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    Default The missing pieces to a championship.

    1. A scoring two guard.

    - Ray Allen
    - Corey Maggette
    - Quentin Richardson
    - Brent Barry
    - Matt Harpring
    - Doug Christie [Maybe]
    - Others?

    If Indiana could get more production from shooting guard, it would help out alot.

    2. A Center.

    - Theo Rattlif [Most likely not, Portland loves him]
    - Eric Dampieer [Not at his price.]
    - Others?

    3. Shooting off the bench.

    - Brian Cardinal
    - Carlbert Chaney
    - Kyle Koover
    - Casey Jaceobson
    - Richie Frahm

    Just to have someone who can hit shots. Probably not CJ [He would be through trades] but if we could get KK or BC cheap I would go for them.

    [color=blue:8cdee0f615]The transactions:[/color]

    1. 3 team deal. [Indiana-Golden State-Washington]

    - To Indiana
    - Eric Dampieer
    - Jarvis Hayes

    To Golden State
    - Al Harrington
    - Scot Pollard
    - Juan Dixon
    - Anthony Johnson

    To Washington
    - Jason Richardson
    - Anthony Johnson

    We add a center, I guess we're after him. I'm not a big fan of his but if Indiana wants him, I think this is an alright deal. And i'll admit ED played well, I just wanna see him continue that strong play. Hayes is a good scorer/shooter although he is not the player I think everyone visioned at the guard he will keep on improving. If we have Al in any deal [S&T] for ED I think this is a good deal because we get a solid two guard in return. If the coaching staff will help him with creating his shot and defense he would greatly improve. Which I think he'll work on himself this summer.

    Golden State gets something out of Damp. They replace him with Pollard to play center. Pollard brings toughness to that team. And J-Rich is in there because it seems that GS fans say they would do a flop of J-Rich for Harrington so this is almsot no diffrent. Its not like GS can really say what Indiana sends them in a S&T deal anyway. Atleast not that much.

    J-Rich and there star player, Gilbert Arenas are best of friends. This would probably get GA excited and energetic. Now if they can get a SF who complaments that dyanmic backcourt duo they would be in really good shape.

    I know Hayes is not the player we all see as starting at guard for us next season but realisticly he is our guy who fits the team better.

    We don't have the money to add up to Allen's or T-Mac's salary. I don't know that Indiana trades Artest and I don't see either team taking Harrington plus Croshere.


    2. Re-Sign Jamison Brewer

    He would be a defenseive spark plug off of our bench next season. Alot of energy.

    3. Sign: Calbert Chaney, Michael Ruffin.

    We add a couple of veterans. Chaney can shoot the lights out and MR can bang when needed.

    Draft.

    - 29: Viktor Khryapa- He brings alot of versatility. Would probably be smart to have him play a season or two more overseas.

    - 59: Andre Barrett- Can set up teamates, hit the jumper, or take it to the hole and score. Only 5'10 but he plays with alot of heart and passion and I think we should give him a roster spot. [Depending on summer league play.]

    04-05 Lineup:

    PG: Jamaal Tinsley
    SG: Jarvis Hayes
    SF: Ron Artest
    PF: Jermaine O'Neal
    C: Eric Dampier

    6th Man: Fred Jones [I would make him the 6th because he has been more consistant than Bender IMHO.]
    - Johnathan Bender
    - Jamison Brewer
    - Jeff Foster
    - Austin Croshere
    - Calbert Chaney
    - Michael Ruffin
    - James Jones
    - Andre Barrett
    - Possiable the 29 Pick.

    This team would be pretty good, IMHO.

    Tinsley will improve his shooting, shot off the dribble and set shooting still. So he will be better and RC will let him play with a little less restriction. Brewer off the bench would be nice. He has alot of energy and athletic abilty. He is improving his jump shot too. Barrett wouldn't see much time but he is only there to develope and see what kind of player he can be for us.

    Hayes would be able to add some shooting. Coming off screens primarly. Opening up things for Artest and JO. I also think Hayes will put the ball on the floor more too next season. Fred Jones would add some excitment and intensity off the bench.

