I don't know if I'm stunned or not.
I don't know if I'm stunned or not.
Well, Rick, have fun with that.
You'd think he'd learn the first time that a collection of poor character guys on a team spells disaster. Or hell, just having Ron Artest is enough.
Proof that Rick Carlisle has totally removed his last two years as Pacers coach from his memory.
Yeah, well, where is Josh Howard going to go? Detroit?
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That was a drunken oversight. Fixed.
You insert Ron into that lineup and are left with 4 guys (5 including loudmouth Stackhouse) who think they should be the #1 option. That would just be a ton of fun within itself...
Rick has lost his damn mind. This is a new start for him and he wants to bring back the dude who ruined his chance at a title only 3 years ago?
I will say I am suprised by this in a way.
I will admit though that I can look at Artest and not be filled with anger by thinking of what might of, would, should of, could of been.
The whole brawl, yeah Ron went in to stands and he got suspended the whole year but truth be told I could forgive and forget about that. It's not like it is unheard of to see a player go in to the stands. The thing is that is not the only thing Ron did wrong. It just got the most attention.
But what goes on behind the scenes that I don't know about. That is what scares me about Ron. The guy is just crazy. I would be afraid that one day he wakes up in the middle of the season and says "**** it im done, im retired."
But hey Rick must really believe in him and believe that he can win big with Ron. There is no better person to know besides Rick.
On a scale of one to ten how horrified is Stern over the thought of Ronnie on a team owned by Mark Cuban?
We should be able to bet on the chances of a Cuban-Artest incited brawl.
That would make every other team in the West happy. One more team that would flame out in the playoffs, if they even made it.
When was the last time you ever heard Rick speak in anything other than glowing terms about anyone?
Ron Artest? - Love to have him
Jamaal Tinsley? - Top 5 PG talent when healthy
Hitler? - Man, what a painter.
I think it's almost reflexive at this point. I thought (think) he was (is) a good coach, but he's all politics.
There are really two problems with Carlisle's pronouncements.
He is political, so you can't be sure if he meant what he said.
He is inarticulate, so you can't be sure if he said what he meant.
Carlisle is never going to be remembered as a great coach. But if he says many more things like my signature, he may find a place alongside Yogi Berra as a word bungler.
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And I won't be here to see the day
It all dries up and blows away
I'd hang around just to see
But they never had much use for me
In Levelland. (James McMurtry)
Hands up, who thinks Dallas is just fine as is and will likely win the title next year.
And we're done. Something must change, and I don't recall hearing that Dirk was Mr. Intimidation, or Kidd for that matter. If you are going to fail then why not try something else that only might fail?
I do agree that Rick is Mr. Positive about everyone in the press, but I don't think it's political in a disingenuous manner. He had no problem ripping on Ronnie in the press early in his AS year (IIRC) which resulted in Artest going totally off the next game and naturally hearing a lot of praise from Rick after that.
I think Rick is serious enough about this. He may not be his first choice but I think he's being sincere in his comments. He just likes to leave out the negative parts he might also think about a player.
Thing too is that you will not find too many people who "know" Ron Artest that don't genuionly like Ron. They all say he is a great guy - off the court. This is not a "bad guy", just not a smart &/or stable guy, but not a bad dude at all. I'm sure Rick does like Ron. Most everyone (except R.Miller & most NBA/Indiana fans) do. Now, that doesn't mean these people like "Ron-Ron" (the evil twin personality), but the do like "Ron Artest" (the person). If Ron Artest went to Dallas w/o "Ron-Ron" showing up - thats a huge win for them.
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Ronnie Artest is a shut down defender in the NBA. Dallas would benefit from his services. If he can play stable Flip a coin. Can he win a championship (NO) Rip Hamilton anyone?
Not Surprised. . .I expect it to happen.
R.I.P. Bernic Mac & Isaac Hayes
When Artest goes to Dallas I will eat my big toe.