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    for the Golden State game.

    Let the apologizing for Jamaal begin.

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...TS04/801170504

    The Indiana Pacers suspended Jamaal Tinsley for Wednesday night's game against Golden State following an incident during a film session one day earlier, The Star has learned.


    What exactly happened during the session is unknown. However, coach Jim O'Brien said prior to Wednesday's game that Tinsley would sit out because of an injured knee. O'Brien told The Star the same thing after the game.
    The Tinsley situation overshadowed a big comeback win by the Pacers, 125-117 over the Warriors.
    Former Pacer and current Golden State forward Stephen Jackson, along with several people with knowledge of the situation, confirmed that Tinsley was suspended. The length of Tinsley's suspension is uncertain.
    Tinsley, who has dealt with an assortment of injuries the past few weeks, has routinely attended home and road games while injured this season, but he was not at Conseco Fieldhouse on Wednesday.
    "It's an unfortunate situation he got suspended like that," Jackson said after the game. "He'll bounce back. Me and Jamaal have been through a lot."
    Former coach Rick Carlisle suspended Tinsley for one game last March for excessive tardiness to practice.
    Tinsley is facing charges stemming from a nightclub incident and was shot at outside of the Conrad Hotel Downtown last month.


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    This should become an interesting topic to see where everyone stands .
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    This should become an interesting topic to see where everyone stands .
    I'm sure many will call for him to be traded, even though there are no teams
    who want him or his salary. Same old story.

    Would be surprised if the truth about this "incident" at the film session ever
    comes out.

    Was nice to get the win over GS without him in the lineup.

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    I'm absolutely shocked by this. No, not Tinsley's suspsension- The Star reporting it!

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    I'm absolutely shocked by this. No, not Tinsley's suspsension- The Star reporting it!

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    I'm upset with Jamaal, obviously, but I'm really, really tired of the double-talk coming out of the front office. How do they expect the players to play with character and integrity when they're going to sit there and lie to the faces of all of their customers? I understand they were probably trying to protect his trade value, but after being in the brawl and three late night incidents, getting suspended for one game for something he did in a film session is barely a blip on the radar.

    Start being honest with your fans, and maybe your fans will start trusting you when you tell them you're doing your best to make them proud of their team.

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    Maybe Rick wasn't the problem, hmmm.

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    It doesn't surprise me that the Pacers tried to keep it in house. And it's not just the Pacers that do such things, all teams do. Families do it too.

    I imagine Tinsley was being criticized for his play during the film session and got upset by it and did something stupid like throwing something or jawing with the coaches and got himself suspended.

    It was dumb of O'B to lie about it though. There's people like Mike Well's just itching to jump on stories like that.

    Notice that Well's is the Pacer's beat writer and he wrote a short burb about Tinsley being suspended and nothing about the game itself.

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    As I said when I walked into Conseco, it was obvious that he was suspended.

    I didn't need Wells to tell me, and it didn't matter what OB said.

    And yes I think the suspension INVOLVING YOUR MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER did impact and cause the Pacers horrible first quarter.
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    Well, sounds like the Mel Mel that we all know (not so sure about love)...

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    Is this the same Tins that left the practice floor to huge Bird and thanking him for JOB?

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    Is this the same Tins that left the practice floor to huge Bird and thanking him for JOB?
    Yes. Sure JT likes Jim until he tells him to play the right way, and then he throws a fit

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    Wonder if Jamaal will come out and say something about how he respects JOB for treating him like a man this time.
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    it didn't matter what OB said.
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    All right, I have to ask. Is Unclebuck quitting on Jim O'Brien?.......
    You know what I meant. No, I like OB a lot.

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    I'm upset with Jamaal, obviously, but I'm really, really tired of the double-talk coming out of the front office. How do they expect the players to play with character and integrity when they're going to sit there and lie to the faces of all of their customers? I understand they were probably trying to protect his trade value, but after being in the brawl and three late night incidents, getting suspended for one game for something he did in a film session is barely a blip on the radar.

    Start being honest with your fans, and maybe your fans will start trusting you when you tell them you're doing your best to make them proud of their team.
    Well said.

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    I make no value judgments here about fault or seriousness or personal liberties or on-versus-off-the-court or anything.

    But this is the 4th incident this year that makes the Pacers look bad.

    1. Shawne Williams charged with driving violations.
    2. Jamaal Tinsley involved in late-night shooting.
    3. David Harrison suspended for drugs.
    4. Jamaal Tinsley suspended for "incident."


    The Pacers have not yet even begun to turn the corner in their struggle to become a team that the Indy community can like.