    Artest would be Artest, I guess. Bender would get an oppurtonity to show his stuff. Calbert Chaney would provide shooting when called upon. If Bender gets injured, which would not be a bit of a suprise, CC is capable of stepping in and filling it up. James Jones also could be better but probably won't see much playing time no matter what.

    JO would still be JO. Still blocking shots and getting his 20 but hopefully he improves his ball handling-passing and shooting skills. Croshere would provide some shooting and veteran play. Ruffin is on the squad to give some toughness when needed.

    ED averaged 12-12 in the West last season, he would probably do about the same here. [He didn't have any kind of JO last season to grab 10 boards himself.] ED also gives us shot blocking. Jeff Foster played well when starting but he would be much more effective coming off of the bench. Giving his great energy and hustle.

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    Default Re: The missing pieces to a championship.

    God, I hope we can do better than this.

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    God, I hope we can do better than this.
    So do I but yet I don't know that we can.

    If Harrington's salary was bigger we probably could, we defentily could. [Get a Ray Allen or T-Mac much easier]

    I know that Hayes is not appealing but i'd rather have than just get ED in a S&T. I heard of the Harrington for Damp S&T rumors and if we are going to do that I think we should find a way to get a shooting guard. [Unless we are able to sign a better one]

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    Default Re: The missing pieces to a championship.

    God, I hope we can do better than this.
    For once I agree with you BP

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    God, I hope we can do better than this.
    For once I agree with you BP
    I believe that's the second time. :P

    I tried to find the other post, but my god, you have over 2,000 posts.

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    Default Re: The missing pieces to a championship.

    in a "deal" like that, you don't take hayes and let J-Rich go to Washington, if he was available you should prefer to make himthe centerpiece of the deal to us instead of Dampier and again, only take Dampier if he does NOT opt out.
    His current (2 more years) contract is something you night wanna chew on a bit, a new one would be higher and that would be a m00t point, he's simply not worth that much money.

    bad deal all around
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    Default Re: The missing pieces to a championship.

    Let me throw this name out here....
    #0 Gilbert Arenas!

    This guy has been known to fill it up, but I know that he is pretty new to Washington and I'm not exactly sure which position he plays...Point or SG?
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    I think that Washington has Gilbert playing the point. I think it would be really unrealistic to believe the Wizards would trade him.

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    in a "deal" like that, you don't take hayes and let J-Rich go to Washington, if he was available you should prefer to make himthe centerpiece of the deal to us instead of Dampier and again, only take Dampier if he does NOT opt out.
    His current (2 more years) contract is something you night wanna chew on a bit, a new one would be higher and that would be a m00t point, he's simply not worth that much money.

    bad deal all around
    I was just using ED's current contract as a rough figure.

    And I really don't think J-Rich fits this team.

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    Default Re: The missing pieces to a championship.

    2. Re-Sign Jamison Brewer

    He would be a defenseive spark plug off of our bench next season. Alot of energy.


    Is that the same defense that the Lakers are playing???? defen SEIVE ??? If so...I don't want him.
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    I've said before in the season that I can't quite put my finger on why I like Brewer, but I do.

    He was extremely intense on defense in the games I saw, and I really didn't think he stunk it up on offense any worse than Bender was wont to do from time to time.

    In fact, my (very discounted and somewhat embarassed) opinion is that if Brewer had been on the playoff roster we might have had someone in the backcourt who could stop Hamilton ...
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    Default Re: The missing pieces to a championship.

    In selecting who to put on the playoff roster, I suggested that we dress Brewer and leave Kenny off the roster.

    My reasoning was that I figured Rick wouldn't play Kenny anyway and that Brewer was just that, a defensive stopper against the lightening quick guards.

    I got blasted in another Kenny versus AJ debate.

    Go figure.

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    I like Jamison. Every time he got on the court last season, he played with incredible energy. I got peeved whenever he came out of a game, because he often was the guy who sparked a good run.
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