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    Bucher has always been wrong about everything...
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    Default Re: Ric Beucher on JO trade

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    If this trade goes thru it will probably not be announced til after the draft so the teams can verify the players they wanted are available.
    word.

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    Jermaine is completely healthy, and works out 5 days a week diligently. His knee is fine.
    And his 3PT shooting is dramatically improved...

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    Welcome to the board, NPH!

    Honest question... is this sarcasm or inside info?
    Maybe NPH is just readying the normal mid-summer or preseason Pacer report for the Star

    ...You know the one... Where everyone is healthy as they have been in years. Everyone has worked on their games diligently all summer long and are ready to take the next step. They've all found the perfect diet. Sometimes players even grow an inch or two.


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    Maybe NPH is just readying the normal mid-summer or preseason Pacer report for the Star

    ...You know the one... Where everyone is healthy as they have been in years. Everyone has worked on their games diligently all summer long and are ready to take the next step. They've all found the perfect diet. Sometimes players even grow an inch or two.

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    That's totally unfair. The Star doesn't usually run those articles until LATE summer.

    But it's his only basketball-related post, which makes me think he registered just to say that. So I'm thinking inside info.
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    Jermaine is completely healthy, and works out 5 days a week diligently. His knee is fine.
    JO? Morway? Joe Quatato, don't you need elbows to type?

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    Joe Quatato, don't you need elbows to type?
    I thought about nominating that for Post of the Year, but in a year no one is going to remember who he is.

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    And his 3PT shooting is dramatically improved...
    Meh, take it for what it is. His shooting is really good right now from mid range, but I have no clue on his 3pt ability as of now or if it got any better, as he doesn't take those shots. The important thing is that his defensive side of things look really good right now.

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    Maybe NPH is just readying the normal mid-summer or preseason Pacer report for the Star
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    Never even heard of the Star.

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    But it's his only basketball-related post, which makes me think he registered just to say that.
    Was looking for some info on the trade rumors, just felt that I should try and add a little to clear things up a bit.

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    Jermaine is completely healthy, and works out 5 days a week diligently. His knee is fine.
    Is that you J.O. ?

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    Bucher said that Cleveland, Toronto, NJ, and NY are all in play for JO. I think all are good trading partners except NY because they don't have extra picks. The most intriuging deal to me is NJ, they could put together a deal of Jefferson, M. Williams, 21st pick, and Van Horn for JO. That by far would be the best available deal for JO. Let's not forget the Nets are putting themselves in postion for LeBron, it makes a ton of sense with JO's expiring contract.

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    Bucher said that Cleveland, Toronto, NJ, and NY are all in play for JO. I think all are good trading partners except NY because they don't have extra picks. The most intriuging deal to me is NJ, they could put together a deal of Jefferson, M. Williams, 21st pick, and Van Horn for JO. That by far would be the best available deal for JO. Let's not forget the Nets are putting themselves in postion for LeBron, it makes a ton of sense with JO's expiring contract.
    When did he say this?

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    Meh, take it for what it is. His shooting is really good right now from mid range, but I have no clue on his 3pt ability as of now or if it got any better, as he doesn't take those shots. The important thing is that his defensive side of things look really good right now.

    What do you mean by "right now?" Do you mean at the end of last season? Or are you saying that you've watched him in Las Vegas or talked with someone who has?


    This vvvv sounds as if you have better knowledge than the rest here have. Do you?

    Was looking for some info on the trade rumors, just felt that I should try and add a little to clear things up a bit.

    And as others have said, Welcome.


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    When was the last time Ric was right about a trade? I'm just wondering because I'm still waiting for JO to get traded to the Lakers.

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    Bucher is reporting a trade between the pacers and Cavs
    could happen.

    I don't like this one at all - will be shocked if this even is seriously discussed

    JO for Wally and Anderson Verajas & 19th pick

    Bucher is on Eddie and Kravitz right now

    JO is the most likely big name to be moved by Thursday night.


    I'm going to post something that I never have before - Pacers probably could trade Foster if the Cavs deal took place.
    Last edited by Unclebuck; 06-25-2008 at 03:13 PM.

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    Bucher is reporting a trade between the pacers and Cavs
    could happen.

    I don't like this one at all - will be shocked if this even is seriously discussed

    JO for Wally and Anderson Verajas & 19th pick

    Bucher is on Eddie and Kravitz right now

    JO is the most likely big name to be moved by Thursday night
    That trade = huge suck

    I may be extremely down on this franchise after Thursday night, with the way rumors are going.

    Koufos or Hibbert/Foster
    Varejao/Murphy/Diogu
    Granger/WallyWorld
    Dunleavy/Quis/Graham
    Chalmers?/Diener

    Meh.
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    Default Re: Ric Beucher on JO trade (update JO to Cavs?) (Update Post #41)

    I really, really, really don't see the logic behind the Cleveland trade.

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    I really, really, really don't see the logic behind the Cleveland trade.
    Varajas allows the Pacers to trade Foster, Wally has an expiring contract. At 11 the pacers are drafting a point guard anyways. At 19 they will take the best player still there.

    That is the logic behind the trade - not that I agree with it, but there is a case that can be made. Reporter from Cleveland is on Eddie and Kravitz right now
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    Default Re: Ric Beucher on JO trade (update JO to Cavs?) (Update Post #41)

    Who says the Pacers are definetely drafting a PG at 11?

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    Varajas allows the Pacers to trade Foster, Wally has an expiring contract. At 11 the pacers are drafting a point guard anyways. At 19 they will take the best player still there.

    That is the logic behind the trade - not that I agree with it, but there is a case that can be made
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    I really, really, really don't see the logic behind the Cleveland trade.
    The Cleveland deal is definitely a financially-motivated deal...$19mm reduction in contracts (prior to the #19, which would probably be 4yrs, $6mm, 1st two guaranteed).

    I think the Varejao thing is valid, but more of a rationale than a reason, and it's possible they see some short-term utility in Wally, but...ugh.

    If you're going to go whole-hog on the financial angle, then I'd insist Cleveland include Snow, and we include Tinsley. This would cut $34 million in future contract commitments off of our books.

    I wouldn't particularly like that deal (I hate the current one proposed), but at least you could say you cleaned up all of the headaches and can start from scratch with some financial flexibility.

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    Default Re: Ric Beucher on JO trade (update JO to Cavs?) (Update Post #41)

    The guy from Cleveland says it might be too much for the Cavs to give up.

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    Default Re: Ric Beucher on JO trade (update JO to Cavs?) (Update Post #41)

    Yep, the Cleveland deal makes infinitely more sense if we can clear Tinsley's contract off the books. Which I think the Cavs could actually get behind the idea.

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    Yep, the Cleveland deal makes infinitely more sense if we can clear Tinsley's contract off the books. Which I think the Cavs could actually get behind the idea.
    Everyone needs to repeat after me. No team will ever take Tinsley - I'll bet anyone any amount of money that the only way to get rid of Tinsley is to buy him out.

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