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    INDIANA PACERS
    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    Mike Dunleavy, SG419-163-72-22463204123
    Danny Granger, SF224-121-45-61231002514
    Jermaine O'Neal, C352-80-08-102575125312
    Jamaal Tinsley, PG191-20-00-0022230122
    Kareem Rush, SG364-131-51-11125302510
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    Jeff Foster, C21-10-01-2000000003
    Troy Murphy, PF132-30-02-2145020126
    Travis Diener, PG296-105-72-20333100219
    Marquis Daniels, SG246-90-10-02352201212
    Shawne Williams, SF193-61-43-41341001310
    TOTALS
    FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

    38-8011-2824-29102737221421725111

    47.5%39.3%82.8%Team TO (pts off): 17 (19)
    SACRAMENTO KINGS
    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    Mikki Moore, PF271-40-02-2167020234
    Francisco Garcia, SF459-183-61-139123202422
    Brad Miller, C385-150-14-4411155016414
    John Salmons, SG424-101-26-60114014315
    Beno Udrih, PG346-82-20-00223104214
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    Kevin Martin, SG297-91-110-100221203525
    Dahntay Jones, SG113-40-00-1011000016
    Quincy Douby, PG142-60-21-1000100215
    TOTALS
    FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

    37-747-1424-258324017722323105

    50.0%50.0%96.0%Team TO (pts off): 23 (25)

    Flagrant Fouls: None
    Technical Fouls: 2 SACRAMENTO ( F Garcia 1 ) INDIANA ( J O'Neal 1 )
    Officials: Joe Crawford , Olandis Poole , Luis Grillo


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    Default Re: Pacers/Kings Post Game 38: Pacers snap losing streak

    Our franchise player 2-8.

    Diener won us this game.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Kings Post Game 38: Pacers snap losing streak

    Sweet post game thread, the stats are nice. Diener>>>Tinsley

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    I really think we need to work out this Jermaine situation. I don't think the guy should play until he's capable of practicing. And if he has been practicing regularly, which I'm led to believe has not been the case thus far, then Jim O'Brien has to work harder on getting the team to gel with him. I'd prefer to give him an extended break sometime when our schedule is light, and especially around All-Star weekend, just so he can get back his lift and maybe some of his confidence.

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    I saw nothing from Jeff's time on the floor that would explain why he didn't come back in the game. I know the Kings wouldn't have double-teamed him like they did JO, but I'm not sure that explains it.
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    Rush and Granger were not shooting particularly well today, and we still managed to win - that's a good sign. However, we need to be stronger on the boards - there were a couple times when the ball bounced before a Sacto player got to it, and that really shouldn't happen in an NBA game.

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    I saw nothing from Jeff's time on the floor that would explain why he didn't come back in the game. I know the Kings wouldn't have double-teamed him like they did JO, but I'm not sure that explains it.
    I think it's because they had no real low-post threat to worry about - might as well put Shawne out there instead. I liked how Dunleavy was guarding Mikki Moore tonight - that worked out surprisingly well.

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    I think it's because they had no real low-post threat to worry about - might as well put Shawne out there instead. I liked how Dunleavy was guarding Mikki Moore tonight - that worked out surprisingly well.
    Well, I was thinking in terms of Jeff instead of JO...it looked like O'B was serious about small ball....we played one true big only, most of the night.
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    I dunno - I think it's hard to bench 19 million dollars, for better or worse.

    This win is meaningless unless we can gain some momentum for the GS game and then heading back home.

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    If you guys don't think JO played really well in the 4th Quarter than I'm guessing your prejudice is so far beyond reason that it's pointless for me to even try to post something that would make you realize how critical his play in the final period was to our victory tonight.

    (and, yes, I'm well aware of his shooting percentage. Missing shots doesn't equal playing bad.)
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    Oh great, we squeaked out a win against a depleted Kings squad...I'm jumping for joy....really, this doesn't do a thing torwards getting us into rebuild mode. We need to just lose the next 10 so that pacer nation is demanding a rebuild by the deadline and we blow it up. Boom goes the dynamite.

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    Our franchise player 2-8.

    Diener won us this game.
    Well, in JO's defense he'd been doubled and triple teamed all night. Plus, he wasn't getting the ball in a position where he could make one quick move to the basket w/o needing to put the ball on the floor. Near the end of the 4Q, they started getting him the ball closer in towards the basket where he could do just that and he was more effective.

