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    "Houston, with Luis Scola coming on, won its first back-to-back set and had at least five players in double figures for the second straight game, both without Tracy McGrady. It's giving the team more reason to move McGrady, who is said to have quietly let it be known he's no longer happy in Houston. With the Rockets still in need of a point guard, you could see them working out a package that includes Hinrich and Andres Nocioni."

    He's as injury prone as J.O., and the salaries match.
    Would you make the trade?

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    I would. The deal makes a lot of sense for both sides. Houston needs a big man and Indiana needs a go-to scorer.

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    I would. The deal makes a lot of sense for both sides. Houston needs a big man and Indiana needs a go-to scorer.
    Man what does that say about Yao?

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    it says he needs some muscle next to him. The same could be said for JO.

    Ewing needed Oakley, Robinson needed Duncan, Parish Needed McHale, etc. It's not unheard of.

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    I'd do it. Not much to lose.

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    There might be an attendance burst if this trade went down.

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    Tmac may be injured but i think he still got a lot of game left in him when 100% healthy, more than what JO could give us given him being 100%
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    I'm not sure it would solve all of our problems, but I think we're deeper at the 4/5 we really have no starting caliber 2. This would of course make Rush unnecessary, and create a logjam again at the 3. Tmac may be a little more injury prone then J.O., and I'd think they have about equal trade value right now. They both have 2 years remaining on their contracts.
    I'd give the following lineup a go.
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    Won't their number one goal be to find a PG?

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    Isn't T-Mac retiring when he's thirty or something?

    That said, he's much better (and more clutch) than JO.

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    If I was sure T-Mac was going to be healthy and play past 30, hell, I'd probably do it.
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    Won't their number one goal be to find a PG?
    Well we could also include Jamaal as well.

    Something like:

    Indiana trades: Jermaine O'Neal + Jamaal Tinsley

    Houston trades: Tracy Mcgrady + Mike James (could also be Shane Battier) + Kirk Snyder (cap relief). If the Pacers are lucky, they might be able to snag a 1st round pick as well.
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    Man, what did i say in the other thread? we need a clutch player like Gordon. If we could snag T-mac that would be great.

    Just cant imagine him in a pacers uniform though.

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    Id do the trade, hell at this point id do just about any trade. we need to get this team moving in the right direction. Im not happy with an "about .500 team" or below...
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    This team needs an injury-prone shooting guard much more than it needs an injury-prone power forward/center consider our roster and our style. I'd do it. Actually, since they want a PG, this could be the franchise's chance to trade JO AND Tinsley to (potentially, in theory) pacify the whiners who are staying home because of those two while making a trade that might actually help the team. Give us Mike James and a pick for Tinsley (or whatever works that's similar) and swap JO for T-Mac.

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    Can someone give me some insight if Bird would actually seriously consider putting something on the table for T-Mac?

    Just as long as ive been going for the pacers (8 years) everytime there is a good player on the block, i never hear once Indiana pushing for him.

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    Well Walsh had interest in T-Mac back in the day. Don't know if he still does though.

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    This team needs an injury-prone shooting guard much more than it needs an injury-prone power forward/center consider our roster and our style. I'd do it. Actually, since they want a PG, this could be the franchise's chance to trade JO AND Tinsley to (potentially, in theory) pacify the whiners who are staying home because of those two while making a trade that might actually help the team. Give us Mike James and a pick for Tinsley (or whatever works that's similar) and swap JO for T-Mac.
    I'd do that.
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    Hey, maybe HOU will throw in the Aaron Brooks. He's pretty
    much the reincarnation of Dana Barros, O'B's old missle
    launcher from his early Celtic days.

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    This team needs an injury-prone shooting guard much more than it needs an injury-prone power forward/center consider our roster and our style. I'd do it. Actually, since they want a PG, this could be the franchise's chance to trade JO AND Tinsley to (potentially, in theory) pacify the whiners who are staying home because of those two while making a trade that might actually help the team. Give us Mike James and a pick for Tinsley (or whatever works that's similar) and swap JO for T-Mac.
    Someone get Larry on the phone. NOW. This is exactly what we need.

    It makes too much sense for both sides, and most importantly attendance. I guarantee that the fans would come flocking back to Conseco to see TMac every night. We would have someone who could actually get to the rim and the free throw line when he wanted to.

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    Mike James AND a pick for Jamaal Tinsley? Really? Good luck with that.
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    PG Mike James
    SG TMac
    SF DunDun
    PF Danny
    C Jeff / Hulk / Troy depending on the matchup

    Backups:
    PG Quisy / Owens
    SG Rush
    SF Shawne (he has got to start playing some D and get back in the rotation, we need his shooting)
    PF Ike
    C Jeff / Hulk / Troy

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    Mike James AND a pick for Jamaal Tinsley? Really? Good luck with that.
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    I'd trade JO and Tins for TMac and Mike James in a heartbeat.

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    Okay. Let's take a step back and really look at this trade proposal.

    The Pacers are already dealing with fluctuating lineups/rotations due to injuries. They've got JO in and out of the starting lineup because of his knee. And then there's Quis from the 2nd unit for the same reason. Add Foster and Harrison for their back spasms and that's four players with recurring injuries this team has to deal with. As good as T-Mac is - and believe me I'd love to have him on this team - why would you want to add one more player with a history of injuries to this roster even as short as that injury history might be?

    T-Mac sat out half of the '05-06 season w/back spasms and sat out the first 7 games or so to start the '06-07 w/the same problem. Now, he has tendinitis in his left knee and his return to Houston's lineup is still in question. Hadn't the Pacers gone through this before with Quis and JO last year? Think it through, folks.

    The other issue w/this trade proposal is you'd be trading away good interior defense for good perimeter offense. When was the last time T-Mac really shut anyone down? And with his tendinitis problem do you really think he'd improve this team's back court defensive woes? Once again, think it through.

    When he's on, T-Mac is about as good as it gets! There are probably only five or six good SGs/SFs out there who can create off the dribble AND are as clutch as he is: Kobe, AI, Dwade, LeBron and Melo to name who I believe are the top five. But the one difference between T-Mac and those five players is health not to mention they've all shown a willingness to play injured. I'm not too sure about T-Mac in that regard.

    If the Pacers were to go after T-Mac, IMO they'd be better off making a 2-for-1 trade involving Dunleavy and Deiner rather than giving up JO and fuller. Why?

    The Rockets need that perimeter scorer. Plus, with Steve Francis' availability also in question they need another PG. Deiner has shown he can run an offense and offords them another 3-pt threat. No, he hasn't been consistent from downtown, but he has shown he can find the bottom of the net from long range. Still, to me it's a huge gamble for the Pacers because they'd be giving up a player who hasn't missed a game since acquiring him, fits very well in JOB's offense and has shown he can score versus a player who although we all know can score has had some health issues recently.

    Bottom line here is T-Mac for JO just doesn't work for either team. T-Mac for Dunleavy w/Deiner could. It's a gamble, but it's probably one I'd do IF I had some assurance that this tendinitis issue wouldn't be a constant problem. JOB would probably have to "manage" it just as he's trying to manage Quis' knee injury by not playing him in too many back-to-back games or limiting his minutes. Still, by adding T-Mac to the mix he'd now have three key players with injury management issues to deal with. I just don't think it's worth it.
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