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    Pacers' O'Neal willing to sit out season to rehab knee

    By Mike Wells
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    Indiana Pacers forward Jermaine O'Neal told The Indianapolis Star on Sunday that he is willing to sit out the rest of the season, if necessary, to take care of his ongoing left knee problem.


    O'Neal said his knee, which he had surgery on last April, has not fully recovered and that he returned to the court too soon.
    "That's really the prime option for me," O'Neal said Sunday afternoon, of sitting out the rest of the season. "We're going to rehab now like it was the summer, with an extensive rehab. If that consists of a month or the rest of the season, I need to take the necessary steps to not come back on something that's not really healthy.

    "That's the thing we have been saying. It's OK, but it really hasn't really been OK."

    Team president Larry Bird could not be reached for comment Sunday.

    O'Neal, who has missed eight games this season, said he knew something had to be done after playing just nine minutes, all the in the first quarter, against the Golden State Warriors last week.

    "I'm not giving the team a shot," he said. "I would rather them give the guys a shot with the group that's going to be there every single day."

    The Pacers issued a statement Saturday saying that O'Neal would miss at least two weeks after an MRI revealed a bone bruise on his knee. Coach Jim O'Brien said before Saturday's game against Sacramento that O'Neal will not get back to the point where he can play and practice on a regular basis this season.

    O'Neal, who will continue to travel with the team, said he plans to meet soon with two specialists -- one in New York and one in Los Angeles.

    "What's more important right now is doing the things necessary to get back healthy and also not have to get my whole damn knee replaced in 10 years," O'Neal said.

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    Oh snap!

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    Thanks for killing any trades, JO!

    Eh, nobody woulda been stupid enough to take him, anyhow.
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    We've got Chris Webber 2.0 on our team.

    I guess it would be best if he sat out the rest of the season. We might get a better draft pick that way. Although I don't think having him sit and just rehab the knee until next season is going to do much. I'm sure it would still just get injured again or he'd pick up some other nagging injury that would dog him for most of the season.

    Sorry, I know that's really pessimistic. I'm just really deep into the Darkside right now.
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    We've got Chris Webber 2.0 on our team.
    No, Chris would pass the ball.

    Sorry, I know that's really pessimistic. I'm just really deep into the Darkside right now.
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    Thanks for killing any trades, JO!

    Eh, nobody woulda been stupid enough to take him, anyhow.
    I knew this would happen. I knew it was just a matter of time before JO found a way to get back at Larry for firing Isiah.

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    I don't see how we can make the playoffs.

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    well we have been saying we are better without him...I guess we are about to find out...damn
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    wait can't JO opt out after this season? Yeah get healthy then opt out and go play for the knicks...UHG...
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    People are being pretty hard on the guy. I can feel for his situation. Hopefully we decide to tank (trade tinsley) and get that draft pick we have been looking for.
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    I may be looking too much into it, but the timing of this is just too coincidental to me. I think the Jermaine for Vince trade talks are real and Jermaine is trying to kill his value.

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    why the hell wouldn't he want to play with kidd and jefferson?
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    why the hell wouldn't he want to play with kidd and jefferson?

    Maybe that's not the trade he was worried about...

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    Honestly this is best for everyone involved.

    J.O. has to look out for his future and his knee. This team is not going anywhere and he needs to just set out.

    Believe me people, every GM in the league already knows the extent of his injury so this is nothing that is going to affect his trade value one way or the other.

    This means that Ike Diogu will now have to crap or get off of the pot. If J.O. is truely out for the season than we MUST see what Ike can do. We can NOT wait for another year.

    My belief is that Ike will not work in this system, but right now they have to find that out for certain.

    Also this means the team can now focus on one style of play and actually work on it and not have to jump styles from game to game.

    I'll touch on Jermaine in the Q&A post.

    But in this thread I will say that this is for the best.


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    I don't see how we can make the playoffs.
    Well, we are, what? 5-3 w/o JO in the line-up? And the 2nd half schedule is somewhat easier than the first....maybe the remaining bigs will step up enough.

