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  • Donte Greene

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  • Joe Alexander

    5 6.94%
  • Nicolas Batum

    1 1.39%
  • Darrell Arthur

    4 5.56%
  • Marreese Speights

    18 25.00%
  • Kosta Koufos

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  • DeAndre Jordan

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Thread: The PD NBA Draft - Selection 10 - Indiana

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    Default The PD NBA Draft - Selection 10 - Indiana

    1. Chicago ----- Michael Beasley ---- 51.67% 31 of 60 votes - defeated Derrick Rose 31-27
    2. Miami ------- Derrick Rose -------- 94.12% 48 of 51 votes
    3. Minnesota --- Brook Lopez -------- 46.67% 21 of 45 votes - defeated OJ Mayo 21-19
    4. Seattle ------ Jerryd Bayless ------ 55.56% 20 of 36 votes - defeated OJ Mayo 20-14
    5. Memphis ----- OJ Mayo ----------- 61.70% 29 of 47 votes
    6. New York ---- Eric Gordon --------- 30.77% 16 of 52 votes
    7. L.A. Clippers - Russell Westbrook --- 34.29% 12 of 35 votes - defeated DJ Augustine 12-9
    8. Milwaukee --- Daniel Gallinari ------- 43.59% 17 of 39 votes
    9. Charlotte ---- Kevin Love ---------- 84.62% 33 of 39 votes
    10. New Jersey - Anthony Randolph --- 66.67% 20 of 30 votes
    11. Indiana

    Point Guards

    1. D.J. Augustin
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/d...-profile-42326
    College: Texas
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PG
    Height: 6’0”
    Weight: 180lbs
     
    Accolades: Wooden Award All-American (08), First Team All-American – USBWA (08), All-Big 12 First Team (08), Bob Cousy Award Winner (08), First Team All-American - AP (08), NCAA Tournament South Regional Team (08), Big 12 All-Tournament Team (08), First Team All-American – CHN (08), Honorable Mention All-American – AP (07), Freshman All-American (07), All-Big 12 Second Team (07), Big 12 All-Rookie Team (07), First Team All-Freshman Team – CHN (07), McDonald’s All-American – high school (06), Fourth-Team All-American – Parade – high school (06).

    Scouting Report: A diminutive floor general with lots of game.

    Strengths: Lightning quick. Can get into the lane with ease. Good leaper. Uncanny knack for splitting double-teams. Good ability to use the rim as a shield and hit tough lay-ups to avoid defenders. Excellent playmaker and passer. Takes great care of the ball – twice as many assists as turnovers. Solid physique. Prolific scorer – nineteen 20-plus point games his sophomore year. Good three-point shooter – hit about two a game this year. Solid free throw shooter. Used to playing heavy minutes.

    Weaknesses: Height – will be vastly undersized for the NBA - may actually be 5’11”. Bigger, stronger NBA guards will give him problems on both ends of the floor (like against Memphis in the Elite Eight). Can be a streaky scorer – went 3 for 25 from the field combined in back-to-back games. Doesn’t shoot for an extremely high percentage.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Lottery to late first round pick.

    Consensus: If D.J. Augustin is to excel in the NBA he will have to be a trendsetter - there are currently no sub-six foot stars in the League. There is no doubt he has the speed, skill-set and intelligence to play at the next level, but to become a star he will have to be find a way to slay the NBA’s Goliaths

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    1. Chris Douglas-Roberts
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/c...-profile-42322
    College: Memphis
    Class: Junior
    Position: SG
    Height: 6’7”
    Weight: 200lbs
     
    Accolades: First Team All-American – CHN (08), First Team All-American – AP (08), Wooden Award All-American Team (08), Conference USA Player of the Year (08), All-Conference USA First Team (08), First Team All-American – USBWA (08), Conference USA All-Tournament Team (08), NCAA Final Four All-Tournament Team (08), Honorable Mention All-American – AP (07), NCAA Tournament All-South Region Team (07), Conference USA Tournament MVP (07), Conference USA All-Tournament Team (07), All-Conference USA First Team (07), Conference USA All-Freshman Team (06).

    Scouting Report: A very unorthodox, yet deadly, wing player.

    Strengths: Great slasher. Very good floater shot he is confident shooting from deep. Long arms (6’9” wingspan). Experience playing in big games. Decent ball handler. Good rebounder. Good height/length for an NBA two guard. Used to being the go-to guy on one of the country’s best teams. Decent defender – long arms helps get steals. Accurate three-point shooter. Shot for a fantastic average for a guard – over 53% FG all three years in college. Crafty player – knows how to get the job down.

