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08 and Beyond
There is a difference. Is there a single skill other than shooting in which is he not below average for an NBA player?
running the court?
He was a wasted draft pick and I would only want him as part of the package to give up Turd-Sandwich Tinsley.
Often times a poster will come to PD expressing a lot of love of a non-Pacer player. About 87% of that time the poster turns out to be a troll who was previously banned. Also when you are new and start making hyperbolic claims about a player even in jest after others disagree with you that gives the impression that you aren't interested a discussion but rather shouting over them and possibly getting arise out of them.
That is the reason people reacted to you the way they did.
But that's in the past. We don't like to dwell on things even as recent as the Bayless trade unless it is Bender, Brad Miller, Ron Artest...
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"They could turn out to be only innocent mathematicians, I suppose," muttered Woevre's section officer, de Decker.
"'Only.'" Woevre was amused. "Someday you'll explain to me how that's possible. Seeing that, on the face of it, all mathematics leads, doesn't it, sooner or later, to some kind of human suffering."
I'm always interested in a pure shooter. Having said that I have no thoughts one way or the other though. I guess the question I have is, at this point, the legacy of Coach K is going to be filled with stiffs.
The best exercise of the human heart is reaching down and picking someone else up.
Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you
JJ is one of my favorite college players ever. I loved watching him play at Duke.
The problem is that he can't defend at all. Maybe if was taller like Jason Kapono it might help a little bit.
JJ is going to have to be on a great defensive team, like last years Celtics, to be able to play.
There is no doubt that he can shoot. That being the only thing he does wouldn't be so bad if he could defend a little.
Hmm. I'm gone all day and this is what I miss.
I'm going to go through the thread and read everything one word at a time. For now, I apologize to Farengi for giving him such a poor welcome. I meant it as a toss-off joke, not a deep personal attack.
Farengi, I'm sorry you were hurt by this.
Now to actually read the thread and see what's going on.
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Ok. I'm starting to work my way through... here's my thoughts on individual points.
Ok, I guess I can't argue with the first two words, but I'm a bit confused on the second part. I don't see any hating of Duke in your post, and I sure as heck don't see any hating of JJ Redick. I mean, your post shows a VERY high level of respect for Redick and his playing ability, as well as what he accomplished at Duke. I simply cannot read your original post and believe that you hate JJ Redick.
I did not know that. I stand corrected. I'm not familiar with the Ferengis (Proper name? Alien race?), although I have seen Peck post the picture before. I hadn't ever heard/read the word before a quick Google search. It's the first I've ever heard about NBA players calling Reggie "Ferengii" though. Do you know that from personal knowledge/relationships with said players, or did you read it/hear it on a broadcast?Ferengii is a nickname Reggie has been given by NBA players since he first came into the league because of he similar look to the Ferengi's on Star Trek.
I'll ignore this line of argument, other than to say that in my opinion, Jeff's career has more left in it than JJ's.(c) All of you can go date Jeff Foster since all of you are obsessed with having a over 30 glorified rebounder on a team destine for mediocricy because you know nothing about basketball, he is too old for this team and doesn't fit in, we need youth to help build or franchise to win down the road, not guy who are on the downside of their careers.
Again, I'm unable to believe that. It might be your internal belief, but it certainly doesn't mesh with what your article says. In the article, you make your case solely from his NCAA career.PS: I made the case for Redick because of his "POTENTIAL" not his NCAA performance.
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Last edited by Anthem; 07-18-2008 at 04:54 PM.
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And this is the part where I get confused.
I didn't think anything in my post was mean or insulting. (EDIT: After a third read-through, I could see somebody being upset by the Trek line. I can explain my reasoning, but I personally don't see liking Star Trek as anything shameful, although I'm more than a little behind on the lore myself. Other than that, it looks fine to me). It was apparently inaccurate, but none of those things were, by themselves, insulting. If somebody had posted that about me (either somebody brand-new to the forum, or an old-timer) I'd have laughed.
I guess maybe you could say that it's mean or insulting to try and figure out who people are based on their posting styles, but what exactly was it that you guys found so offensive?
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I'm not Kofi/Landry, whoever that is... I really don't like Duke and never liked Redick, but if he were to become a Pacer I would love him. It was a subjective article written from the POV of arguing that J.J. Redick would be a great fit for the Pacers. I didn't like Roy Hibbert, now a Pacer, I already love him. I didn't like Jalen Rose, but when he joined the Pacers I loved him. Same with Kenny Anderson, Rasho Nesterovic, Sarunas Jaskivicius, Flip Murray, on and on and on. I apologize for our dumb petty arguments.
But as a resident of Cincinnati, everyone is always challenging me being a Pacer fan, especially now that everyone in Ohio "looooovveeees" the Cavs. I have been going to Pacers games on a regular basis since I was in Kingergarten. I got Reggie Millers autograph the first game I went too at Market Square and have been die hard ever since. My dad lived in Indy during the ABA dynasty after his college was over and got me to love the Pacers as he does. With Indy being 1.5 hours away from me and Cleveland over 4, it was an obvious choice. There will never be another team I cheer for, so challenging my fan hood is what made me the most insulted and mad, you can make fun of me all you want and call me a nerd, I really could care less, because I know it is BS and I knew I played high school basketball at a high level and even defended D. Cook well enough to be mentioned in the newspaper when we played Dunbar, but seriously fabricating vindictive things is just unnecessary, I'm not a baby but I don't like when I feel people are attacking me for absolutely no reason (especially when we are supposed to be on the same side, Pacers fans).
From a guy who got in a wrestling match with his freshman year roommate of college (who had one leg), Kyle Boston, during the Pacers vs. Celtics opening round playoff series, due to the fact he was a Celtics fan because of his last name and told me I was a bandwagon fan, it is something I never took lightly and never will (we are friends still - that was a rocky week and a half haha, Pacers won though).
I will continuing contributing because my love for the Pacers outweighs this stupid situation I have gotten into. To show I still want to debate and talk Pacers with all of you guys I posted a Trade Proposal that I think is pretty legit, check it out:
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He's definately not Kofi/Landry...Kofi/Landry would never reveal his real name/identity on this site.
I'm sure this has been pointed out, but what kind of writer can't spell "ridiculous"?
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I agree heartland, people need to get over there "feelings" a little and relax. This is a message board, and the reason I like message boards is the collection of opinions and personalities you get. It's impossible to get a large group this diverse to talk about sports without the internet.
It definately gets annoying if people take advantage of the fact they are simply a screen name and toss childish personal insults around, but frankly I don't see a lot of that here. This is without a doubt the tamest MB I have ever frequented. I really enjoy the group on here and read the board for a long time before I started posting on it. And I think the members of this board should take pride in that and actually enjoy it because it is a rarity for people who enjoy the message board experience.
But cut some people a little slack. There is always going to be something a tad offenseive to you, especially on the internet. The bar for what seems offensive directly corrolates with the level of offensive behavior. The less offensive behavior you see, the more offensive certain behavior seems.