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    Next saturday it begins. I see some of you have already put up the appropiate avatars. Of course Belgium is not participating again because we've decided we cannot longer embarrass the other countries over and over again. Or was it embarrass ourselves...? Anyway, this leaves me with the quest for a country to cheer for. Suggestions?

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    Default Official Euro 2008 Thread

    There are probably like two other people here who care about this, but here you go ladies and gents:

    Your Schedule (all times are local Austria/Switzerland time)

    All games will be on one of the ESPNs (1, 2, Classic). Check your local listings.

    Saturday 7 June 2008

    1Grp ASwitzerland18:00Czech RepublicBasel - St. Jakob-Park
    2Grp APortugal20:45TurkeyGeneva - Stade de Genève
    Sunday 8 June 2008
    3Grp BAustria18:00CroatiaVienna - Ernst Happel
    4Grp BGermany20:45PolandKlagenfurt - Wörthersee
    Monday 9 June 2008
    5Grp CRomania18:00FranceZurich - Letzigrund
    6Grp CNetherlands20:45ItalyBerne - Stade de Suisse
    Tuesday 10 June 2008
    7Grp DSpain18:00RussiaInnsbruck - Tivoli Neu
    8Grp DGreece20:45SwedenSalzburg - EM Stadion Wals-Siezenheim
    Wednesday 11 June 2008
    9Grp ACzech Republic18:00PortugalGeneva - Stade de Genève
    10Grp ASwitzerland20:45TurkeyBasel - St. Jakob-Park
    Thursday 12 June 2008
    11Grp BCroatia18:00GermanyKlagenfurt - Wörthersee
    12Grp BAustria20:45PolandVienna - Ernst Happel
    Friday 13 June 2008
    13Grp CItaly18:00RomaniaZurich - Letzigrund
    14Grp CNetherlands20:45FranceBerne - Stade de Suisse
    Saturday 14 June 2008
    15Grp DSweden18:00SpainInnsbruck - Tivoli Neu
    16Grp DGreece20:45RussiaSalzburg - EM Stadion Wals-Siezenheim
    Sunday 15 June 2008
    17Grp ASwitzerland20:45PortugalBasel - St. Jakob-Park
    18Grp ATurkey20:45Czech RepublicGeneva - Stade de Genève
    Monday 16 June 2008
    19Grp BPoland20:45CroatiaKlagenfurt - Wörthersee
    20Grp BAustria20:45GermanyVienna - Ernst Happel
    Tuesday 17 June 2008
    21Grp CNetherlands20:45RomaniaBerne - Stade de Suisse
    22Grp CFrance20:45ItalyZurich - Letzigrund
    Wednesday 18 June 2008
    23Grp DGreece20:45SpainSalzburg - EM Stadion Wals-Siezenheim
    24Grp DRussia20:45SwedenInnsbruck - Tivoli Neu

    Your Tables
    Group A

    TeamsPld+/-Pts
    Switzerland 000
    Czech Republic 000
    Portugal 000
    Turkey 000

    Group B

    TeamsPld+/-Pts
    Austria 000
    Croatia 000
    Germany 000
    Poland 000

    Group C

    TeamsPld+/-Pts
    Netherlands 000
    Italy 000
    Romania 000
    France 000

    Group D

    TeamsPld+/-Pts
    Greece 000
    Sweden 000
    Spain 000
    Russia 000

    All info is from the official site.

    I will be cheering for Sweden (see my avatar) but also Greece (where my family's from).

    I'll be adding more the closer we get to kickoff...
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    Default Re: Awesomest Euro 2008 Thread (no rexnoms allowed)

    Sweden? Greece?

    In all honesty, I love me some Spain, they've got some really nice young players.

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    Merge it is. And to say that almost nobody cares about this, but still there are 2 threads being made at the same time, a week before it begins. That's some pretty crazy ****. The forces of the universe continue to amaze me.

    Greece? Nah, sorry. I am one of the many that hated Greece 4 years ago when they became champions with their ultra-defensive play. I like teams who go for it, attack. That's why I mostly have sympathy for Spain, but they tend to be a let down in big tournaments. When Zidane was still playing, I used to root for France, now I'm not really sure what has become of their team. I'm looking forward to see them play though, same with Spain and Portugal. And it's always fun to laugh with the Dutch when they're losing, so I'll try to catch most of their games too. Hopefully it will be a less frustrating tournament than 4 years ago

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    oh ****! I was just about to make a thread about this too!