    Weaknesses: Very thin – needs to bulk up a bit for the NBA. Not an off-the-charts athlete. Didn’t play in one of the top conferences. Can he guard the NBA’s top wing players? Needs to improve his assists to turnovers to play guard in the NBA. Good three-point shooter but didn’t hit very many – just over one a game. Missed clutch free throws in the NCAA championship game.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Late lottery to late first round pick.

    Consensus: CDR couldn’t have had a much better junior season with the Tigers (besides that loss to Kansas). It is hard to pin down how effective he will be in the NBA with his unique style, but with his good length and tricky game he should make a nice living in the NBA.



    Small Forwards
    1. Donte Greene
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/d...-profile-42345
    College: Syracuse
    Class: Freshman
    Position: SF/PF
    Height: 6’11”
    Weight: 226 lbs

    Accolades: Honorable Mention All-Freshman – CHN (08), Second Team All-Big East (08), Big East All-Rookie Team (08), USA Under-19 National Team (07), McDonald’s All-American – high school (07), First Team All-American – Parade – high school (07), Second Team All-USA Today – high school (07), USA Under-18 National Team (06).

    Scouting Report: An athletic forward with great size for the wing spot.

    Strengths: Great size for the small forward position. Great shooting touch. Can hit shots over defenders. Shooting range goes out beyond the three-point arc – hit almost three three-pointers a game his freshman season. Versatile scorer – three-pointers, fast-breaks, one-on-one moves. Can get out and run the floor. Very good rebounder. Good vertical. Can be an explosive scorer – fourteen 20 plus point games his freshman year.

    Weaknesses: Doesn’t have an above-average wingspan. Can he guard NBA small forwards or power forwards? Played mostly zone defense at Syracuse. Needs to work on his ball-handling. Inexperienced – only one year of college. Needs to cut down on turnovers – had more turnovers than assists this year. Shoots way too many three-pointers – almost eight a game. Needs to get stronger and bigger. His three-point accuracy (less than 35%) needs to improve. Inconsistent.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Late lottery to late first round pick.

    Consensus: There aren’t too many guys with Donte’ Greene’s size, athleticism and shooting range so NBA teams will be intrigued by him. But his draft stock is all over the board and he could use at least another year in college to get his body ready for the pros and to improve his consistency.

    2. Joe Alexander
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/j...-profile-42336
    College: West Virginia
    Class: Junior
    Position: SF/PF
    Height: 6’8”
    Weight: 230lbs

    Accolades: Honorable Mention All-American – AP (08), Big East All-Tournament Team (08), First Team All-Big East (08).

    Scouting Report: A perfect combination of size, skill and athleticism.

    Strengths: Very athletic. Great leaper – everything ends in a dunk. Finishes strong around the hoop. Great wingspan. Good size for a small forward. Good jump shot – gets high off the ground and has a high release. Can hit tough shots over defenders. Good body control. Ability to beat man off the dribble with either hand. Great shot-blocker for his position. Good passer. Can post up strong. Hard worker. His game increased each year in college. Good rebounder for a wing player.

    Weaknesses: Gets beat off the dribble – does he posses the foot speed to cover NBA wing players? Still inexperienced – a late bloomer – didn’t play much his sophomore year. Needs to become a better three-point shooter to play the three-spot in the NBA. Still inconsistent. Needs to improve his assist to turnover ratio.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Mid to late first round pick.

    Consensus: Joe Alexander had a breakout junior season at West Virginia and is primed to make some big-time NBA dough. While he is still inconsistent and a little inexperienced, his package of skills, size, athleticism and work ethic are rare. He should be a fine NBA pro.


    3. Nicolas Batum
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    Team: Le Mans
    Birth Year: 1988
    Position: SF
    Height: 6’8”
    Weight: 210lbs

    Accolades: French Junior National Team, LNB All-Star – France pro league (07).

    Scouting Report: A long, athletic wingman with huge upside.

    Strengths: Huge wingspan – over 7 feet. Great height/length for a small forward. Used to going up against top-notch competition – currently plays in the world’s second best pro league, the Euroleague. Held his own against the States’ top high school players in last year’s Nike Hoop Summit – 23 points. Shoots for a high percentage. Shooting range goes out beyond the three-point line. Very athletic – can get out and run and has good leaping ability. Length comes in handy on the defensive end – deflects passes and blocks shots. Very good playmaker for a wing player.

    Weaknesses: Inconsistent – doesn’t always assert himself. Needs to add strength and weight for the NBA game. Very young – won’t turn 20-years-old until December. Needs to improve his three-point accuracy. Needs to work on his shooting mechanics – needs to follow through more. More potential than finished product right now.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Lottery pick.

