumb petty arguments.

    But as a resident of Cincinnati, everyone is always challenging me being a Pacer fan, especially now that everyone in Ohio "looooovveeees" the Cavs. I have been going to Pacers games on a regular basis since I was in Kingergarten. I got Reggie Millers autograph the first game I went too at Market Square and have been die hard ever since. My dad lived in Indy during the ABA dynasty after his college was over and got me to love the Pacers as he does. With Indy being 1.5 hours away from me and Cleveland over 4, it was an obvious choice. There will never be another team I cheer for, so challenging my fan hood is what made me the most insulted and mad, you can make fun of me all you want and call me a nerd, I really could care less, because I know it is BS and I knew I played high school basketball at a high level and even defended D. Cook well enough to be mentioned in the newspaper when we played Dunbar, but seriously fabricating vindictive things is just unnecessary, I'm not a baby but I don't like when I feel people are attacking me for absolutely no reason (especially when we are supposed to be on the same side, Pacers fans).

    From a guy who got in a wrestling match with his freshman year roommate of college (who had one leg), Kyle Boston, during the Pacers vs. Celtics opening round playoff series, due to the fact he was a Celtics fan because of his last name and told me I was a bandwagon fan, it is something I never took lightly and never will (we are friends still - that was a rocky week and a half haha, Pacers won though).



    I will continuing contributing because my love for the Pacers outweighs this stupid situation I have gotten into. To show I still want to debate and talk Pacers with all of you guys I posted a Trade Proposal that I think is pretty legit, check it out:
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    Believe me, if anyone can speak from the experience of having been picked on around here in the past, its ajbry.

    We don't sit around all day singing kum-bay-ah together, and there are two sides to every "disagreement."
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    I will continuing contributing because my love for the Pacers outweighs this stupid situation I have gotten into.
    Hey, for the record, I thought the comparisons were hilarious.
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    He's definately not Kofi/Landry...Kofi/Landry would never reveal his real name/identity on this site.

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    I didn't think anything in my post was mean or insulting.
    It wasn't. People were just being over-critical.

    If somebody had posted that about me (either somebody brand-new to the forum, or an old-timer) I'd have laughed.
    Ditto. Not an issue whatsoever.

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    He's definately not Kofi/Landry...Kofi/Landry would never reveal his real name/identity on this site.
    I consider myself one of PD's leading experts on Kofi, and I can assure the panicked masses that FerengiMiller is not Kofi (aka Quis, aka Y2J, etc.). Besides, Kofi has a few telltale signs - his/her/it's posting style is always the same and his/her/it's rantings follow a very precise pattern.

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    I'm sure this has been pointed out, but what kind of writer can't spell "ridiculous"?

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    Plans change. That's how I live my life now. Let's please move on.....
    Classic. God I needed that laugh.

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    I'm sure this has been pointed out, but what kind of writer can't spell "ridiculous"?
    It's supposed to be a pun. JJ Redick-ulous

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    It's supposed to be a pun. JJ Redick-ulous
    I can't believe nobody has posted this yet:


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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartlandFan View Post
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    Is it just me or has everyone become extremely sensitive lately? Now, before this post is deleted, please understand I'm not trying to be rude nor am I trying to give personal insults. It just seems like whenever there is a hint of one person not being 110% kind and polite to others, someone jumps in and complains about how hurtful it is.

    I think everyone just needs to suck up some of the comments sometimes and just move on. This isn't a daycare. Everyone here is a grown adult for the most part, and should be able to handle comments made regardless of whats said. Just my .02
    I agree heartland, people need to get over there "feelings" a little and relax. This is a message board, and the reason I like message boards is the collection of opinions and personalities you get. It's impossible to get a large group this diverse to talk about sports without the internet.

    It definately gets annoying if people take advantage of the fact they are simply a screen name and toss childish personal insults around, but frankly I don't see a lot of that here. This is without a doubt the tamest MB I have ever frequented. I really enjoy the group on here and read the board for a long time before I started posting on it. And I think the members of this board should take pride in that and actually enjoy it because it is a rarity for people who enjoy the message board experience.

    But cut some people a little slack. There is always going to be something a tad offenseive to you, especially on the internet. The bar for what seems offensive directly corrolates with the level of offensive behavior. The less offensive behavior you see, the more offensive certain behavior seems.

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    Welcome to page 1.
    Dang! Don't know how I missed that one.

    Sorry, HF - the distinction of flambeeing Jonathon Clay first goes to you.

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    Anthem = Stagga Lee

    Never heard of the guy, but it was just too good to pass up.
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