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    Question Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    I saw this debate on another board, so I thought I'd bring it here to Pacers Digest.

    You're starting a new franchise, you have your choice between the two - whom do you go with?

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    Dwight

    Paul is ridiculously good, but I think you take big over small cuz "you can't teach big."

    It's easier to build around a dominant big-man than around a PG, no matter how good he is.

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    I would normally take the big guy, but there's just something about Paul.

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    Considering that Dwight can block shots, rebounding for you on both ends, is so physically gifted that no one can stop him right now (except maybe for hacking), and still has so much to improve on the offensive end, I don't think it's a contest. Plus, I feel like, although Paul has thusfar been very durable and tough, Dwight probably has a lower chance of sustaining major season or career injury. Be interesting to see how each does in the second round against more experienced clubs.

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    You can't teach size. . . . Dwight

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    Can't teach All-Star level point guard skills either. As Pacers fans, we're painfully aware of the shortage of high-caliber PGs.

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    8 of the last 9 NBA champions have featured either Tim Duncan or Shaquille O'Neal. So because of that, I'd take Howard over Paul.

    However, I'd take LeBron over both of them.
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    Big men always out rank pg's. No question both are valueable but one is harder to find than the other.

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    I'd take Payton over Kemp.
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    Paul is elite at two ends. No-brainer for me.

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    You can't teach desire either and Chris
    Paul has more determination than any player in the league besides Kobe and Duncan.

    But really, I'd take either if they're offering.

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    Dwight is clearly the leagues next dominant big man, and since it's a known fact that big men win championships, I think it's a no-brainer for Howard.

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    Paul. Easy.

    He's got chumps looking like All-Stars. PGs can make PFs better, but the reverse isn't usually true.
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    I take the big man first as a rule. Big men with footwork, athleticism, and agility that DH has is just too rare to pass up.

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    Paul and Howard are both at the top of the game....but I'd give the edge to Dwight.

    Superstar big men win championships. Look at Shaq and Tim Duncan and their jewelry over the last decade. In contrast, how many rings do the great PG's in the league have? Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Baron Davis and Jason Kidd have....hmmm..Zero. That's right.

    I suppose Tony Parker is a good PG, but he's no Nash/Paul/Deron W/ or JKidd. Everyone knows TD is why the Spurs win.

    Maybe Magic Johnson qualifies as a PG, but at 6'9"...it was different...and a different era...and he had Kareem anyway...another big man.

    Perhaps Paul is the exception...but I doubt it. Paul has a number of nice pieces so I suppose he could advance...but history says the PG is not the reason you win it all.

    Unless you have a tremendous freak athlete like Lebron, Kobe or MJ....or an extremely well put together TEAM like Detroit...or a dominant big man along the lines of Shaq or TD, you will not win a championship.

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    Both.

    If I HAD to choose, I'd take Dwight.

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    8 of the last 9 NBA champions have featured either Tim Duncan or Shaquille O'Neal. So because of that, I'd take Howard over Paul.

    However, I'd take LeBron over both of them.
    Very well said. I'd take Lebron over any current player...but I'd have a tough time taking Lebron over a young Shaq.

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    I would normally take the big guy, but there's just something about Paul.
    What he said.

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    LeBron wasn't included because it's pretty much unanimous that he's the #1 young player - if not player, period - in the league.

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    Paul by a nose. In today's game he's slightly more valuable IMO.

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

    Wow!!! So many of you picking Paul. It is a no brainer to build around a big 20-20 guy like Howard especially with the lack of big men in the league.

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    Default Re: Chris Paul vs Dwight Howard

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    Wow!!! So many of you picking Paul. It is a no brainer to build around a big 20-20 guy like Howard especially with the lack of big men in the league.
    Really? NO is doing just fine with their big guys (a lot thanks to Paul giving them easy hoops). I think finding a floor general is a lot harder.

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    Put me on board for CP3. You're talking about a PG that's got the potential to be top 5 all-time.

    Also, Howard's numbers are very good, and he's surely a force, but the times I've seen him, they don't run the offense through him, so he doesn't really command double teams, so he doesn't really get wide open looks for his teammates. I think that's what got Duncan and Shaq their rings, not just gaudy numbers.

    In summary, Paul makes his teammates better, Howard doesn't. Paul by a nose.

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    IMO, Point Guard is far and away the most important position in the game. Plus, I don't believe that you can have a post player/inside guy as your main go-to guy at the end of the game. They rely too much somebody else to get them the ball, plus it's easier to collapse the defense and provide help on that inside guy.

    I'd probably go Paul and Deron Williams before I'd take Howard...and I acknowledge that Howard is a fantastic player.

    Again, for me, it PG above all positions.

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    Yeah...I don't about all this "by a nose" stuff. This is a really easy answer for me: Chris Paul. I doubt that the Magic have more than 40 wins without Hedo Turkoglu this year. I think an argument could be made that he was just as valuable as Dwight Howard for them. As Eindar mentions, the offense rarely runs through Howard. At times, it seems he's the 4th most likely guy to take a shot in crunch time. Is that really the guy you'd start your franchise with when you have Chris Paul as an option?

    Also, using a Bill Simmons measuring tool, how much worse would each team if we replaced the player with a decent player at their position? How much worse would the Magic be if that was Tyson Chandler and not Dwight Howard? 5 wins worse? Maybe 10? What if the Hornets had Kirk Hinrich? Would they even have won 30 games this year? I doubt that the Hornets would have won 40 games with a bona-fide all-star like Tony Parker running the point instead of Chris Paul.

    Further, Tyson Chandler cost the Hornets an old PJ Brown. Getting a decent PG costs more. Getting a decent pure PG costs an arm, a leg, an ear, and two first round picks....just ask the Mavs.
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