    Consensus: Batum’s combination of length and athleticism has NBA scouts drooling. Whoever drafts him will have to be patient, but as his game and body matures Batum could be an excellent NBA pro. However, similar to fellow Frechman Boris Diaw, Batum can get you a triple-double one night and then bring nothing to the stat sheet the next – his consistency and aggression level have been questioned.


    Power Forwards

    1. Darrell Arthur
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/d...-profile-42311
    College: Kansas
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PF
    Height: 6’9”
    Weight: 225lbs

    Accolades: All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (07), Big 12 All-Rookie Team (07), USA U-19 Team (07), McDonald’s All-American – high school (06), Third Team Parade All-American (06), co-Mr. Basketball – Texas – high school (06), 4A Player of the Year – Texas – high school (05 & 06), 4A State Title Tournament MVP – Texas – high school (05 & 06).

    Scouting Report: An ideal NBA prospect – big, strong, athletic, and skilled.

    Strengths: Very athletic for his size – can run the floor, good jumping ability. Good range on his jumper. Solid back to the basket moves. Gets good position in post and attacks. Good passer. Good shot blocker. Has the ability to take his man off the dribble. Long wingspan.

    Weaknesses: Will need to add some weight/strength to play the post in the NBA. Still inexperienced and young. Due to Kansas’ depth he never played major minutes in college – averaged less than 20 mpg his freshman year, less than 24 mpg his sophomore season. Also never put up big stats due to the Jayhawks’ depth. Foul prone.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Lottery pick to mid-first round pick.

    Consensus: Watching Arthur play he just looks the part of an NBA prospect. With decent size, wingspan and offensive skills, Arthur is made for the pro game. He might not be ready right away, but within a few seasons he should be a NBA starter.

    2. Marreese Speights
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/m...-profile-42365
    College: Florida
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PF/C
    Height: 6’10”
    Weight: 245lbs

     
    Accolades: N/A

    Scouting Report: A long, athletic big man who came on after being a relative unknown to start his college career.

    Strengths: Long wingspan. Shoots for a very high percentage from the field – over 60% each year. Practiced against three future NBA big men his freshman year (Horford, Noah, Richard). Nice shooting touch for a big man. Athletic for a big man. Good hands. Has good NBA size. Good shot-blocker. Very good rebounder. Got more consistent as his sophomore season progressed.

    Weaknesses: Very inexperienced – didn’t play much his freshman year. Age – will be 21-years-old in August, making him older than other sophomores. Has had conditioning issues in the past. Has to improve his low post game. Needs to get tougher. Needs work on the defensive end.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Late first round to early second round pick.

    Consensus: No doubt Marreese Speights has a future in the NBA due to his size and skills. However, considering he doesn’t appear to be a first round lock this year he should go back to Gainesville for his junior season.



    Centers
    1. Kosta Koufos
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/k...-profile-42331
    College: Ohio State
    Class: Freshman
    Position: PF/C
    Height: 7’0”
    Weight: 265lbs

    Accolades: NIT Championship MVP (08), Third Team All-Big Ten (08), Big Ten All-Freshman Team (08), McDonald’s All-American – high school (07), Greek Under-18 National Team (07), Under-18 European Championship MVP (07), Third Team All-American – Parade – high school (07).

    Scouting Report: A highly skilled big man with high-level international experience.

    Strengths: Big, strong frame. Along with 7-foot height he has a long wingspan. Hard worker – a gym rat. Good hands. Able to put the ball on the floor to score. Uses the glass wisely on jump shots. Tough rebounder. Possesses three-point range on his jumper. Great face up shooter. Soft touch down low. Great shot blocker. Was the best player at a high-level international tournament last summer. Seems to play better in big games.

    Weaknesses: Not super fast or athletic. Tends to face-up to the hoop more than post up. Can drift out to beyond the arc too often. Still inexperienced – big guys tend to need more time to develop. Does he have the foot speed to guard mobile NBA big men?

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Mid first round pick.

    Consensus: Players with Kosta Koufos’ size and skill package don’t come along too often, so his decision to enter the draft shouldn’t come as a surprise. While he would probably benefit from at least another year in college, Koufos should be an early pick this year and could pan out to be an above-average pro.

    2. DeAndre Jordan
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/d...-profile-42316
    College: Texas A&M
    Class: Freshman?
    Position: C
    Height: 7’0”
    Weight: 240lbs

    Accolades: Third Team Parade All-American – high school (07), USA U-19 Team (07), Two-time All-State – Texas – high school.

