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    Default A small trade for big results: Getting a defensive stopper

    This is a small part of a larger thread I am eventually going to put out there sometime after the draft lottery is determined, and the Pacers find out for sure where they will pick.

    The Pacers clearly in my view need a defensive wing player to be a major factor in their rotation. We also should try our best to achieve 2 other goals in any move we make, which are to: acquire extra draft picks, and not take on extra salary (and save salary when possible). This proposed move fits all of these criteria.

    Here is my proposal:

    Pacers trade F Shawne Williams, and the rights to European F/C Erazem Lorbek to Detroit.

    Detroit trades their first round pick in the 2008 draft, C Cheick Samb, and G/F Aaron Afflalo to Indiana.


    Why Detroit makes the trade:

    Williams potentially gives them an eventual successor to Rasheed Wallace. Detroit also has room on their roster to add Lorbek in 2008-2009 to provide added depth. Afflalo is a good player but is blocked by Richard Hamilton and especially Teyshaun Prince.


    Why Indiana makes the trade: While perhaps not quite as good as a prospect as Williams, Afflalo fits a major team need that Williams doesn't, which is to be a potential premier defender. (Afflalo was one of college basketball premier defenders in 2006-2007 for UCLA). Adding Afflalo lets you not have to spend any money signing a defensive free agent (like Quinton Ross) or needing to resign Kareem Rush. Cheick Samb from Senegal is a complete project needed to be included just to balance the salaries. By adding a late first round pick, it either gives Indiana a chance to add another quality player who slips into the 20's, or the Pacers could use it as a trade chip to move up into the begginning of the first round if they choose.

    Williams has had some "issues" in Indiana as well, and while they aren't a huge detriment, it would be viewed as a positive step for some fans to purge the troubled youngster from the roster to get the more solid citizen in Afflalo. AA is also cheaper, and under contract longer than Williams.


    This is a small move that would/could be a prelude to other moves. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: A small trade for big results: Getting a defensive stopper

    As much as I'd like to keep Williams, I'd probably do this trade. Just the fact that we get a defensive pg and another draft pick [bargaining chip] makes it easier to digest.

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    Default Re: A small trade for big results: Getting a defensive stopper

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    This is a small part of a larger thread I am eventually going to put out there sometime after the draft lottery is determined, and the Pacers find out for sure where they will pick.

    The Pacers clearly in my view need a defensive wing player to be a major factor in their rotation. We also should try our best to achieve 2 other goals in any move we make, which are to: acquire extra draft picks, and not take on extra salary (and save salary when possible). This proposed move fits all of these criteria.

    Here is my proposal:

    Pacers trade F Shawne Williams, and the rights to European F/C Erazem Lorbek to Detroit.

    Detroit trades their first round pick in the 2008 draft, C Cheick Samb, and G/F Aaron Afflalo to Indiana.


    Why Detroit makes the trade:

    Williams potentially gives them an eventual successor to Rasheed Wallace. Detroit also has room on their roster to add Lorbek in 2008-2009 to provide added depth. Afflalo is a good player but is blocked by Richard Hamilton and especially Teyshaun Prince.


    Why Indiana makes the trade: While perhaps not quite as good as a prospect as Williams, Afflalo fits a major team need that Williams doesn't, which is to be a potential premier defender. (Afflalo was one of college basketball premier defenders in 2006-2007 for UCLA). Adding Afflalo lets you not have to spend any money signing a defensive free agent (like Quinton Ross) or needing to resign Kareem Rush. Cheick Samb from Senegal is a complete project needed to be included just to balance the salaries. By adding a late first round pick, it either gives Indiana a chance to add another quality player who slips into the 20's, or the Pacers could use it as a trade chip to move up into the begginning of the first round if they choose.

    Williams has had some "issues" in Indiana as well, and while they aren't a huge detriment, it would be viewed as a positive step for some fans to purge the troubled youngster from the roster to get the more solid citizen in Afflalo. AA is also cheaper, and under contract longer than Williams.


    This is a small move that would/could be a prelude to other moves. Thoughts?
    Assuming it's the best deal we had on the table, I would seriously look at it. I agree about the wing defender weakness being a top priority for us. I've seen Afflalo in college but muss less in the pros. Are people convinced he will develop into the same level defender as this level? I still think that dealing one of the redundant trio of Dun, DG, SW eventually has to happen to upgrade the overall makeup of the roster.
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    Default Re: A small trade for big results: Getting a defensive stopper

    Not a bad small move. It's also moves like this that allow you to move up in the draft a few spots by accumulating picks.

    However, I'm a little concerned about giving up Shawne. I know that he doesn't really "fit" but he is undeniably talented and a seemingly natural fit for this offense. I'd rather give him more time and let him man the PF position in the future.

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    Default Re: A small trade for big results: Getting a defensive stopper

    I say we give up Shawne. He isn't playing much, and there is no sense in us keeping players who get no PT.

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