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    Question So, how do we fix the front court?

    PG - Ford/Jack/Diener/Tinsley
    SG - Dunleavy/Rush/Quis/Graham
    SF - Granger/Williams

    We're pretty well set here. But then you look at this:

    PF - Murphy/Foster/Baston/McRoberts
    C - Nesterovic/Hibbert

    And want to cry.

    So, how do we fix it?

    Well, we have Quis's expiring contract. We may also look to trade Dun if we decide to re-sign the "other" Rush. What kinds of deals do you see out there for the Pacers to bolster their front court?
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    I know everybody hates him, but if Harrison can be signed on the cheap, that would give us 3 legit 7 footers. But with Maceo and McRoberts added to that list, I don't see any reason that you have to make a move right away. See how things work, then address it at the trade deadline.
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    Udonis for Marquis?

    Free agency next season doesn't look too good. Maybe in 2010?

    I wouldn't say everybody, twowa...

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    well wasn't it reported we had interest in marion???? not sure we have the pieces to get it done though

    al harrington would be a nice pf in JOB's system

    andrei kirilenko maybe???

    chris wilcox??

    none of those guys excite me (except marion)

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    I know everybody hates him, but if Harrison can be signed on the cheap, that would give us 3 legit 7 footers.

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    I don't like our front court at all. However, considering that Ike seldom got in and JO was hurt, it can be viewed that we added two front court players.
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    Wait 12 months and draft a future all-star PF.
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    I'm staying on the 1 man bandwagon for Brandan Wright. He would be my #1 priority for the rest of the summer. GS really doesn't need him now that they have a less developed clone of him in Anthony Randolph.

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    Wait 12 months and draft a future all-star PF.
    ...and then trade him for who?
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    Williams if he is here and Granger will be playing a lot of power forward.

    Really though, yes we need an upgrade at one of the big spots. You won't win a championship without an allstar at either power forward or center . But we aren't close to winning a championship anyways. So I'm willing to be a little patient in obtaining a big guy.

    Really though the only player in last nights draft that would have made a huge difference would have been Beasley

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    I see some people saying wait until next years draft. The best two PF's (IMO) next year are both pretty undersized and neither are future all-stars (again IMO). These two being Blake Griffin who is 6'8"-6'9" 240lbs and Patrick Patterson who is 6'8" 220lbs.

    The best players in the draft next year ironically play the positions we just addressed (C, PG, and SG).

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    I think Bird is holding out hope that Shawne Williams becomes the PF he projected a couple years ago. This is the only reason why I think he wasn't included in the Bayless trade and we would get back Frye.. though it was probably more the case that Portland wants nothing to do with Shawne.

    Lamar Odom, Brandt, AK47, Marion.... the Pacers have a large number of expiring contracts (Foster, Daniels, Baston, Rasho) and an attractive trading piece in Dunleavy... a team like the Clippers or NY may be in need of a PG to take a chance on Tinsley, though I think NY and Memphis should swap David Lee and Kyle Lowry...

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    I don't expect to get an all star. I'm more concerned about the quality of our depth, having a player who can score in the paint, having a player who can cover others mistakes.
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    Tinsley and a second-rounder for Haslem?

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    There's 3 guys I like:

    Gerald Wallace- Maybe we could trade a package centered around Dunleavy with other players like Foster, Daniels, and Shawne Williams to get him? Don't know if the Bobcats bite, but it's worth a shot.

    Kenyon Martin- Physical defensive presence whose best years came in an uptempo system. He has a bad contracts, but we may only have to trade a package like Tinsley+Murphy for him.

    Brandan Wright- Not sure where he fits in GS, but I'd at least inquire. Maybe a package of Shawne Wiliiams+Foster? GS probably would want more, but what do we have to lose.

    Don't want Haslem. I don't like his character. I haven't heard good things.

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    Tinsley and a second-rounder for Haslem?
    You can't be serious. No way Miami does that.

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    There's 3 guys I like:

    Gerald Wallace- Maybe we could trade a package centered around Dunleavy with other players like Foster, Daniels, and Shawne Williams to get him? Don't know if the Bobcats bite, but it's worth a shot.

    Kenyon Martin- Physical defensive presence whose best years came in an uptempo system. He has a bad contracts, but we may only have to trade a package like Tinsley+Murphy for him.

    Brandan Wright- Not sure where he fits in GS, but I'd at least inquire. Maybe a package of Shawne Wiliiams+Foster? GS probably would want more, but what do we have to lose.

    Don't want Haslem. I don't like his character. I haven't heard good things.
    Gerald Wallace is not a PF but a SF.

    Kenyon is breaking down and would be JO part II (Now with more attitude!). No thanks.

    Brandan Wright is part of GS's future core at PF... There is no way GS gives him up and your proposed trade isn't even close on the salary match requirements. And they dont need Shawne as they've just picked up their SF of the future in Randolph.
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    What do you think the asking price is for Marion?
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    What about David Lee? New York reportedly was shopping him before the draft in a deal that would send him to Memphis, but Lee nixed the deal by not agreeing to re-sign with the Grizzlies. We would have to take back Jerome James (2yrs - $12.8 mil) and Lee (2yrs - $3.3 mil) and offer perhaps Daniels (1yr -$6.8 mil). This saves NY about $10 million, doesn't commit us beyond 2 years, and shores up the PF position.

    Perhaps we could even take Jared Jeffries off their hands (3yrs - $19.2 mil) and include Tinsley (3yrs - $21 mil) as part of the deal.

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    I really think Shawne could do ok at the 4 if he's playing alongside a big body like Hibbert. Same can be said for Murph.

    Here are some deals I came up with anyways.

    1.) Shawne for Shelden Williams
    2.) Tins & Murph for Kenyon Martin
    3.) Tins & Murph for Zach Randolph
    4.) Murphy & Shawne for Diaw
    5.) Shawne, Foster, & possibly a future pick for Tyrus Thomas & filler.
    6.) Shawne for Frye
    7.) Dunleavy & Foster for Odom
    8.) Foster & Shawne for Wilcox
    9.) Dunleavy & Foster for Kirilenko
    10.) Murphy for Nene

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    Wait 12 months and draft a future all-star PF.
    How many teams will be passing on this miracle guy this time?
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