    But this is just adding more random effects to this crapshoot season. New coach, JO in / out, Ike in/out/in, Rush and Diener and Graham are useless, Harrison in/out/in/out, running game, JO-is-our-anchor, small ball, Rush and Diener and Graham are great...whee! What's next?
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    Honestly this is best for everyone involved.

    J.O. has to look out for his future and his knee. This team is not going anywhere and he needs to just set out.

    Believe me people, every GM in the league already knows the extent of his injury so this is nothing that is going to affect his trade value one way or the other.

    This means that Ike Diogu will now have to crap or get off of the pot. If J.O. is truely out for the season than we MUST see what Ike can do. We can NOT wait for another year.

    My belief is that Ike will not work in this system, but right now they have to find that out for certain.

    Also this means the team can now focus on one style of play and actually work on it and not have to jump styles from game to game.

    I'll touch on Jermaine in the Q&A post.

    But in this thread I will say that this is for the best.

    Before I start thinking that we'll finally be forced to move on without a player, practice at full strength (with the available players), and try and develop some consistency and get younger players some meaningful development... I'll need to be convinced JO won't decide to come back in 2-3 weeks once he starts feeling better. And of course his starting spot will be waiting on him... and the 'you don't practice, you don't play' rule will be suspended again (or will it be "deactivated"? )

    I agree JO is looking at the downside of his career. If he looked real hard he'd see he's been looking at it for 2-3 years now. It may take him a while to come to terms with it, but if he ever does he might be more valuable with a clear understanding of his limitations than he would be pretending he's the 'other O Neal'.

    Unfortunately, if he realizes he's on the downside of his career he might also realize his best monetary move is to not opt out this summer. My hope was that his ego would tell him to opt out because someone would wave $$$ at him because he's a 'superstar'.... or think the Pacers would pay to keep their superstar.

    Maybe if he lets his legend grow for the rest of the season, and Conrad continually tells us how much better he's looking during rehab and workouts, then we can salvage some type of trade value. ....I can deam, can't I?

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    I still haven't got my damn cookie!

    And seriously screw him for saying this.

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    why the hell did he have to say this today.

    couldnt he of waited a week so we could of traded him for someone decent.

    now we cant get anybody.

    we could of had VC for free practically.(this yr)

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    why the hell did he have to say this today.

    couldnt he of waited a week so we could of traded him for someone decent.

    now we cant get anybody.

    we could of had VC for free practically.(this yr)
    Could he have passed a physical?

    Technically, he probably should've kept quiet since he's made it sound worse than what the Pacers have made it sound. But, the question still remains: Could he have passed a physical or would that have killed a trade anyway?

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    Technically, he probably should've kept quiet since he's made it sound worse than what the Pacers have made it sound. But, the question still remains: Could he have passed a physical or would that have killed a trade anyway?
    Well either way now, the trade is dead now isnt it?

    Unless teams want JO for next season, but Nets arent a team lookin for next season.

    I read teams want Brand for next season, so i guess some teams are looking. But either way JO has killed us.

    Arghh this has made me angry.

    I wanna know what direction Bird will go to now?

    Either trade JO for crap, or keep JO until he retires, and just rest him this season.

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    JO coming back too early from a previous injury... hmmm where have I heard that one before?

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    Good. This allows JO to fully heal, and for those who have been saying we're better w/o him to prove whether we actually are or not.

    It also allows us to see what we've finally got on this team, especially in Ike Diogu.

    Finally, if worse comes to worse and we tank, we can at least get a high draft pick out of it.

    Like Peck said, this is the best thing right now for all parties involved.

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    Btw, didn't JO say before the season that he was finally healthy and felt better than he had in years?

    Apparently, the lies and deception don't end in the front office. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 3409786782876438756 times...

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    Btw, didn't JO say before the season that he was finally healthy and felt better than he had in years?
    I recall this as well. Did I miss that "old JO" that would be revived this season?

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    oh man... we really need someone down there

    when i say we play better without JO back then was just me thinking in the back of my mind taht big 7 will be back some games after and anchor defense.

    but now, im worrid about our team and play-off chances, small ball works but not all the time, we need a legit pf/c now

    its urgent, Ike aint gonna cut it, david eh.

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