    I'll be rooting for the underdogs - Turkey...don't really see them getting past the group stage considering we have to face Portugal and Czech Rep

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    Merge it is. And to say that almost nobody cares about this, but still there are 2 threads being made at the same time, a week before it begins. That's some pretty crazy ****. The forces of the universe continue to amaze me.

    Greece? Nah, sorry. I am one of the many that hated Greece 4 years ago when they became champions with their ultra-defensive play. I like teams who go for it, attack. That's why I mostly have sympathy for Spain, but they tend to be a let down in big tournaments. When Zidane was still playing, I used to root for France, now I'm not really sure what has become of their team. I'm looking forward to see them play though, same with Spain and Portugal. And it's always fun to laugh with the Dutch when they're losing, so I'll try to catch most of their games too. Hopefully it will be a less frustrating tournament than 4 years ago

    Hey, I thought you were Greek? How come you're also rooting for Sweden?
    I'm definitely Greek, but I grew up partly in Sweden so I'm kind of a sports bigamist...it's legit. Basically, I lived and died with that 94 WC Bronze team and have been a die hard fan ever since.

    As for the Greek style of play, oh man...it's a pain. And definitely nerve-wracking. Basically, we knew that if the other team scored, we would probably lose. That's A LOT of pressure. I'm still amazed how we won.

    The thing with Euro Cups is that all groups are hard (unless you're Germany, in which case you always get the easiest group in championships). Hell, in 2004 teams like Italy and Spain didn't even make it out. Turkey's group is, at first glance, easy. However, Portugal has the world's best player (IMO). CR is still kinda dangerous, though definitely old. Switzerland is nothing to shake your fist at, either.
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    NEW YORK (AP) -- The World Cup is where favorites go to win titles. At the European Championship, which begins next weekend, anything goes.
    Such as Greece stunning the 16-team field to take the crown four years ago. Or Denmark getting into the tournament only because another nation was thrown out, then winning it all in 1992.
    The Soviet Union and Spain won their only major titles at Euros. So did the Czechs when, as Czechoslovakia in 1976, they stunned West Germany on penalty kicks, the only final decided by a shootout.
    So while current world champ Italy, Germany, France, Portugal and Spain are considered front-runners to appear in the June 29 final, who's to say that Romania, Turkey or even those spunky Greeks won't walk off with the trophy?
    Not that anyone will be caught off-guard by these outsiders.
    "I'm sure all our opponents have done their homework," Greece midfielder Giorgos Karagounis said. "But ... we do have a strong team."
    Indeed, aside from the World Cup, Euros has the best field of any soccer tournament on the planet. Some would argue that without the frequent second-rate squads that qualify for the World Cup _ hey, the United States was abysmal in two of the last three global championships -- the collection of teams at Euros is superior to any other event.
    "It's going to be the most difficult tournament ever. All the teams are at a similar level. Anyone can beat anyone," said Germany coach Joachim Loew, who assisted Juergen Klinsmann as his nation made the World Cup semifinals two years ago. "As for us, we work well as a unit, our system and our organization are well rehearsed."
    As it must be, because there will be few if any gimmes at Euros. Yes, co-hosts Austria and Switzerland are among the weaker entries, but the Greeks were rated so low in 2004 that they regularly were predicted to go home after the first round.
    One nation that won't be leaving after the opening round is England. The country where soccer was born didn't even qualify.
    That should make security issues less tense. But both hosts are adamant that this will be as peaceful a tournament as the 2006 World Cup was in Germany.
    In fact, Austrian and Swiss officials have leaned on their neighbors for help making Euros safe.
    Germany is sending 850 police officers to support Austrian colleagues. Switzerland's federal council approved funds for a maximum of 5,250 operation days in crowd control: 4,500 by German police in Basel and Zurich, 750 by French officers in Geneva.
    "Close international cooperation is indispensable in coping with an event such as the Euro 2008," Swiss security spokesman Martin Jagged said.
    Games will be played in Vienna, Innsbruck, Salzburg and Klagenfurt in Austria. In Switzerland, the sites are Geneva, Bern, Basel and Zurich. All of them will be televised live in the United States for the first time, by ESPN and ABC.
    The openers pit the Czechs against the Swiss at Basel and the Portuguese playing Turkey at Geneva on June 7. The final will be in Vienna.
    As for who might wind up there, the favorites -- if that really means anything at Euros -- include soccer's biggest achievers, the Germans and the Italians.
    Loew still has the core of the team that brought excitement and an attacking style to the 2006 World Cup, and the pressure of being at home won't plague the Germans.
    "We have been preparing for two years for this tournament," Loew said. "The tension and the concentration are rising within me, but I am really looking forward to it. We are well prepared, it's time for the championship to start."
    Look for Germany to ride the offense provided by veterans Miroslav Klose and Michael Ballack, and rising star Mario Gomez.
    Italy also has a new coach, former Azzurri standout Roberto Donadoni. He's been criticized for being too inexperienced for the job, but he suggests the experiences of winning Italy's fourth world title won't be much help in this event.
    "The fact that Italy is the world champion is important, but we were the world champions two years ago," Donadoni said. "It's a new day now and a different tournament, and I think we're up to the task."
    France coach Raymond Domenech, not exactly a shrinking "violette," is certain his team is ready to emulate the 1984 and 2000 squads that won Euros.
    "For me, it's France who will be champion of Europe," Domenech said.
    Both Italy and France have an extremely difficult chore in the first round, from which the top two teams advance to the knockout stage. They are grouped with the Netherlands and Romania, both talented but unpredictable.
    "I'm a little worried about Romania," Italy's outstanding goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon said. "They've got four or five highly talented players that can hide the ball from you."
    Also hiding among the outsiders will be Turkey, Poland, the host countries and, dare we say it, Greece.
    The Greeks were 80-1 choices back in 2004, but their stingy defense and timely scoring carried them to their only significant international title. They even beat the home team, Portugal, twice _ in the opener and in the final.
    Could it happen again? Sure. At Euros, it always seems possible.
    "We had 31 points after playing 12 (qualifiers). That has to say something," Karagounis said. "We have ambition. We have a good team, and we believe in ourselves."
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    Family is from Switzerland. I'll be rooting for them. I love the Euro Cup.