    I think that is pretty sad.


    Oh, and that was a great win last night.
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    I make no value judgments here about fault or seriousness or personal liberties or on-versus-off-the-court or anything.

    But this is the 4th incident this year that makes the Pacers look bad.

    1. Shawne Williams charged with driving violations.
    2. Jamaal Tinsley involved in late-night shooting.
    3. David Harrison suspended for drugs.
    4. Jamaal Tinsley suspended for "incident."


    The Pacers have not yet even begun to turn the corner in their struggle to become a team that the Indy community can like.

    I think that is pretty sad.


    Oh, and that was a great win last night.

    I really liked the team that played in the second half of the Golden State game last night. I realize that team isn't going to win many games (but then again the team with Harrison, JO and JT wasn't doing that well either)

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    It's the final straw for me on JT. I was on his side through the shooting incident - though I felt he could have thought a little more about the team and its PR before making his decision to go out that late - but this? You have a coach who hands you the keys to the team and basically lets you play the way you want, then you do something in reference to a working session that gets you suspended? That's boneheaded.

    I know that the team on the floor in the 4th quarter can't possibly deliver the victories we all want, but I'd rather have JT (and JO) sent away in exchange for a legitimate backup-quality PG and PF and watch that team leave it all on the court every night, win or lose. Let the chips fall where they may.

    I'm not saying it is possible given injury, character, and salary issues, but I'm ready if it does.
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    I really liked the team that played in the second half of the Golden State game last night.
    Absolutely, UncleBuck. I sort of felt by halftime that a win was possible and loved the way they dug it out.

    No, I was talking about the hearts-and-minds aspect. The non-fans and casual fans and former fans will hear about the two events of the past week and it will cause them to shove any positive thoughts about going to a game or reviving their interest farther away again . . . probably for the rest of this season.

    The process of renewing the community affection for the Pacers has not yet begun.
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    It's the final straw for me on JT. I was on his side through the shooting incident - though I felt he could have thought a little more about the team and its PR before making his decision to go out that late - but this? You have a coach who hands you the keys to the team and basically lets you play the way you want, then you do something in reference to a working session that gets you suspended? That's boneheaded.

    I know that the team on the floor in the 4th quarter can't possibly deliver the victories we all want, but I'd rather have JT (and JO) sent away in exchange for a legitimate backup-quality PG and PF and watch that team leave it all on the court every night, win or lose. Let the chips fall where they may.

    I'm not saying it is possible given injury, character, and salary issues, but I'm ready if it does.
    I think most of us agree with you, I know I do 100%. If they can bring in a decent point guard to help Owens, Diener and Daniels a little, and then maybe in the draft get a real starting point guard, and also get another big guy who can fit into OB's system both offensively and defensively then I would be happy. We won't make the playoffs, but now is the time to bit the bullet, because the fans aren't coming back anytime soon.

    The pacers defensive system is extremely difficult to play especially for the big guys, last night, Granger & Williams were lost, it wasn't until Jeff came in and they moved Dunleavy to the power forward position defensively in the 4th quarter, did the defense improve.

    In the third quarter last night there were two or three plays in a row where jeff's man got layups, well it wasn't Jeff's fault - he was flooding the strong side as the coaches wanted, but Granger and williams were not filling in to the lane properly. Finally jeff had a very animated discussion with the coaching staff - saying hey we need to change something here.

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    I really liked the team that played in the second half of the Golden State game last night. I realize that team isn't going to win many games (but then again the team with Harrison, JO and JT wasn't doing that well either)

    Me too, I have EVERY time that Dunleavy and Granger are your focal point, cuz when they are your focal point its not at the detriment to the other guys on the floor. I'd rather watch them win 36 than the other group win, well, 36.

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    I've had enough of JT to.

    but everyone is having a go at him and saying to ship him off when no one knows 100% why he was suspended.

    So just wait until we know.

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    Well, Tinsley did something bad. Got suspended.

    It will be interesting to see how he reacts. If he comes back contrite and working hard or continues his sinis-poutin-itis.

    He said he respected JOB's approach, nows when we find out if he really does.
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    Well, before i'm ready to shoot Tinsley I would need to know more about what happened....I don't believe Mike Wells and feel that he amplifies things to get attention. The only person quoted is jackson....he is well known to shoot his mouth off....Sounds to me like the Pacers handled it in the right way.

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    I'd have to know why he's suspended before I passed judgment on him. If it's tardiness I don't see that as an issue to blow out of proportion. However, I doubt if his trade value gets any higher then it is right now.

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