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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,5673808.story

    Jermaine O'Neal hasn't fully healed from off-season knee surgery, and he could sit out awhile to recover.

    The Pacers center left during the first quarter of Wednesday's win over Golden State with pain in his left knee and did not return. He was to have an MRI.

    "It's a difficult decision," he said. "You don't want to take a week and a half, two weeks off and be in the same position. I want to get a better diagnosis of why the knee is swelling and we'll go from there.

    Pacers' O'Neal might rest aching knee

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    INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - The Indiana Pacers' Jermaine O'Neal may be out of the lineup a while because of his aching left knee.


    O'Neal had offseason knee surgery, but it still hasn't fully healed. He left during the first quarter of last night's win over Golden State because of the pain and did not return. He says he wants to get a better diagnosis of why the knee is swelling before he makes a decision whether to take some more time off.


    O'Neal had surgery in April 2007 after he tore cartilage in the knee. He says he's surprised the healing process has been so slow.
    He already has has missed 89 games the past 3 1/2 seasons due to injuries, illnesses and suspensions. He has missed seven games this season, many because the knee has been unpredictable.
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    good to hear it from Chicago first....

    I do wonder though - does this mean that Ike might get some playing time again?

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    Sit him until after the all star break.

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    Good-bye to any chance that he will be traded by the deadline...if that is what anybody was hoping for.
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    Sit him until after the all star break.

    Healthy JO - the pacers are better with him

    Unhealthy JO, Pacers are better without him
    Yes.

    Although I can't help but feel that this is "deja vu all over".
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    According to Chick McGee JO will be fully healthy on the 12th of Never......
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    Good-bye to any chance that he will be traded by the deadline...if that is what anybody was hoping for.
    I never thought that was a real possibility. Same with Tinsley. Better chance that Ike and Daniels might be traded. Although depending on what Tinsley does from this point, the Pacers might just look to unload him using Ike and Marquis as bait - we'll throw in David as well

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    You wonder if his knee was stressed out cause of Sundays game. Man played like it was a playoff game
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    Sit him until after the all star break.

    Healthy JO - the pacers are better with him

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    That's true and that says it all!

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    Sounds about right.
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    He says he wants to get a better diagnosis of why the knee is swelling before he makes a decision whether to take some more time off.
    I read a month or so ago that other players told JO that it would be mid season before he was healthy again, and it was just something he would have to play though. He's been doing that, but now it's mid season, so he wants another opinion. If he gets reassured, he could play the next game.

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    I read a month or so ago that other players told JO that it would be mid season before he was healthy again, and it was just something he would have to play though. He's been doing that, but now it's mid season, so he wants another opinion. If he gets reassured, he could play the next game.

    Really? That's interesting, I don't remember seeing that.
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    According to Chick McGee JO will be fully healthy on the 12th of Never......
    I believe the Pacers organization is willing to wait.

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    Really? That's interesting, I don't remember seeing that.
    Hard telling where I read that since I read so many sites. I think it was the Star, or Pacers.com though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Galen View Post
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    I read a month or so ago that other players told JO that it would be mid season before he was healthy again, and it was just something he would have to play though. He's been doing that, but now it's mid season, so he wants another opinion. If he gets reassured, he could play the next game.

    I remember seeing that as well....sure hope he can get is strightened out, when he's healthy is one of the best.

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    Sit him until after the all star break.

    Healthy JO - the pacers are better with him

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    Unfortunately agreed. Seems like his TOs have even gone up and I wonder if some of that was the knee distracting him.

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    Jonathon Bender Part 2.

    Or Scott Haskin Part 3 for you diehards out there.

    Or Clark Kellogg Part 4.

    Chronic knee injuries will end his career. I said it before and I'll say it again, he will (is) be a shell of his former self in 1-2 years. We missed out on our chances to get rid of him last summer. And the Pacers are paying him $20M a year for the next 2 years - yeah rah.

    Oh well, he makes a pretty good cheer leader.

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    Shocking, just shocking. How long did it take Bender to heal?
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    Shocking, just shocking. How long did it take Bender to heal?
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    You know, if the Star was a bit less attack oriented they might get informaion like this.

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    This is a little odd that Pacers.com did not report this.

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    Hard telling where I read that since I read so many sites.
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    JO's body just isn't made to withstand the rigors of the NBA. Sad but true. And yet I remember a somewhat lengthy and contencious discussion two years ago on pacers digest about whether JO was injury prone

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    JO's body just isn't made to withstand the rigors of the NBA. Sad but true. And yet I remember a somewhat lengthy and contencious discussion two years ago on pacers digest about whether JO was injury prone
    There was a stretch there where he played 81, 72, 77 and 78 games. Then he just kind of fell off.

    Baron Davis barely missed any games his first view years of his career. Then he got injured and beat up. Right now, he's in better shape and has held up about as well as you can expect out of a guy with his prior injury history.

    Thing is, Baron is a PG so he can make adjustments in his game to avoid the physical grind/banging that takes a toll on the body. Jermaine is a big guy and he's pretty much required to play inside for at least 50% of the time (big guys have to do that defensively everytime down the floor).

    It's a tough league. 82 games a year plus pre-season and playoffs. Big guys just pounding eachother and running up and down a hardwood floor. It takes a toll. Most amazing thing about Michael Jordan was his ability as a relatively small guy (in the grand scheme of things compared to Magic, Bird, Wilt, etc..) to get fouled and get to the line, yet still physically hold up after all that pounding. Especially amazing since they didn't have the handchecking/perimeter defense restrictions back then that they do now.
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    JONeal's trade value just continues to plummet.

    I really hope that JONeal doesn't return until the outstanding Pacer medical / coaching staff deems him fit to return.

    If he returns too early and continues to play with a noticeable injury.....his trade value would drop even more. I could totally see him remain a Pacer until the 2008/2009 trade deadline cuz TPTB won't trade him during the offseason while his trade value is hovering at the lowest point in his career.
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