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    And while surrounding a PG with the "right team" is plausible, it's not nearly the same as surrounding a PG with 3 All-Stars who still play at a high level every night... Rondo is not a championship PG, he simply did his job on a championship team.
    That's basically what I meant. I just took "not a championship-caliber PG" to mean "the Pacers will never win a championship with TJ Ford as their starting PG."

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    If Boston can win a championship with Rajon Rondo as their Starting PG, then anything is possible
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    TJ is healthy. There's nothing to worry about. I'm happy Jermaine is coming to Toronto, As soon as I find out what number he is gonna use, I'm heading down the Air Canada Centre and getting my Jersey
    He wears No. 7 here; since he plays about half the time, I'd recommend No. 3.5

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    I wanted to bring this over from the Bird Press Conference thread.
    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...332#post741332

    I just watched the press conference.

    I think we have a deal set with the Raptors. It depends on who is available at 17. If the guy that Bird wants is still there, the deal gets done.

    I had this in mind before hand & the way Bird spoke about getting another point, as well as another pick in the teens leads me to believe they have the deal lined up.

    He also mentioned he didn't like to wait until Thursday to do these.

    Really theres several hints pointing to something like this already set, just depends if Bird's guy is still on the board at 17.

    It might actually have to wait until afterwards so the salaries match up.

    Also, if you want to think about players that can come in next year & help out, there are few that could fall into that catagory not named Brandon Rush.

    Several clues point in Rush's direction.

    1. Bird hasn't even hinted that we're looking at a 2.

    2. Bird did mention however that he wants someone that can come in & contribute next season. He's tired of waiting on the younger players to develope. Rush is 22, a 3 year college player & one of the best shooters in this draft.

    Year - 2 pt FG - 3 pt FG

    05-06 --.474 ---- .472
    06-07 -- .443 --- .431
    07-08 -- .435 --- .419

    3. Bird also mention that he had been looking at 4 players that could be available at 11. 2 most likely would be there, the other 2 he seemed less certain about. Rush, by most mocks would still be there at 11.

    4. Bird, according to his comments about Hibbert is concerned about someone that fits into O'Brien's system. The last time I checked, shooting 3's was still a large part of what O'Brien wants to do here. With Rush being 22, with 3 years of college under his belt & about as good a shooter as you'll find this year. I'd have to put the money I don't have on Rush being our pick at 11.

    Pair TJ Ford with Rush in the backcourt & whatever player Bird wants at 17 & I'm starting to get real excited about next years team.

    EDIT: I think that guy Bird might want at 17 could be Jason Thompson of Rider.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...draftyear=2008
    My bet is, he is & the deal gets done.

    He's been flying under the radar for the most part but he's a very solid 4 year college senior with very nice rebound & FG% numbers.

    I might not be able to sleep between now & Thursday night!

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    LOL. . .Bargnani has #7 already

    I'm guessing #44 since it's his HS number
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    Which you agree or disagree with? I just post that whenever someone says EJ's gonna fall. Partly to keep myself from hoping it happens? I don't know whether I'd want him on the Pacers or not. I had mixed feelings about him at IU. He could take over games, but he could suck real bad too.
    He was a freshman at IU so the sucking part doesn't really bother me. Add to that, the coaching change and all the other soap opera developments. He's going to be good and IMHO very good. Has a great work ethic. I would take him at 11 in a heartbeat and let him play the 2.

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    RASHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


    We just added The Rash. This is a good day. One of my favorite dudes in the L. (Not to mention, we picked up an actually decent PG and now have two picks in the teens. This is very good.)
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    For filler....I'm thinking ( and hoping ) that Baston would be a good fit as a 5th/6th PF off the bench. I would much rather have Baston then Moon.
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    Wow, and the plot thickens...

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    That'll work well then, I'm sure the Raptors would rather have Moon then Baston.
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    And the Pacers still won't have a center. Thompson is a power forward.
    My money is on Ajinca and maybe another big or Brandon Rush.
    Shoots and defends. So with Rush and Ajinca and Granger you have three very good
    defenders. They picked up a guard with Ford, now a center and a shooting guard
    would make sense. What is more important at 11, a center or shooting guard?
    I say center and if Rush is available at 17 I could see him picked there.
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    For filler....I'm thinking ( and hoping ) that Baston would be a good fit as a 5th/6th PF off the bench. I would much rather have Baston then Moon.
    Or Graham, who's name has been mentioned, as well.
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    I'm growing fonder by the moment of taking Rush at 11. He's about as small a risk as we could take and I feel he could be our future SG.

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    WIBC radio is going to talk about the trade in a few minutes. I think the guy in Indy that broke the story will be on to discuss.....
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    I wouldn't mind getting Baston, if he'd get some Playing Time. He'd play well with Ford. . If he passes the ball lol
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    WIBC radio is going to talk about the trade in a few minutes. I think the guy in Indy that broke the story will be on to discuss.....
    Listening now.

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    Or Graham, who's name has been mentioned, as well.
    From what I have read about Joey Graham...he's as dumb as a box of rocks....no Basketball IQ whatsoever.

    I would much rather have his brother and additional Frontcourt depth.
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    I would much rather have Baston then Moon.
    First, I'm a Baston fan.

    Secondly, I voraciously disagree with the above statement. Moon is just the kind of athletic defender I'd like to see us have. I don't see them giving us one of their starters as a throw in.

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    Listening now.
    They're talking about it now. Some guy named Jake is the guy that broke it is talking about it.
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    Great. . keep us updated
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    First, I'm a Baston fan.

    Secondly, I voraciously disagree with the above statement. Moon is just the kind of athletic defender I'd like to see us have. I don't see them giving us one of their starters as a throw in.
    Okay...no need to voraciously disagree about it....

    Moon is one of their Starters? I thought that he was a rotational player
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    Great. . keep us updated
    Just go to http://www.wibc.com and click "Listen Live".

    He's mainly talking about purging the players from the Brawl....nothing new.
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    WIBC stated that the deal is done in principle, and cannot be fully completed until July due to contractual reasons.

    They are also taking former Pacer Maceo Baston.

    The Raptors will select a player at number 17, but we will have the rights to that player.

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    LOL. . .Bargnani has #7 already

    I'm guessing #44 since it's his HS number
    He wore number 5 for Portland, so maybe that. Unless someone else on the Raptors has that number.

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