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    MrsParko's superb take on the why it doesn't matter if we continue to call Dat Dude by his chosen moniker or the by out-dated Jermainiac will be getting my vote.

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    MrsParko's superb take on the why it doesn't matter if we continue to call Dat Dude by his chosen moniker or the by out-dated Jermainiac will be getting my vote.

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    What does Jermainiac have to do with that post?

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    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...66&postcount=2

    MrSparko on the Bucks new uniforms and a controversial stance on universal politics?

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    POY OT Nominee

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    I'm not sure it's a POY nom, but it made me laugh.

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    I liked the "Everyone Do Yourselves a Favor..." thread. Although it ended going WAY off topic, we got to the bottom of Portland's draft success and what is a good team-draft strategy. Additionally, we had some of the more fruitful Bayless/Rush discussions of this off-season.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=41624

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    Putnam waxes poetical in his praise of Hibbert:

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=41810
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    Anthem for violating the prohibition on perspective and reasonableness.

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    Anthem for violating the prohibition on perspective and reasonableness.

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    it's like i'm stuck in the ****in Matrix

    and i CAN'T STOP CLICKING
    OK...don't know how the **** that happened, but try this one:


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    Detailed, cogent, thorough: Count55's reply to the absurd question about replacing Coach O'Brien:

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    Newman going absolutely mental in the NBA Random Thoughts thread.

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    Putnam applauding Peck's idea and questioning his grammar at the same time.

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    So, What does a draft pick get ya? (Part 1)

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    post of the year.

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    Default Re: The "Thread / Post of the Year 2009" Thread

    seconded.

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    Thread of the Year:

    "Today in Pacer History"

    Jose Slaughter

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=43529

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    This post by Count55 is post of the year.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...420#post834420


    My opinion is that he needs smarter players. Or, at least, players who have better judgment. It seems to me that the players are working the system almost to a fault. In some ways, it's like watching my son's third grade team play. You work over and over to teach them something, then, in a game, they follow it to T, but they lack any instinct to adjust to the flow of the situation.

    Now, that is not to say that these players are stupid. In fact, I think it's an indictment of the system. The team is constantly forced to overthink, and two things happen: 1. they are too slow reacting, leaving them scrambling, and 2. The decisions are too erratic, creating a domino effect of guesses and scrambling. On any "bad" play, you're likely to see 2 or 3 guys making reasonable decisions that end up burning us because they don't mesh. (As example, I cite the Joe Johnson 3 in the last ATL game.). I also believe this is the main reason that you and many others (including me) can watch the defense and not be able to tell what the **** they are doing and what went wrong.

    This a defense that Derrick McKey could excel in, but Artest would be a disaster.

    Added to this confusion is the noted lack of athleticism of our big men. Foster is relatively quick, but he can't erase mistakes at the rim. Hibbert and Rasho are average shot blockers if they are in position, but they struggle to get in position...Rasho due to slow foot speed, Hibbert (IMO) because he lacks the instincts to read the play at this time. I think Murph's a decent player, and he certainly gives what he can, but he's just slow and weak.

    This is also why I think McBob tends to look so effective. He's got Foster's quickness, but has much better hops. In this system, with this personnel, he's going to have a lot of opportunities to make plays. The one risk with playing him more would be his inexperience creating more bad decisions. (A risk I consider well worth taking.)

    So now you've got a deadly combination of players who don't fully understand the system, don't really know each other, and lack the athleticism to cover there mistakes. The frustration goes, the trust declines, and players get more and more out of position, because they don't know where to go, and don't know where their teammates will be.

    Now, here is where I think the coaching staff is failing. They keep pushing the system they're trying to run, rather than adjusting and simplifying for the personnel. It's the classic failing of an ideologue. If it is working, it's because they didn't believe hard enough...the players didn't follow their assignments well enough. They simply refuse to believe that their faith could be wrong.

    Now, there are people who will say that Obie isn't interested in defense. I reject that out of hand, and I believe that I've provided ample historical evidence that his previous teams played defense, and played it well.

    However, his offensive system, as Bball has pointed out, is at the least putting additional pressure on the D. At worst, it's doing serious harm to it. However, I also think the offensive system itself is being exaggerated by the defensive woes. With no faith in getting stops, the team feels more urgency to score in bunches, which results in more and more possessions and more errors, putting more pressure on the D. All the while, the players go faster and scramble more, sapping energy reserves, resulting in less efficiency at both ends. We have become a snake eating its own tail.

    To this point, I have felt that O'Brien has done more good than harm with this team. They compete pretty much every night, and they have rarely thrown in the towel.

    However, this issue has reached the point in the last couple of weeks where I consider Obie to be hurting the team. It's not about play calling or substitutions (though I consider the McBob exile a potentially serious error). It's that he's not adapting the defensive system, and it's hurting the players. (I think Rush is a particular victim.)

    I believe he needs to play them more straight up. Everybody *****ed about the defense that Jack played on Kobe's game winner, but I would submit that if we played defense like that all season long, we might possibly be over .500 at this point. Call it the NBA version of the bend but don't break defense. We're going to give up points with this personnel, but we can do better than what we're doing.

    This, in turn, will allow us to slow the offens down a little. I don't advocate snail ball, because we don't have the half court weapons. However, if we just show a little more patience, I think we can remain potent while becoming more efficient at both ends.

    Now, it's possible that a year together will make this defense better. However, since we don't have a championship quality roster, we should assume a continued state of turnover. If Obie cannot make the system more easily digestible for new players, then he will no longer have any utility in my mind.

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    Default Re: The "Thread / Post of the Year 2009" Thread

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    Thread of the Year:

    "Today in Pacer History"

    Jose Slaughter

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    I think you can remove Buck's nomination for my post earlier, because imawhat just buries it with these two:

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...4&postcount=60

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...2&postcount=62

    And while I'm still a huge fan of Jose's thread, the thread itself should get nominated just on the sheer depth of substance. I have never seen anything like it on any board.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=43859

    "OK, I've been banging my head against the tv" (Thread starter: Peck)

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    And while I'm still a huge fan of Jose's thread, the thread itself should get nominated just on the sheer depth of substance. I have never seen anything like it on any board.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=43859

    "OK, I've been banging my head against the tv" (Thread starter: Peck)
    seconded. lots of great posts in there.

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    Bball with the best one-liner I've seen in a long time:

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    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
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    Thread of the Year:

    "Today in Pacer History"

    Jose Slaughter

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=43529

    Agreed. I was just getting on here to nominate Jose's thread only to see
    that it has already been rightfully nominated.

    Some of this historical information he keeps digging up is nothing short of
    amazing.

    An absolutely outstanding ongoing effort by Jose Slaughter!!!

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    Does Murphy steal rebounds from his teammates? Does Murphy get his share of hard rebounds? Does Murphy work for the good of the team, or just to pad his stats and trigger a performance clause in his contract?

    While everyone else was arguing, MagicRat went to work and edited every Murphy rebound from the Pacers/Bulls game, giving us actual evidence to argue with. We learned more from a one-minute video than we ever learned in school.

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    From the counting thread, courtesy of the chosen one:

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    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...&postcount=869

    Count55's response to an absurd generalizations.
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