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    From a pure heritage standpoint, I'd have to go German or Italian, but I'm really feeling Turkey - the fake Europeans.

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    Holland all the way!

    We seem to be rather unlucky the past few International tournaments with regards to the groups we are placed in.

    I mean in the last WC Argentina, Yugoslavia and Sierra Leone. And now Italy, France (the last WC finalists) and Romania (definitely not a walkover either).

    Looking at some other groups makes me feel JEALOUS at how easy some of them seem .

    Anyway, I think we do have the ability to surprise either Italy or France and end up second in the group.

    I can't waite for the tournament to get started.

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    You guys are so screwed

    Damn, I thought I actually wasn't really interested, but the more I see the match-ups, the more I think I'll be hanging out at the bar a lot the upcoming month...(I don't have a tele)
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    Oh we need to merge...badly. In terms of getting screwed over, Holland is always at the top of the list (sorry). Germany always seems to get the easiest group. I will be rooting against them, methinks.

    Look for France to blow that opening game with Romania. They always seem to come a little slow out of the gate. I think Holland could steal a few points from Italy and France. We'll see.

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    I plan on watching all the games - hopefully i can arrange my schedule to do so...going to be tough with work/gym/etc...

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    I plan on watching all the games - hopefully i can arrange my schedule to do so...going to be tough with work/gym/etc...
    I am screwed, unfortunately. Since I work 9-5 in DC during all the games but the weekends, I won't be catching many live. I'll be avoiding this thread/the phone/all human contact until after I've watched my taped games...

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    I always root against Germany. I just don't like their game. Or any of their players.

    Lol...wonder how long we can hold on to 2 threads. Let's make a 3rd one!
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    Euros taking over PD FTW!!!

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    Go Sweden! (though I doubt we will )

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    Go Sweden! (though I doubt we will )
    I think we'll finish second in our group, behind Spain. We lost on penalties four years ago to a tough Dutch team but I thought we had one of the best teams then. This year I think we're again one of the better "second-tier" teams. The injury to Elmander hurts a bit. We might be looking at Zlatan-Henke from the beginning of each match. We'll see.

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    CR is still kinda dangerous, though definitely old. Switzerland is nothing to shake your fist at, either.
    Care to exchange groups, buddie?

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    I think we'll finish second in our group, behind Spain. We lost on penalties four years ago to a tough Dutch team but I thought we had one of the best teams then. This year I think we're again one of the better "second-tier" teams. The injury to Elmander hurts a bit. We might be looking at Zlatan-Henke from the beginning of each match. We'll see.
    I have to say that the Swedish strikers are interesting. Larsen should be getting his pensionfunds soon, but he's an interesting guy. I can't really stand Zlatan, but to see him provoking some other countries players makes for a good laugh as do some of his swandives . Anyway, not bad at all. Usually Sweden has a pretty solid defense where they rest upon. Also usually there midfield was pretty defensive minded, but they do have some nice players in there who can create opportunities forward.

