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    8:02 PM February 8, 2008

    O'Brien expects O'Neal to remain a Pacer
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    INDIANAPOLIS -- Pacers coach Jim O'Brien expects Jermaine O'Neal back sometime after the NBA All-Star break -- in an Indiana uniform.

    O'Neal has been sidelined since the middle of last month with a bone bruise in his left knee. The Feb. 21 trade deadline comes just four days after the All-Star game, and O'Neal's name will surely surface in some speculation before then.

    The star forward was mentioned in deals with the Los Angeles Lakers and New Jersey Nets during the summer, but O'Brien doesn't think he needs to worry about talking to O'Neal about the topic in the coming days because he's not playing.

    "If somebody was playing for you, you'd wonder where their mind-set is if there are trade rumors out there," O'Brien said. "The fact is, we don't anticipate having him back until after the All-Star break and by that time I imagine he'll still be a Pacer.

    "So all the rumors, if there are still any out there -- and I haven't heard any frankly -- will be for naught."

    O'Neal hasn't even played 70 games in a season since 2003-04, but O'Brien doesn't think the current injury will limit the former All-Star once he returns.
    "When he comes back, we expect him to be full go. There's nothing that our people have seen that it's a long-term problem," O'Brien said. "I fully expect to have him back at the end of this year and if he's a Pacer for two more years of his contract or longer than that, I fully expect him to play at 100 percent."
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    I wonder if O'B's saying this because of his slip of the tonque, or the Pacers just realize trading JO for someone like Vince Carter really doesn't fix anything. It would be fixing one spot at the expense of another.

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    i think the current rumors make no sense for the pacers trade for vince carter why we are already bad on defense lets make that worse and we all that JO at 100 percent is a big defensive presence on the floor. If a trade happens it has to be for youth or picks or expiring contracts lateral moves dont help us.

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    I'm beginning to dislike Jimmy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrangerRanger View Post
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    I'm beginning to dislike Jimmy.
    Why?

    Part of me wants to agree with you. Then I try to look at things in a big picture way and I can convince myself it's not so much JOb but rather just the losing and the whole situation.

    The one thing that does bother me about JOb is that I'm not thrilled with his systems on offense or defense. Especially frustrating is continuing to beat a dead horse with a compicated D that our guys obviously can't/don't execute.

    Yet, I also understand the agrument that JOb's not responsible for this god-awful collection of talent, or lack there of, with which he's saddled. Going above him to Bird/Walsh and the Simons, you can question the overall vision, including bringing in O'Brien. If it's just let's bring in a guy with an uptempo philosophy on offense so as not to hire RC 2.0, then it's like trying to use a band aid when you need a tourniquet.

    In order to give JO'b and his approach a chance, the management has to actively pursue modifications to make his style more viable. We have precious little evidence that this important piece of the puzzle will ever come to fruition. Finally, though, coming back full circle you have to ask if the coach, given the circumstances, shouldn't adjust his schemes more to the talent, regardless of how limited or mismatched it may be, thus giving the team some modicum of a chance to win.

    Bottom line: we're just screwed no matter how you look at it until TPTB finally accepts the inevitable and starts the process of reworking/rebuilding the team in earnest. No more lateral moves, please. Recognize that previous era is over and cut your losses on those remaining core guys. The sooner the better.

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    man i can't believe how people are so quick to give JO away without seeing if he can comeback healthy! this guy was one of the top shot blockers before he got hurt last season! You just don't give away talent without getting back equal talent! sure it would be hard but do you guys really want to give JO up for Starbury? UHG ...you hate tinsley you'll REALLY hate starbury...
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    man i can't believe how people are so quick to give JO away without seeing if he can comeback healthy! this guy was one of the top shot blockers before he got hurt last season! You just don't give away talent without getting back equal talent! sure it would be hard but do you guys really want to give JO up for Starbury? UHG ...you hate tinsley you'll REALLY hate starbury...
    I think most of us are just tired of waiting. JO's been unhealthy for a ridiculously long time now, as has Tinsley (though I honestly don't believe Jamaal's really injured).

    And then, there are some that just hate JO for whatever reason and want him gone regardless of what we get back.

    Me, I'd take a good trade for JO if one emerges, but I'd rather take my chances with him coming back healthy at a later date than take garbage for him.

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    He's been unhealthy because he's always eager to get on the court to win. He thinks too much with his heart and not his head. I expect this team to be a whole lot better when Jermaine gets back. And If we manage to make the playoffs this year, We'd have a 100% healthy and well rested Jermaine. Which is actually a good thing
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    I'll be happy if he truly is healthy when he comes back (meaning he looks like he did 4 years ago), but it's the timing that sucks. "Gee, great to have you back just in time to keep us out of the lottory!"

    Ah, who the hell am I kidding. While it's possible this is a corner-turning moment for JO's health, it's more likely he's setting himself up for another fall.

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    I agree....shade tinsley really is hurt. You can see when he runs and if you look on the bench he's always rubbing his leg and holding it. I think he's really hurt which is why his minutes have been reduced significantly...
    Lets beat portland tonight and see how it plays out!
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    Let's hope Brandon Roy doesn't play tonight!!! lol. He didn't play last night
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    While it's possible this is a corner-turning moment for JO's health, it's more likely he's setting himself up for another fall.
    He needs to shut it down, but management has made it clear that they don't consider that a viable option.
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    Let's hope Brandon Roy doesn't play tonight!!! lol. He didn't play last night
    Per the Blazers website:

    Roy, who leads Portland in scoring, assists and steals, is also expected to miss Saturday's game in Indiana.
    http://www.nba.com/blazers/news/Trai...7088-1218.html

    I also heard Kamla say he'll be sitting during the Blazer/Piston highlights from last night.
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    I think this JOB article is simply PR to help expedite a trade.
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    no roy tonight? I like our chances! we won in portland lets get it done at home!
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