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    Default Report: Dungy to step down, Caldwell to take over

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    Citing a league source, Profootballtalk.com reports Colts coach Tony Dungy will step down and be replaced by assistant head coach Jim Caldwell.
    Dungy isn't expected to make his decision official before next Monday, but most close to the situation have expected him to retire. Caldwell is highly regarded in the Colts' locker room, especially by Peyton Manning.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...111573&id=1542

    Edit: As soon as I post this, I find this on ESPN. Looks like Dungy is denying the profootballtalk.com report.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3199685

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    Default Re: Report: Dungy to step down, Caldwell to take over

    1.) Dungy's mustache on his ESPN.com picture is kinda porn star-esque, just thought I would throw that out there.

    2.) "Believe it or not, I'm going to go through the process just like I said I would," Dungy told Mortensen. "[Owner] Jim Irsay and I, along with [team president] Bill Polian, have have been talking about this for the last couple of days in Indianapolis. Jim wants me to open the new stadium. I'm not opposed to it, my wife it not opposed to it. I'm going to go through this process to make sure that I should do it.

    Sounds to me like he is leaning toward coming back right now.

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    He's going to retire. The man is burnt out.

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    I don't think he is burned out. I think he is considering stepping down because his leaning is towards reconnecting with the city he has been closest with, and that is Tampa. His family, especially his wife, likes a warm weather climate, and they have strong ties to Tampa anyway.

    He has said publicly and privately that his most important job is as a husband and father. If he feels like he isn't giving as much as he needs to his family, they will come first, as they should.

    He stated many times in his book that he feels as though he hasn't spent as much family time as his parents did, and even though he feels he is a good husband and father, the holidays remind him of what he misses out on by having the job he has.

    There is no doubt in my mind that he will make the decision that is best for his family. If that decision is to leave football, I commend him for it and wish him the best, while thanking him for leading the Colts to where they are now.

    I feel much closer to understanding the man since I read his book, and I will not be sorry in the least if he decided to retire. Any other coach, and I would be wondering what the hidden agenda is. I would be wondering if he wanted to move back to Florida and take the Dolphins head coaching job. Not Tony Dungy. If he says that he is retiring, I believe him.

    If he steps down and moves to Florida to be closer to his family AND takes the Miami job, I will STILL respect the man and wish him the best. I'm a Tony Dungy fan and believe he will be honest and forthcoming with whatever reasons he gives for staying or going.



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    Id love to see him coach at least one year in the new stadium. then retire if that's what he feels is best ....If he retires now though...I have nothing but good things to say about him. He has been one hell of an awesome coach on and off the field.
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    He's going to retire. The man is burnt out.
    I don't think he's burnt out, I think he's done exactly what he set out to do and isn't all the motivated anymore because of it.

    He said in his book he always said that he would retire after he won the superbowl. When you accomplish your biggest goal, you have to find another goal to strive for, and I'm not sure he has another besides to be the best family man he can be.

    If he leaves he will be sorely missed, but I wish him the best always. He's a very good person to look up too, especially how sports teams are ran today. He'll be a lock HOF'er just because he's the first black coach to ever win the SB, but he deserves it for a lot more reasons than that. I can't think of any negatives about the man. He's been through more than any coach in the league with the tragic family events and he came out a stronger man. He is a true role model.

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    I'll never forget what Dungy did for Indy. He was such a great ambassador to the city. After the Colts won it, he went all around to late night shows, signed books, etc. He really was a great ambassador for the city of Indianapolis. I'll always be grateful to him for that.

    But I think it has become obvious that his heart isn't 100% here anymore. I don't want a coach who isn't all the way here. Say what you want about BB, but the guy is totally consumed with football, which is what they pay him for. And I think TD has always been like that to....but it doesnt sound like he is anymore.

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    It would not surprise me at all to see Dungy retire this year, or the next, and move back to Tampa. I don't think he is done coaching though for good though even if he does retire this year. I bet you he will probably come out of retirement to coach TB/Miami after 4-5 years if there is ever a coaching vacancy down there..which there is bound to be. Either way, the man is a winner and a class act. A lot of coaches can't put those 2 hand in hand, but Dungy can.

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    But I think it has become obvious that his heart isn't 100% here anymore.

    How?

    I haven't been paying attention since the season ended. Has he said anything?
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    Tony did a lot of great things for the Colts. More than just on the football field. He made a believer out of me for sure.

