Bucher has always been wrong about everything...
press pause on the second slow-mo replay around 0:12 mark
...You know the one... Where everyone is healthy as they have been in years. Everyone has worked on their games diligently all summer long and are ready to take the next step. They've all found the perfect diet. Sometimes players even grow an inch or two.
Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."
But it's his only basketball-related post, which makes me think he registered just to say that. So I'm thinking inside info.
This space for rent.
Bucher said that Cleveland, Toronto, NJ, and NY are all in play for JO. I think all are good trading partners except NY because they don't have extra picks. The most intriuging deal to me is NJ, they could put together a deal of Jefferson, M. Williams, 21st pick, and Van Horn for JO. That by far would be the best available deal for JO. Let's not forget the Nets are putting themselves in postion for LeBron, it makes a ton of sense with JO's expiring contract.
What do you mean by "right now?" Do you mean at the end of last season? Or are you saying that you've watched him in Las Vegas or talked with someone who has?
This vvvv sounds as if you have better knowledge than the rest here have. Do you?
Was looking for some info on the trade rumors, just felt that I should try and add a little to clear things up a bit.
And as others have said, Welcome.
Last edited by Putnam; 06-25-2008 at 02:48 PM.
And I won't be here to see the day
It all dries up and blows away
I'd hang around just to see
But they never had much use for me
In Levelland. (James McMurtry)
When was the last time Ric was right about a trade? I'm just wondering because I'm still waiting for JO to get traded to the Lakers.
Bucher is reporting a trade between the pacers and Cavs
I don't like this one at all - will be shocked if this even is seriously discussed
JO for Wally and Anderson Verajas & 19th pick
Bucher is on Eddie and Kravitz right now
JO is the most likely big name to be moved by Thursday night.
I'm going to post something that I never have before - Pacers probably could trade Foster if the Cavs deal took place.
Last edited by Unclebuck; 06-25-2008 at 03:13 PM.
That trade = huge suck
I may be extremely down on this franchise after Thursday night, with the way rumors are going.
Koufos or Hibbert/Foster
I really, really, really don't see the logic behind the Cleveland trade.
That is the logic behind the trade - not that I agree with it, but there is a case that can be made. Reporter from Cleveland is on Eddie and Kravitz right now
Last edited by Unclebuck; 06-25-2008 at 03:23 PM.
Who says the Pacers are definetely drafting a PG at 11?
I think the Varejao thing is valid, but more of a rationale than a reason, and it's possible they see some short-term utility in Wally, but...ugh.
If you're going to go whole-hog on the financial angle, then I'd insist Cleveland include Snow, and we include Tinsley. This would cut $34 million in future contract commitments off of our books.
I wouldn't particularly like that deal (I hate the current one proposed), but at least you could say you cleaned up all of the headaches and can start from scratch with some financial flexibility.
The guy from Cleveland says it might be too much for the Cavs to give up.
Yep, the Cleveland deal makes infinitely more sense if we can clear Tinsley's contract off the books. Which I think the Cavs could actually get behind the idea.