    When you've got 2-3 guys coming at you every time you touch the ball and you're getting fed the ball out of position, it's tough! He finally started kicking the ball out to the open man and they (Dun, Granger, Deiner, Rush, Williams) all started to knock a few of them down. Once that outside game got established from the kick-out and JO was fed the ball closer in where he could work better, he was able to score more effectively. So, I wouldn't put too much blame on JO's tonight. When it counted, he came through (from the line and with his defense!).

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    I think I need to post this in the Brichard's losing interest thread. I had no idea there was a game tonight. I just happened to be checking PD and got curious and hit the 'back' button to check the schedule and saw there was a 10 O clock game. This was at about 2+ hrs after tip off. I tuned in to see the final 9 secs.

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    I saw nothing from Jeff's time on the floor that would explain why he didn't come back in the game. I know the Kings wouldn't have double-teamed him like they did JO, but I'm not sure that explains it.
    That's exactly why we didn't see more of Foster out there. He's a great rebounder and defender, but he doesn't command double teams the way JO does.

    I like Foster tons, but when you're up against a quick team like the Kings and you really need for their defense to work harder, believe me when I say you don't want Foster out there for too long especially when he's up against a Center who can score and/or pass fairly well.

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    If you guys don't think JO played really well in the 4th Quarter than I'm guessing your prejudice is so far beyond reason that it's pointless for me to even try to post something that would make you realize how critical his play in the final period was to our victory tonight.

    (and, yes, I'm well aware of his shooting percentage. Missing shots doesn't equal playing bad.)
    Peace, JayRedd. Was thinking more in terms of Jeff's lack of minutes...JO drew a lot of doubles, important to our outside game, and made 8-10 FTs. I'm not criticizing him. Just kind of wondering if Jeff is going to get the short straw as (if) we keep going to small ball.
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    Oh great, we squeaked out a win against a depleted Kings squad...I'm jumping for joy....really, this doesn't do a thing torwards getting us into rebuild mode. We need to just lose the next 10 so that pacer nation is demanding a rebuild by the deadline and we blow it up. Boom goes the dynamite.
    Dude, um...why don't you just...go to sleep. It's late and you're obviously cranky. Night-night.

    I think perhaps the Pacers could build on this. I doubt they'll win both games against the Warriors, but I'm hopeful that they can. Maybe they've finally found a winning formula in going 1 Big, 4 "small" out there. We shall see over the next 8 games or so.

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    I don't get all the JO hate from the game tonight. The Pacers continued to dump it to him because Sac was quickly double teaming any time he touched the ball in the post. They applied some good pressure and forced him to turn it over more times than you would like, but overall he played a pretty quality game. Got to the line 10 times and dished out 5 assists. Isn't that the type of game that all you people whining about him want? Not to mention the fact he probably could have had 8+ assists if the open shots the double team was producing would have been hit.

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    Not to mention the fact he probably could have had 8+ assists if the open shots the double team was producing would have been hit.
    Shhhhh....We're pretending that didn't happen.

    You're supposed to be concentrating on the really important plays...like when he missed a 15-footer with 6 seconds left on the shot clock after we passed the ball around the perimeter for 18 seconds and then forced the ball into him after he had already lost all post position.

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    It is a tragedy, though, that Foster only got 2 minutes tonight.

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    I like how Rush has been quietly contributing for quite a stretch now.

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    Whoops, I thought that this game was Sunday night...Damn!
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    As I said in the game thread , that no one is posting in anymore, lol ... I wanted to say .. Dunleavy had a real nice game too.

    When Dun throws up 15 to 20 shots .. he has good games like this and scores at least 18 to 20+ points on 60% FG shooting .. ..
    But if you notice in games he seems quiet .. he only shoots 8 or 9 FG's .. like he isn't confident in his shot.....

    I think he is coming around in his confidence though and more agressive in looking for his shot..... plus , he has a good FG% anyways..

    I think we will see his point averages per game go up to around 19 PPG by the time the season is over...


    I really think we NEEDED this WIN .. to get the spark back in our players eyes ...
    I look for us to have a mostly winning road trip out West ... and go on a nice streak..

    As long as JOB stays with this lineup .. we WILL WIN...
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    I thought it was last night and that I'd missed it 'cause I was playing at some bar on the southside. I came to this forum to see who won and found out there was something for me to do tonight. It all worked out well for me. It is a shame Foster only played 2 minutes...is that even correct.

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    It is a shame Foster only played 2 minutes...is that even correct.
    Yeah...2:15. Won't complain about anything that ends in a win, but I do wonder how Jeff's floor time is going to fare with a small ball line-up. Not much of an offensive threat compared to JO and Murph (as someone else here pointed out), so he may be the odd man out as aften as not.
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    Why didn't Tinsley play in the second half?

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