    While I want him to stay I really don't want to lose Jim Caldwell either.

    I worry that Caldwell gets a coaching job elsewhere and Dungy stays for just one more year and then retires and then who is the coach? I don't think Tony would let that happen though. I hope not at least.

    Maybe Tony is burnt out on football. IDK. I think he defiantly can still coach though. The Colts weren't peaking at the right time this year and that's why we lost to San Diego. Blame that on a number of things though. Tony can still coach.

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    If Coach Dungy does retire now he has been a great ambassador for professional sports and good sportsmanship in general. If it does happen and Jim Caldwell takes over, that would be fine because Jim is very similar to Dungy and is well respected by the players.

    No matter what coach Dungy does he will be remembered in Indianapolis for more than just coaching. He has done so much for the community and should have his name retired like players get their number retired with a banner in the new stadium. I hope he stays another year, but that is being a little selfish.

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    How?

    I haven't been paying attention since the season ended. Has he said anything?
    It's just my opinion. I hope I am wrong. But it seems to me that he really wants to spend time with his family based on what he has said. If his family is living in Tampa, how could his heart be fully here?

    I know that Irsay has talked about lending him the plane whenever he wants. I don't want a Roger Clemens situation. It's no offense to Dungy, I just would just prefer a coach who didn't have half of his heart in Florida (but I perfectly well understand it).

    I hope I'm wrong. Maybe the new stadium can help lure him back. After all, it is a house that he helped build. I would have trouble knowing that I contributed greatly to something so grand being built yet not actually be able to experience it.

    Dungy has done so much for the community. He represented Indiana so well last year.

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    It would not surprise me at all to see Dungy retire this year, or the next, and move back to Tampa. I don't think he is done coaching though for good though even if he does retire this year. I bet you he will probably come out of retirement to coach TB/Miami after 4-5 years if there is ever a coaching vacancy down there..which there is bound to be. Either way, the man is a winner and a class act. A lot of coaches can't put those 2 hand in hand, but Dungy can.
    I agree with this. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if after a few years when his kids get older if he took a HC job away from Florida.

    I'm mixed on Dungy leaving myself. No doubt he's a very good coach in a lot of ways but I also think he's not as good at game coaching as at other aspects. He's a better practice coach - better at the teaching/instilling pride/promoting professionalism parts of coaching than managing a game. I don't think he's horrible at game management but there have been quite a few games lost that at least got an assist from questionable coaching - the SD game is just the latest example.

    OTOH, there's a LOT to be said for having a quality team led by such a class act. The man really has come through for Indy in that way - and you even got a SB win because NE got so far ahead last year that he had to abandon every game plan except the one you're strongest at.
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    I like Dungy but I'm more inclined to agree with DK.

    I don't think Dungy is a very good playoff coach. I'm glad his way worked and got a SB for himself and Indy but I don't think that is what is going to be the norm and I think history shows that.

    For all the Colts have done in the regular season, their playoff record isn't very impressive. You'd like to hope that last year showed Tony's system was coming together and everyone molding it into shape but then what did this year bring? Another early exit and questionable preparation... even a home loss.

    Considering where the Colts are in the championship window, I think now would be an excellent time for Dungy to retire and the team to go a different direction at the top. Dungy goes out with a recent SB and a solid regular season. The recent SB win provided a buffer to criticisms about this seasons early exit... BUT IMHO early exits will be more the norm than SB contention under Dungy. As that championship window creeps ever closer to closing the whispers will start up again and Dungy won't get the chance to leave under such good terms and fond memories.

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    Thank You for the experience Dungy.

    Personally, and I've expressed it before, It doesn't bother me Dungy stepped. I don't want Caldwell, prefer him to stay as an assistant. I remember him coaching back in NC and he was awful. It's like a Cam Cameron situation, guy makes a great assistant but head isn't really his thing. With all of the available coaches, is it really necessary to grant Caldwell?

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    With all of the available coaches, is it really necessary to grant Caldwell?
    Yes.

    This is a veteran team and it's been great that a lot of the coaching staff has been there for a while. Dungy is very well liked and respected so if he leaves you don't want to change things and you want to have someone you know that players will like and Caldwell is it. He is the safe choice for right now.

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    Thank You for the experience Dungy.