    Now Greece... let's just say that Rasky and I can aggree upon something. The sooner this team is out the better it is for the tournament IMO. Really boring, unimaginative almost cowardly placing virtually your whole squad in defensive positions. IF every competing team were to play like they do then 2/3 of the games after the group phase would be decided by penalties and the remaining games would be 1-0 (... or 0-1 ). It's TOTALLY boring and unattractive to look at aswell. Just my .

    Like I said between those two teams I like Sweden much better.

    Spain is usually a pretty interesting squad in qualifying for tournaments, but somehow they ALWAYS manage to have off-days in their most important matches during tournaments ALWAYS leading to early eliminations. They play attractive and nice though, which is something that has to be respected.

    France. Always dangerous. I don't care that Zidane is not with them anymore, they still have enough talent. I'm hoping their team won't have very good chemistry or won't "feel" all the other players intentions very well (because Holland is in the same group as the French ). There defence and midfield are always of top-quality and they always have atleast one top-striker, though somehow they a lot of times have trouble scoring easily in tournaments for some reason (maybe because of the system they play, I dunno).

    Italy. Always one of the most talented teams in whatever tournament they play and the current world champion. I'm always astounded by the horrible way they usually play and still somehow manage to "steal" victory in a lot of times the last few minutes with getting one or two chances all game long. Considering what they have in talent they should be almost obliged to play more attractive, but they are what they are. Always a top threat and never to be underestimated.

    Germany has been playing very attractive the past 2-3 years and considering there past that is surprising and very, very refreshing. I like what I see from them. Much more attacking and ballcontrolling play. They do again have one of the easiest groups (YET AGAIN!), so they can start slowly and play themselves into form, which is traditionally when they become most dangerous. This is the team I have meeting the Italians in the final and winning it all. We'll see what happens.

    The Netherlands/Holland. Well I hope we will just have a very good tournament and swipe away the last WC memories against Portugal (prob. the worst match I have EVER seen from both sides in more then one way). As traditional the midfield and offense are high-quality and ballcontrol, passing and creativity from midfield will play an important role in how far this team can go. Personally I think it's the best Dutch team since Euro2000, prob. the deepest and best passing and offensive minded midfield in the tournament. Traditionally also the defense is the weakest part of this team. I'm not really convinced about central left back Bouma, but who knows. The positive from the defense is though that they can actually support the attack by moving up either of the flanks.

    For this team to go beyond the group phase it will prob. need to defeat either Italy or France and Rumania for sure. That's a HUGE feat. Facing the finalists of the last world championship in the group fase is something I don't remember happenning before since the tournament expanded a bit about 28 years ago. I do think that Holland does have the ability to defeat France or Italy if it is carefull in finishing the chances if will undoubtedly get, keeps the opponent running after the ball instead of the other way around and the defense remains focused. That's a lot of if's, but not impossible (have to remain positive with a group like this).

    Btw.... ehmmm... Rasky laughing about the Dutch losing . Jealous because we actually get to the tournaments and usually decently far into the knock-out stages?


    Hope Belgium will make it to the next WC btw, seriously .

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    I always root against Germany. I just don't like their game. Or any of their players.

    Lol...wonder how long we can hold on to 2 threads. Let's make a 3rd one!


    You have to admit the way that Germany has been playing the past 2+ years is much better then it used to be . I can't stand watching Italy. I so cheered for the US two years ago when they played Italy. I dunno I guess I don't like some of there dirty, sneaky defenders and some of the things they get away with .
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    Ouch! Italy lost Cannavaro yesterday due to injury. Still undoubtedly one of the best teams without a doubt though.

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    Group C just got even more interesting.

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    True, at the WC they always tried to be really dominant and started attacking from the beginning. But I still don't like them

    I agree that Italy can be really annoying to watch. Last friday against Belgium they played like a bunch of arrogant, err well, football players. And actually I don't think they have that good of a team. Plus they'll miss Cannavaro. My prediction is that France and the Netherlands go through...and I hope so too. There, I said it: I hope that the Netherlands make it to the next round
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    its a shame - living like 3 hours away from Austria and I still will not be able to catch any games in person

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    All tickets are already sold anyway
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