    Scouting Report: A big man with big “upside”

    Strengths: Long wingspan – blocks and alters shots with it. Soft hands in the post – catches difficult passes and converts. Good springs – can get off the floor. Can run the floor well for a big body. Good at getting post position. Solid rebounder. Shoots for a very high percentage from the field.

    Weaknesses: Still more prospect than NBA player right now – will need time to develop. Very inexperienced – only played one season of college ball and didn’t play huge minutes (about 20/game). Productivity declined as his freshman season went on. Still a little clumsy. Needs to add some more muscle to his frame. Horrible free throw shooter – barely above 40%. Offensive game is still a work in progress – averages less than 10 points per game.

    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Top 10 pick.

    Consensus: Whichever NBA team drafts Jordan will have to be patient with him. As the Lakers can attest with Andrew Bynum, the wait could be well worth it as Jordan has all the makings of a quality NBA big.

    3. JaVale McGee
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/j...-profile-42335
    College: Nevada
    Class: Sophomore
    Position: PF/C
    Height: 7’0”
    Weight: 237lbs

    Accolades: Second Team All-WAC (08), WAC All-Defensive Team (08).

    Scouting Report: A long, athletic 7-footer.

    Strengths: Extremely long wingspan – reportedly measuring at 7’6”. Very athletic for his size. Can run the floor. Attacks the rim and dunks often. Good hands. Makes quick moves once he gets the ball. Terrific shot-blocker. Has a good hook shot in the post. Has range on his jumper – can hit the college three-pointer. Able to put the ball on the floor and get by defenders.

    Weaknesses: Very inexperienced – only played significant minutes his sophomore year. Didn’t play in a BCS conference, so didn’t go up against top talent every game. Poor free throw shooter. Needs to get physically stronger for the NBA. Will have to learn to post up stronger for the NBA. NBA players will be able to overpower him and back him down when he is on defense. Extremely turnover prone – had four times as many turnovers than assists this past season.
    Projected 2008 Draft Range: Late lottery to mid first round pick.

    Consensus: JaVale McGee is the ultimate “high-risk, high-reward” pick. His length and athleticism are very enticing, but with his game and body still a work in progress there is no guarantee

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    Well we're down to our pick.

    I'm given you guys 5 days on this one.

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    Wow, I hope this is the case.

    Do I pick Augustine for immediate impact and need?

    Joe Alexander is the best available athlete and the best available period, imo.

    Darrel Arthur and Speights are a need at Power forward with JO on a 2 year or 2 month time period.

    I have to think about it. Joe makes the least sense, but that is how I'm leaning because I think he's the real deal and could actually play 4.

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    Can I pick Brandon Rush?

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    I have been advocating to draft Speights with the idea Alexander has already been taken. Since Alexander hasn't been, I have to go with Alexander even tho I still feel Speights is JO's replacement for the future.

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    Can I pick Brandon Rush?

    This seems really really possible to me now. I'm not going to pick it on this thread, but I could really see Bird doing it.

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    I'd be OK with Speights or Augustin here, but I went with Speights. I think he'll at least end up solid, (as do I with Augustin), but I think he could be a more bona fide starter.

    Maybe we could get that second 1st rounder and take Chalmers to help at the point.

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    Augustin based on need, and the fact that he's not a bum.

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    We desperately need leadership and a true PG on this team. The only one that will be available is Augustin. The fact he is small is a drawback, but you have to consider the huge issues with our current crop of PG's. He will be a major upgrade.

    As for bigs, Speights is probably the lowest risk pick has the requisite size. He would be a helpful addition to our front line. Arthur is listed at the same size as Shawne Williams...so I'm not sure why we would pick him. The other players are projects and we don't need that right now.

    I'd go with Augustin. Whether he is the long term answer, it is hard to say. He will struggle against bigger PG's for sure, but should be fine against most of them.

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    Can I pick Brandon Rush?

    I probably should have added Rush in the last couple of threads. There has been some recent talk of him going late in the lottery.

    Of the 6 mocks I follow he is listed as high as 13, 17 on 2 others, so its not out of the question Bird could have with on his short list.

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    I really have no idea what Bird's gonna do. That would be a good thing if I had faith in him. I guess I'll just pick who I want and leave it at that.
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    I'd pick Speights. I'm afraid Bird will go with Augustine.

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    I'd pick Speights but I'm afraid Bird will pick Speights.

    Shows you how confident I am in my selection!

    By the way, the poll is open for another couple days but its clear that Augustin will be the pick as choosen by us.

    Thanks to everyone that played along.

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    If we trade JO, we'll probably take Speights here. I just hope it's not Koufos.

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    if alexander is on the board at 11, I think the pacers trade back to 13 with portland and possibly trade up from 41 in the process.

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