    Personally, and I've expressed it before, It doesn't bother me Dungy stepped. I don't want Caldwell, prefer him to stay as an assistant. I remember him coaching back in NC and he was awful. It's like a Cam Cameron situation, guy makes a great assistant but head isn't really his thing. With all of the available coaches, is it really necessary to grant Caldwell?
    Well, whoever steps in behind Dungy will have a great roster to work with. Doesn't even matter who comes in after Dungy..they will succeed for a few years off of the roster talent alone. Don't believe me? Take a look at Norv Turner. SD will crash and burn under him in the next couple of years..just wait and watch. Talent alone is keeping that team as a playoff contender right now.

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    I pretty much know nothing about Jim Caldwell other than he's the asst head coach/QBs coach, and he had a less than successful head coaching gig at Wake Forest.

    Anyone able to help me out? Other previous jobs, play calling style, anything like that?

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    I pretty much know nothing about Jim Caldwell other than he's the asst head coach/QBs coach, and he had a less than successful head coaching gig at Wake Forest.

    Anyone able to help me out? Other previous jobs, play calling style, anything like that?
    Reportedly, Peyton likes him. Is there anything else that would matter?

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    Well, whoever steps in behind Dungy will have a great roster to work with. Doesn't even matter who comes in after Dungy..they will succeed for a few years off of the roster talent alone. Don't believe me? Take a look at Norv Turner. SD will crash and burn under him in the next couple of years..just wait and watch. Talent alone is keeping that team as a playoff contender right now.
    I know talent alone is going to carry Caldwell to the playoffs but getting to the superbowl (which this team is a superbowl team) is what I want. SD is good and young, they will carry Turner for a long time. They had major lockerroom problems when they lost their first two games. LT and Rivers aren't these "classy" guys ESPN cracks them up to be. Even if you rewatch the Colts vs. Chargers game you can clearly see LT talking to Rivers asking why Norv isn't putting him and jumping around like a baby. They have character issues on that team, anyway back to the Colts.

    You have to be at least decent as a coach though, even with talent. I've never thought Dungy was the best coach in the world. He was blessed with one of the best QB's in history and a very good roster. Everyone wants to go with the "safe" choice but we need to beat New England, coaches are the most important part of the team behind QB and when you have Jim Mora, Marty, Cowher sitting there, those are some big time names to fill your vacancy. We don't have time to play "safe" Peyton is 32 and look at historically what happens to teams after a big time QB leaves. Miami, 49ers, Dallas etc... This is the glory times of our franchise and we need to stock our team the best we can from A to Z.

    I have hope because rumor has it, Jim Mora interviewed with the colts yesterday.

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    Jim Mora or Jim Mora Jr. ????????????/

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    I know talent alone is going to carry Caldwell to the playoffs but getting to the superbowl (which this team is a superbowl team) is what I want. SD is good and young, they will carry Turner for a long time. They had major lockerroom problems when they lost their first two games. LT and Rivers aren't these "classy" guys ESPN cracks them up to be. Even if you rewatch the Colts vs. Chargers game you can clearly see LT talking to Rivers asking why Norv isn't putting him and jumping around like a baby. They have character issues on that team, anyway back to the Colts.

    You have to be at least decent as a coach though, even with talent. I've never thought Dungy was the best coach in the world. He was blessed with one of the best QB's in history and a very good roster. Everyone wants to go with the "safe" choice but we need to beat New England, coaches are the most important part of the team behind QB and when you have Jim Mora, Marty, Cowher sitting there, those are some big time names to fill your vacancy. We don't have time to play "safe" Peyton is 32 and look at historically what happens to teams after a big time QB leaves. Miami, 49ers, Dallas etc... This is the glory times of our franchise and we need to stock our team the best we can from A to Z.

    I have hope because rumor has it, Jim Mora interviewed with the colts yesterday.
    Jima Mora Jr. is a pretty good coach. He did a lot with what was given to him in his Atlanta days. I think he'd be a pretty good choice for Indy's next HC assuming Dungy retires..but I still think it will be Caldwell taking over simply because he will keep the current system in place. I do agree with you about the Colts needing a great HC if they want to win the SB. I was just saying that whoever coaches the Colts will be off the hotseat for a few years because the Colts should easily make the playoffs each year just because they have Peyton, Wayne, and Addai.

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    Someone might convince me otherwise, but based on what I know, I'd like to see Jim Mora Jr coaching the Colts.

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    If he makes his decision this weekend its not looking too good. Current temperatures: Tampa 71 degrees. Indy, a balmy 8.

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    Mora Jr tells the Redskins no thanks

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